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FRONT PAGE  |  8/21/2019
Choice News WEDNESDAY, JUN 3, 2009  |  25 comments  |  1 commentary
Evangelicals frustrated by Obama's 'Gay Pride' decree
President Obama Monday named June as "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month" issuing a proclamation that goes even further than those of former President Clinton in its pro-homosexuality slant.

Evangelicals voiced strong disagreement with Obama's proclamation, much like they did in 1999 when Clinton issued his proclamation and Southern Baptist Convention messengers responded by passing a resolution rebuking Clinton for doing so.

"For a president who pledged to bring us together, Mr. Obama persists in doing the exact opposite on all things homosexual," Bob Stith, the Southern Baptist national strategist for gender issues and representative of the denomination's Task Force on Ministry to Homosexuals, told Baptist Press. "This issue for most evangelical Christians is not bias or prejudice. It is simply maintaining the freedom to speak the truth about Scripture. It is one thing to be ...


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News Item6/11/09 6:05 PM
Pastor Andrew Webb | Fayetteville, North Carolina  Protected NameFind all comments by Pastor Andrew Webb
I recently touched on the subject of President Obama's LGBT pride month declaration in the context of a sermon on the biblical view of "cross-dressing" and gender bending.

[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=611091552260]]]No, Cross Dressing is Not OK[/URL]

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News Item6/10/09 1:21 PM
Agnes | Kentucky  Find all comments by Agnes
I personally believe that there are many sheep without earthly shepherds but always guided by the Holy Spirit into all truth. Jesus said, "My sheep hear my voice". Praise God it is that way because not many of us are theologians or exegetes of scripture.
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News Item6/8/09 2:04 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Candle Lit wrote:
That's right, Mike, but they CAN be led into heresy by false teachers, and those who are not yet saved can be confused with the teaching of the charlatans!
Are the saved that are led into heresy lost?
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News Item6/8/09 12:03 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Jack / Brooklyn, NY ---

.
Candle Lit

From the article:
"The LGBT rights movement has achieved great progress, but there is more work to be done," Obama's proclamation reads. "During LGBT Pride Month, I call upon the LGBT community, the Congress, and the American people to work together to promote equal rights for all, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity. NOW, THEREFORE, I, BARACK OBAMA, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim June 2009 as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride Month."

Blah, Blah, Blah ...

So what is your position RE: Obama's 'Gay Pride' decree ??? ---
Is your answer for us to just join the Hell-bent party ??? ... ... I think not !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK

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News Item6/8/09 11:34 AM
Candle Lit  Find all comments by Candle Lit
Garry Curley wrote:
Every man is not my brother in the flesh?
Was your father Adam in the Garden, or did you evolve from ape or the primordial mass?

Every son of the flesh was in Adam. The son of your father is your brother.

And, if you are really interested in what Scripture says about "law and mercy" do a search of your own. I am well aware of your friend *HYH*'s tactic, and you are using the same. Yours is just a game, with no serious intent to find truth. If you really wanted truth, you would search it out, and not ask an unknown person in another country to give you the answer.

You are disingenuous in asking the question. So, there is no reason for me to indulge your question with a response. But, I might suggest that you look at the intent of the law when you do your search. Jesus railed against the Pharisees for "straining at a gnat, and swallowing a camel." I would keep that in mind while I busied myself in a search for the principles delineated in Scripture.

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News Item6/8/09 11:29 AM
Jack | Brooklyn, NY  Find all comments by Jack
Dear Brothers and Sisters on Sermon Audio,
This article made me feel very sad. I am sad that such a false view of human sexuality and a false view of equality and a false view of compassion has been put into play and honored by the President. I have been reading the Book of Jeremiah with my family, and we see that idolatry and repudiation of God is a terrible sin. Unfortunately we are on a downwasrd spiral. The downward spiral will have consequences. Believe me, I don't want to suffer the dreadful consequences that such unrighteous leadership brings on a nation. However, as we pray daily, "Thy will be done...." Our preacher yesterday preached on TULIP and honored John Calvin on his upcoming 500th birthday. I was SO encouraged by that Word, and I hope and pray that all of you will likewise be encouraged in your hearts and souls as you contemplate God's sovereignty, justice, and love (a love based on eternal values originating in the Godhead).
Bless you all.
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News Item6/8/09 11:13 AM
Garry Curley | Sydney Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Garry Curley
Please give me scripture for 'truth without mercy is the law?'.Ephesians 2 v8&9,'For it is by grace you have been saved through faith,and that not of yourselves it is the gift of God.Not of works lest any man should boast'.
Every man is not my brother in the flesh?

Candle Lit wrote:
Truth without mercy is the Law. Is that what you want? Because apart from Jesus Christ, you will be judge according to the Law.
You've heard of the "good Samaritan?" Jesus told the parable of a man who had been beaten and robbed and was lying in the road, nearly dead. While, the Pharisee, the religious leader, passed by the man, and did not help, nor did his countryman, it was the stranger, the one who had no reason to help, other than a heart of compassion that constrained him to rescue the man. You sound like the Pharisee. There is a stern warning from the Lord, "Woe unto you scribes and hypocrits, white-washed sepulchres, full of dead men's bones."
Take heed! Every man is your brother in the flesh. Born again believers are brothers of a divine nature and are inheritors of a spiritual kingdom along with Jesus Christ. You do not sound like you are yet a born again believer.
REPENT and BELIEVE on the LORD Jesus Christ, and be saved
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News Item6/8/09 11:13 AM
Candle Lit  Find all comments by Candle Lit
Mike wrote:
Not to worry, Candle Lit, God protects his own, and they can't lose their salvation, right?
That's right, Mike, but they CAN be led into heresy by false teachers, and those who are not yet saved can be confused with the teaching of the charlatans! The Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses indoctrinated my sister with their false teaching.

Over and over, we are told to "be not deceived by false teachers" and to beware of false brethren, who god is their belly. Jude says, "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever."

Well, these of whom Jude speaks are alive and kicking on the SA boards. !!!

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News Item6/8/09 11:03 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Candle Lit wrote:
This is yet another attempt to incite hatred against gays and muslims from a Christian site, by those who are anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-establishment.
It is a subversive tactic to "divide and conquer!"
True Christians will NOT be provoked to hatred against other people. Love is what marks us out as "true."
Reader, beware Those who comment on these boards are subject to suspicion as to their agenda.
Satan was a "murderer" from the beginning, and all who would incite hatred toward any person or group of people is suspect of who their father is. Jesus said that Satan was the "father" of the Pharisees. He also said, "if you hate your brother, you are a murderer."
Reader, beware of those who post on these boards
Not to worry, Candle Lit, God protects his own, and they can't lose their salvation, right?
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News Item6/8/09 10:39 AM
Candle Lit  Find all comments by Candle Lit
Garry Curley wrote:
Truth is what marks a true Christian.Love is the fruit of that truth.
A muslim man is not my brother.A Christian is my brother.The Gospel truth is what the muslim needs too hear as the gay man.Scripture is truth.
Garry Curley.
Truth without mercy is the Law. Is that what you want? Because apart from Jesus Christ, you will be judge according to the Law.

You've heard of the "good Samaritan?" Jesus told the parable of a man who had been beaten and robbed and was lying in the road, nearly dead. While, the Pharisee, the religious leader, passed by the man, and did not help, nor did his countryman, it was the stranger, the one who had no reason to help, other than a heart of compassion that constrained him to rescue the man. You sound like the Pharisee. There is a stern warning from the Lord, "Woe unto you scribes and hypocrits, white-washed sepulchres, full of dead men's bones."

Take heed! Every man is your brother in the flesh. Born again believers are brothers of a divine nature and are inheritors of a spiritual kingdom along with Jesus Christ. You do not sound like you are yet a born again believer.

REPENT and BELIEVE on the LORD Jesus Christ, and be saved

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News Item6/8/09 10:16 AM
Garry Curley | Sydney Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Garry Curley
Candle Lit wrote:
This is yet another attempt to incite hatred against gays and muslims from a Christian site, by those who are anti-Christian, anti-American, anti-establishment.
It is a subversive tactic to "divide and conquer!"
True Christians will NOT be provoked to hatred against other people. Love is what marks us out as "true."
Reader, beware Those who comment on these boards are subject to suspicion as to their agenda.
Satan was a "murderer" from the beginning, and all who would incite hatred toward any person or group of people is suspect of who their father is. Jesus said that Satan was the "father" of the Pharisees. He also said, "if you hate your brother, you are a murderer."
Reader, beware of those who post on these boards
Truth is what marks a true Christian.Love is the fruit of that truth.
A muslim man is not my brother.A Christian is my brother.The Gospel truth is what the muslim needs too hear as the gay man.Scripture is truth.
Garry Curley.
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News Item6/8/09 9:11 AM
Garry Curley | Sydney Australia  Contact via emailFind all comments by Garry Curley
This does not surprise us here in Australia.Mr Barak Hussien Obama, the so called Christian president.Defender of gays and muslims,the real turncoat president.
In Christ,
Garry Curley.
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News Item6/6/09 2:54 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
If "We" don't WAKE UP it's gonna get Hellishly bad around here !!!

If the Founding Fathers would have been as perversely "ReLiGiOuS" as men are today America would have fallen long ago --- or more than likely America wouldn't exist under the Constitution the Founders drafted for a GOD FEARING, FREEDOM LOVING people !!!

FREEDOM doesn’t mean people are free to do anything they want !!! --- With TRUE FREEDOM there comes GREAT RESPONSIBILITIES --- this is where "ReLiGiOn" that grovels at the alter of DAMNABLE 501c3 CONFORMISM HAS ..F A I L E D.. !!!

America is infected with every form of perversion and that includes perverted 501c3 VOICELESS "ReLiGiOn" that refuses to STAND IN THE GAP.

WaTeReD DoWn ‚ÄúReLiGiOn‚ÄĚ is like a disease --- tHeY feed on the Church, but when tHey should be ‚ÄúSTANDING‚ÄĚ FOR GOD AND COUNTRY, in order to FORTIFY America‚Äôs Social Fabric, tHeY just hide ThEiR 501c3 hEaDs averting ThEiR eyes from the reality of ThEiR "DUTY" as American citizens in the here and now !!! ....

It's time for GODLY Men TO WAKE UP --- "We" have had enough of this DAMNABLE VOICELESSNESS !!!

Men must CHOOSE what it is they TRULY STAND FOR --- FREEDOM WEIGHS IN THE BALANCE and time is running out !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK

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News Item6/4/09 3:03 PM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from KY
Because jj, I'm sure a lot of people on this post as well as many Christians across this fair land have built mega-churches with hugh monthly bills that have to be paid. If they talk about 501c3's and the like they will be talking about themselves!!! If they make parishioners mad than that's less people in the seats and less money in the coffers.
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News Item6/4/09 1:37 PM
jj  Find all comments by jj
Why don't you all want to talk about your 501c3?
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News Item6/4/09 10:53 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Aydrian wrote:
I'm proud of President Obama. Equality under the law is the foundation of this country. The separation of church and state has been a rule of law since written by Thomas Jefferson in 1801 in the Danbury letter.
You equality pushers ought to understand what you are talking about, but as usual you miss the boat. Note the first paragraph:

"President Obama Monday named June as "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Pride Month" issuing a proclamation that goes even further than those of former President Clinton in its pro-homosexuality slant."

Tell me, how is it equality to promote a particular lifestyle, even to proclaiming a time period in which particularly destructive lifestyles are honored over other lifestyles? Has there ever been a "Straight, Healthy Lifestyle Month" proclamation?

btw, you surely must know Jefferson's letter is not a legal document, even if you are not understanding what it actually says.

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News Item6/4/09 9:21 AM
Overcomer | USA  Find all comments by Overcomer
My "frustration" lies with the pastors of this nation who will not preach against sin. Bad theology, produces bad results.

It's wheat and chaff time! And I'm not talking about a "rapture"

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News Item6/4/09 7:38 AM
BILL W | West Virginia  Contact via emailFind all comments by BILL W
Frank Dombrosky wrote:
What we need are men of God who will thunder out the Word of God from pulpits across America instead of these celebrities trying to win popularity contests! The prophets and apostles were not "frustrated" because they preached the truth and knew the power of God for doing so. The moral corruption in this country can be traced to silent pulpits. Thank God for those faithful few that remain.
AMEN BROTHER
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News Item6/4/09 3:53 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Aydrian,

Gross immorality will always be outlawed in any society that wishes to be guided by Biblical principles. Your all-permissive equality would of course include lawlessness.
As Mark Levin, in his book, "Men In Black", states, until Justice Hugo Black revived it in 1947, separation of church and state was an obscure metaphor.
This had nothing to do with the first amendment and incidentally Jefferson was not even around at the time as he was over in Europe.
Quoting Mark Levin, "Men In Black":
"Interestingly, two days after writing to the Danbury Baptists, Jefferson attended church services held in the House of Representatives and continued as a regular attendant throughout his presidency."

JOHN 3:36

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News Item6/3/09 11:19 PM
Aydrian | Denver  Find all comments by Aydrian
I'm proud of President Obama. Equality under the law is the foundation of this country. The separation of church and state has been a rule of law since written by Thomas Jefferson in 1801 in the Danbury letter.
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