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FRONT PAGE  |  8/17/2019
THURSDAY, APR 16, 2009  |  30 comments
Most Americans OK with Big Government, at least for now
WASHINGTON — Most Americans say they're glad Big Government is back to help through hard times. But they aren't sure they want it to stay.

Although an expansive federal government hasn't had a defender in the White House for nearly a half-century — since Lyndon Johnson and his Great Society program — most Americans in a nationwide USA TODAY/Gallup Poll approve of President Obama and the government's latest assertiveness. However, some of the steps he has ordered have made them wary.

By 3-to-1, those surveyed say government's expansion should be cut back when the economic crisis is over. ...


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News Item4/21/09 4:27 PM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Barry from KY,
Except for standing alongside the Democratic Socialists, I not really sure what you believe.

Recovery? This country has been on the downward slide for the last 70 years of socialist entitlements and deficit spending.

Diplomacy???

Sorry, but 1994 had a DIVIDED governmental power.

Bigger is better.
Socialist go-getter.

Arise, Oh, sleeper.(America at large)
We're now in deeper.

Spending overflowing.
Deficits ever growing.

Freely they spend.
Freedoms they rend.

The populous relax.
The socialists tax.

Another budget blew.
Sh,h... we'll take it from you.

Government large.
Government at-large.

Government oppression.
Governed depression.

Peoples choice.
Lamentable voice.(Prov. 29:2)

The people sleep.(Christians help Obama)
The people reap.

Get, get, get!(Prov. 30:15a)
Debt, debt, debt!

One-world coming.
To anti-christ a running.

Get right with God.
Evil runs roughshod.

Government the spender.
You and I the lender.

Nothing returned.
You and I burned.

No give - all take.
Retired - now awake.

Voter - what have we learned?
God's Law have we spurned.

Day of reckoning has arrived.
Future generations deprived.

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News Item4/21/09 7:13 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from KY
I believe that savedbygrace, and remember the republicans took over both houses of congress in 1994.

No hard feelings I hope. I won't post on this again. It stirs too many feelings. I just pray the country recovers. There is evidence that it has started already. And thru diplomacy as opposed to sabre rattling we are gaining more respect around the world!!!

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News Item4/20/09 1:40 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Answer: Precious metal is but one option; don't keep all your eggs in one basket. [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullion_coins]]]Bullion Coins[/URL] are sold by specialist dealers like Blanchard, for example.

The Canadian Maple Leaf is the purest, which means it should not be handled much.

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News Item4/20/09 1:27 PM
prince charles | wales  Find all comments by prince charles
if people have savings should they buy gold ?

if so how do you do that ?

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News Item4/20/09 1:12 PM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Barry from Ky,

Pres. Clinton, increased the deficit every year he was in office.

Do some impartial investigating such as the info. at the U.S. Treasury Direct site.

National Debt in trillions at the end of each Clinton Budget:

Fiscal Year. 1993 4.411488
1994 4.692749
1995 4.973982
1996 5.224810
1997 5.413146
1998 5.526193
1999 5.656270
2000 5.674178
2001 5.807463

There are two parts to our governments debt. Consistent to character, Clinton deceptively told the citizenry that he was bringing down the deficit. While the Public Debt came down some, he also forgot to mention that the Intergovernmental Holdings went up. He payed down the public debt by BORROWING far more in Gov. Holdings, INCREASING THE DEFICIT.

We would have been doomed on a quicker scale if it was not for the checks of the Con. with Amer.

You may not be cognizant of this fact but Pres. Clinton, was known by the infamous name of, "Million Dollar Bill", after his stints as Gov. in Arkansas before his presidency.
Deficit spending has brought us to where we are.

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News Item4/20/09 12:41 PM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from KY
I understand savedbygrace, it's all fuzzy math i'm sure. We had a 1 term republican govenor in KY that said he had successfully balanced the state budget. Within 4 months all the departments were running in the red because he had severly under-funded everything to "balance the budget". Who knows what to really believe. I know that people around me really struggled during Regan and Bush. We all seemed to have prospered during President Clinton, and know here we are struggling again!!!! People ultimatly vote their pocketbooks....
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News Item4/20/09 12:19 PM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Barry from Ky,

Another major thing you are missing(because of Clinton's lies)is that he DID NOT give President Bush a surplus.

Pres. Clinton, NEVER had a surplus while in office. He ALWAYS had a deficit.

The only reason it seemed to be better than it actually was is because he was kept in check by the Con. with Amer. and also was not able to put into play many of his deficit increasing entitlements.

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News Item4/20/09 12:14 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Barry from KY wrote:
Mike, i do remember the contract with America. If i remember right they didn't fulfill serveral of the points. They also fought President Clinton most of the way. I just don't believe in the republican way, bro. I don't think giving all the tax cuts to the rich and hoping it trickles to the rest of us works. I don't like congress filled with republicans or democrats but if feel it takes a good mix. too much power corrupts every time. I still see hope in our economy. I'm sure that you will give no credit to President Obama or the dems. and thats okay. I just know i feel more comfortable with the way things are.
No problem, Barry. We all see what we see. I just fear we are going down a road no one will be happy about when we get there, wherever there is. As for "tax cuts to the rich," that sounds like a standard Democrat talking point. Considering that the rich pay most of the taxes already, they ought to benefit most by tax cuts, to be fair, don't you think? After all, the top 5% of income earners pay 60% of the taxes, while the bottom 50% of income earners pay a mere 3%. And many of them pay no taxes at all. Yet Obama wants to fund his big ideas by taxing the ones who actually make jobs even more?
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News Item4/20/09 10:10 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from KY
Mike, i do remember the contract with America. If i remember right they didn't fulfill serveral of the points. They also fought President Clinton most of the way. I just don't believe in the republican way, bro. I don't think giving all the tax cuts to the rich and hoping it trickles to the rest of us works. I don't like congress filled with republicans or democrats but if feel it takes a good mix. too much power corrupts every time. I still see hope in our economy. I'm sure that you will give no credit to President Obama or the dems. and thats okay. I just know i feel more comfortable with the way things are.
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News Item4/20/09 9:35 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Barry from KY wrote:
One thing you missed savedbygrace is the surplus we amassed during the 90's under Bill Clinton. Wall Street economists as well as Alan Greenspan, have attributed the growth that occured in the 90's to President Clinton's economic policies. In all the years that the democrats have run the government, we NEVER see dire economic times such as what we are in right now. I think that we are all going to just have to agree to disagree. i don't approve of all President Obama and the dems do. But, I feel much safer and more secure both financially and militarily with them in charge. And i'm happy to see diplomacy working around the world again. Sabre rattling hasn't gotten us that far and has cost us much!!!! sorry for the longer post.
You need to look up who was dominant in Congress during the Clinton years. Remember the "Contract with America"?
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News Item4/20/09 8:10 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from KY
One thing you missed savedbygrace is the surplus we amassed during the 90's under Bill Clinton. Wall Street economists as well as Alan Greenspan, have attributed the growth that occured in the 90's to President Clinton's economic policies. In all the years that the democrats have run the government, we NEVER see dire economic times such as what we are in right now. I think that we are all going to just have to agree to disagree. i don't approve of all President Obama and the dems do. But, I feel much safer and more secure both financially and militarily with them in charge. And i'm happy to see diplomacy working around the world again. Sabre rattling hasn't gotten us that far and has cost us much!!!! sorry for the longer post.
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News Item4/20/09 2:17 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Barry from KY,

Congress makes laws and has been impinging on the founders sep. of powers, especially with the Budget Control Act of 1975.

The U.S. has experienced Democratic control of the House from, 1954-1995
(41 YEARS!)

Only four Presidents have had undivided control of the country with BOTH CHAMBERS aligned with their party:
F. Rooselvelt - 12 of 12 years.
J. Kennedy - 3 of 3 years.
L. Johnson - 5 of 5 years.
J. Carter - 4 of 4 years.
B. Obama - ? of ? years.
(As you can see - ALL DEMOCRATS)

Roosevelt's "New Error", employed government intervention and as a result his first year ended with a budget deficit of almost 6 times greater than Hoover's last year.

Kennedy employed Keynesian economics and increased spending.

Johnson's "Great Society" increased the public debt and burden on the taxpayers.

Carter's term is all too vivid and produced stagflation.

Since the F.Roosevelt era, and his beginnings of entitlements, our country
has been on a collision course with its constant rise of deficit spending. And the liberal socialists have been in control.

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News Item4/19/09 8:55 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Barry from KY wrote:
savedbygrace, i really like your name. i realize who has been in power for the last 60 years. History also shows the two worst economic times in the last 100 years followed a republican term. people vote their pocketbook. Trickle down economics NEVER works.
Trickle down economics never works. Probably true. We'll find out when this administration's trickle down inflation arrives on the doorstep. Too bad it has to come to that. "Change we can believe in." We'll find dollars are another matter.
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News Item4/19/09 7:59 AM
Barry from KY | Northern KY  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from KY
savedbygrace, i really like your name. i realize who has been in power for the last 60 years. History also shows the two worst economic times in the last 100 years followed a republican term. people vote their pocketbook. Trickle down economics NEVER works.
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News Item4/18/09 4:48 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Barry from Ky.,

Our government has been increasing the deficit for a very long time. As for party affiliation - you might want to look up our political history and see who has been in CONTROL OF CONGRESS for the last fifty years of this entitlement waste.

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News Item4/17/09 5:47 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
“We” are in DEEP TROUBLE !!! – The value of “Our” Currency has fallen approximately 45% (+ or –) over the past 7 or 8 years – this is all attributable to “Our” massive DEBT and any old way you shake and bake it “We” CANNOT continue on this path of SPEND, SPEND, SPENDING MONEY “We” DON’T HAVE !!!

Obama is one BIG “SPENDTHRIFT”– his answer to everything is “SPEND”– and to be fair and balanced in this assessment, let it be known that all those monkeys “We” have hanging around up there in Washington ARE CULPABLE TOO – THE MISMANAGEMENT OF “Our” GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROBLEM FOR .. " M A N Y " .. YEARS – “We” JUST KEEP GOING FROM WORSE, TO WORSE, TO
W O R S E ... !!!

America’s debt is somewhere between $69 to $72 TRILLION, but according to a report ("The Federal Government's Financial Health") put out by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, issued in March 2009, THINGS AREN’T LOOKING GOOD FOR AMERICA. – The report shows “We” are ruining America for posterity … “Our” children’s children and beyond will be sunk with “Our” GROSS MISMANAGEMENT TODAY !!! – THAT REPORT SHOWS A GRAPH DEPICTING AMERICA’S NATIONAL PUBLIC DEBT @ 650% of GDP by 2080 !!!

………………… E N O U G H .. I S .. E N O U G H .. !!!

“We” BEST WAKE UP QUICK AND REPENT !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

KK

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News Item4/17/09 4:55 PM
Connie Spiracy | southeast usa  Find all comments by Connie Spiracy
Mr. Obama is a pro-baby-killing, socialist, police-state-building, terrorist-friendly (I am thinking of Bill Ayers), hypocrit (I am thinking of his "great swelling words" about transparency in government, yet he pushed through trillion dollar stimulus legislation that no congressman even had time to read, and much of this money was political payoffs to his contributors such as Goldman-Sachs), fascist (he now presumes to run General Motors), Kenyan. He spits in the face of every American citizen. But, lest you think I am racist, I admit that Mr. O'B is only one nanounit worse than his predecessor Bush. Listen to Radio Liberty with Dr. Stan Monteith if you want the truth.
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News Item4/17/09 2:58 PM
Parly Squak  Find all comments by Parly Squak
Shannon wrote:
How can you say this!? If the rich white guys who run wall st hadnt been so greedy we would not have all these problems!!!! i'm glad that we FINALLY have a president who cares and is really doing what is necessary to fix the HUGE MESS BUSH LEFT!!!! if it wasnt for Barack and the democrats we would all be out of work right now
The real problem today in all western countries is that the dangerous philosophy (political or otherwise) of Liberalism is destroying ALL authority whether governance, moral or judicial. (Oh and ecclesiastical).
The new Administration in America is blatantly Liberal and will only contribute further to the decline in these areas of society.
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News Item4/17/09 12:39 PM
San Jose John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by San Jose John
Neil wrote:
Folks who heap blame on Presidents for economic problems seem to forget that it is Congress which composes legislation; the Prez may lobby for this or that part, but he ultimately can only sign the measure, or veto it.
It is mainly the slippery matter of Executive Orders that gives credence to the idea that he is an all-powerful dictator.
Amen to that.

So many on the left see the prosperity of the 90's as a Bill Clinton thing while conveniently forgetting that a CONSERVATIVE congress was the dominant legislative power for 6 of Clinton's 8 years in office.

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News Item4/17/09 12:33 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Folks who heap blame on Presidents for economic problems seem to forget that it is Congress which composes legislation; the Prez may lobby for this or that part, but he ultimately can only sign the measure, or veto it.

It is mainly the slippery matter of Executive Orders that gives credence to the idea that he is an all-powerful dictator. There has been debate since the beginning over the scope of this discretionary power, since the Constitution isn't very specific about it.

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