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Choice News SUNDAY, JUN 14, 2009  |  10 comments
Christian Man Raped, Murdered for Refusing to Convert to Islam
Note: The Fox News link gives graphic details.

The Rev. Haroon Bhatti, a Christian clergyman in the village and a friend of the Ghauri family, said Cheema's three brothers came to Litto Ghauri's house on May 11 and gave him an ultimatum: Marry their sister and convert to Islam.

Ghauri agreed to the marriage but refused to accept Islam, and the brothers kidnapped him at gunpoint and drove him to a remote farmhouse, where they tortured and murdered him, the minister said.

The Rev. Bhatti says that radical Muslims frequently try to trap Christian men into converting to Islam by using a woman as bait — and Ghauri suspects the involvement of his dead brother's girlfriend in trying to entrap him. ...


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News Item6/24/09 12:11 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
sandraj wrote:
The muslims may be moral people but morality saves nobody. These people do not believe in salvation in Jesus Christ so they are headed to the Lake of Fire regardless of how moral they are.
Amen. That's Right sandraj. This Does NOT Only Include The Over 1 Billion Mohammedans ("Muslims") Of The World, But This ALSO Includes The Over 1 Billion Roman Catholics Of The World: Not To Mention The Multiple Billions Of Other Spiritually LOST Religionists Of The World.

It's An Authorized Biblical FACT That Any & Every Religion Without The LORD Jesus Christ As The Only Means Of Salvation: Is Headed To The Eternal Lake Of Fire--Regardless Of How Moral They Are.

Or How Ethical They Are.

Or How Principled They Are.

Or How Cultured They Are.

Especially How Politically Correct They Are.

Or How "Compassionate" They Are.

Or How "Lovingly" They Are.

Or How "Joyful" They Are.

Or How "Peaceful" They Are.

Or How "Longsuffering" They Are.

Or How "Gentle" They Are.

Or How "Good" They Are.

Or How "Meek" They Are.

Or How "Faithful" They Are.

Or How "Temperate" They Are.

Eternal Spiritual Salvation Is Dependent On The LORD, God & Savior Jesus Christ; And Faith In The LORD, God & Savior Jesus Christ ALONE !

JOHN 3:16

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News Item6/21/09 9:13 PM
sandraj | east coast  Find all comments by sandraj
The muslims may be moral people but morality saves nobody. These people do not believe in salvation in Jesus Christ so they are headed to the Lake of Fire regardless of how moral they are.
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News Item6/16/09 11:38 PM
Walt | Michigan  Find all comments by Walt
Interesting:

"Eyewitness - One Guard Shot The Other At Holo Museum

CNN transcript - Witness says one guard shot another at Holo Museum, not von Brunn.

Black US Holocaust Museum Guard Shot by Security Guards? CNN LIVE FEED

HENRY: And then you saw some of the return fire from the security personnel?

MARIA: Yes, it hit the security man. I am not sure where, but he was flat on his back."

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16441034/-CNN-transcr-Witness-says-one-guard-shot-another-at-Holo-Museum-not-von-Brunn

Hmmm, I wonder why those people below are going so fast after white Christian men like you and me?

Is there more to this story? Why do they have to target us until we learn the facts of who/why this guy shot someone at the Jewish Holocaust Museum?

Where are the video cameras? Did the white Christian men come take them away? Release the videos before labeling me in your rant!!!

The place must be filled with video cameras that saw the entire thing.

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News Item6/15/09 10:18 PM
Walt | Michigan  Find all comments by Walt
Hi Maxwell,

Thanks for the information and link.

However, I believe the Muslims are a very moral people and hold many of the same Christian beliefs we do...yet, at one time I did not believe this to be true...due to my media bias.

I'm glad to see you worked in other countries as you too have a broad view beyond what the TV and news feed the typical American viewer.

My confidence in the American press has been slowly deteriorating with this sort of "reporting" hogwash:

"Today the vast majority of domestic terrorist attacks are in fact lone wolf or so-called leaderless resistance attacks," said the center's Mark Potok. "There are very few ways to prevent them ... short of assigning a police officer to every person in America."

The number of angry white men in America is getting larger, said Chip Berlet, senior analyst with Political Research Associates in Somerville, Mass., a think tank that studies right-wing extremists.

In particular, the heterosexual, white, Christian men in America feel they've been pushed out of the way, Berlet said. Attacking the Holocaust Museum is a no-brainer, he said, because white supremacists blame Jews for the advancement of black people."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090614/ap_on_go_ot/us_lone_wolf_terrorists

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News Item6/15/09 3:10 PM
Maxwell  Find all comments by Maxwell
Walt wrote:
I have little trust in what Fox News or any of the other major media reports about Islam and muslims. Over the past 10 years I have seen so much propaganda reported it makes me very concerned.
Walt, hello again long time no see on the board.

Yes Walt ALL societies have bad and good people that goes without saying. I have worked abroad as an 'expat' and Saudi Arabia was one of the places where I worked with various nationalities. We had a friend out there who was a Pakistani Christian with whom we shared brotherhood and prayer time. Boy did he have a story to tell about this very problem. Also whilst there he was billeted with the other Pakistanis - who were muslim. I can sadly tell you that they really made his life hell there.
Also there are other sites which you may refer to which are not just pure media. EG....
"Christian churches have been bombed in the last year, leaving no doubt that tensions remain high. Christians are routinely sought out and harassed, tortured, wrongly imprisoned and even put to death at the hands of Muslim extremist peers."

[URL=http://www.cswusa.com/Countries/Pakistan.htm]]]Link to site.[/URL]

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News Item6/14/09 7:54 PM
Walt | Michigan  Find all comments by Walt
I have little trust in what Fox News or any of the other major media reports about Islam and muslims. Over the past 10 years I have seen so much propaganda reported it makes me very concerned.

I've been working with some Islamic businesses and especially can assure you that their moral standards often exceed that of the Christians I've worked with in the past.

Certainly there are extremists in every religion, but what I read below is beyond what I have seen out of those who claim to be Muslims. I'm going to look for any independent verification of that event below in the coming weeks, and make sure there is not some sort of "political" event meant to rile up the Christians.

Don't get me wrong, I've studied (and more importantly continue to study) the various ages of extreme persecution and killing against Christians, but in this generation I take no major news station at face value ever! Read about Alexander Peden in Scotland during the ***killing times*** and know it was "Christians" slaughtering Christians.

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News Item6/14/09 3:56 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
This shouldn't come as a surprise, [URL=http://www.domini.org/openbook/unveiling_of_pakistan.htm]]]The Unveiling of Pakistan[/URL].

That great religious leader His Unholiness Benedict XVI made the mistake of telling the truth once, which of course he quickly retracted when he pointed out,

Emperor Manual II Paleologos of the Byzantine Empire wrote:
Show me just what [URL=http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm]]]Muhammad[/URL] brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.
or in other words, the [URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/Books/Barton/11.htm]]]Inadequacy of Islam[/URL].
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News Item6/14/09 1:05 PM
Archie  Find all comments by Archie
Mike wrote:
Hey Archie,
do you suppose God arranged and ordained that this too should come to pass?
Well God did plant the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

And matyrship is part of the divine plan.

But having said that God does not need to ordain sin in the Totally Depraved mortals, they have a sinful free will which can carry out transgressions all on their own.

But when it comes to doing something of a spiritual nature, free will is locked in the bondage of sin. Now that is one thing they cannot do!

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News Item6/14/09 11:35 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Archie. wrote:
"They don't want to meet us, and the three of them who are murderers are outside," Salman Nabil Ghauri told FOXNews.com. "They are free. Nothing is happening to them. No investigation is running.""
NO Justice for the Christians in Pakistan.
The Muslims are the only people who get justice because they run the justice system and everything else.
Western nations are currying favour with all these nations and with their satanic religions. Today we find in western countries that they set up their idolatrous temples and gradually bring in their anti-christian philosophies. Thus the seed is planted and Satan is in charge. He will not stop there.
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Hey Archie,
do you suppose God arranged and ordained that this too should come to pass?
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News Item6/14/09 10:45 AM
Archie.  Find all comments by Archie.
"the Atta Shaheed police station in their small village, Adda 44SB. But Ghauri's brother said police still have not arrested the alleged killers and have refused to meet with his family.
"They don't want to meet us, and the three of them who are murderers are outside," Salman Nabil Ghauri told FOXNews.com. "They are free. Nothing is happening to them. No investigation is running.""

NO Justice for the Christians in Pakistan.
The Muslims are the only people who get justice because they run the justice system and everything else.

Western nations are currying favour with all these nations and with their satanic religions. Today we find in western countries that they set up their idolatrous temples and gradually bring in their anti-christian philosophies. Thus the seed is planted and Satan is in charge. He will not stop there. The weak liberal attitudes of our politicians and bureaucrats allow these evil seeds to be planted, nay even encourage them, the end result is persecution for the Christians.
May God be with us all!

10 Thou makest us to turn back from the enemy: and they which hate us spoil for themselves.
11 Thou hast given us like sheep appointed for meat; and hast scattered us among the heathen.
12 Thou sellest thy people for nought, and dost not increase thy

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