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Choice News SUNDAY, MAR 8, 2009  |  86 comments
David Wilkerson predicts imminent catastrophe


David Wilkerson

A respected pastor, best-selling author and founder of a major ministry to teens predicts an imminent "earth-shattering calamity" centered in New York City that will spread to major urban areas across the country and around the world – part of what he sees as a judgment from God.

"An earth-shattering calamity is about to happen," he writes. "It is going to be so frightening, we are all going to tremble – even the godliest among us."

Wilkerson's vision is of fires raging through New York City.

"It will engulf the whole megaplex, including areas of New Jersey and Connecticut. Major cities all across America will experience riots and blazing fires – such as we saw in Watts, Los Angeles, years ago," he explains. "There will be riots and fires in cities worldwide. There will be looting – including Times Square, New York City. What we are experiencing now is not a recession, not even a ...


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News Item12/2/15 7:19 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I see I might as well correct one URL, which I sometimes have correct and other times not. I'm not quite sure how I do it considering on my oldest and most ancient listing for it - - at least the format for it was wrong. It is an excellent article by John MacArthur on, [URL=http://articles.ochristian.com/article2180.shtml]]]Proper Biblical Interpretation[/URL] This is an excellent, if somewhat long article.
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News Item1/6/12 12:06 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Tony Cisneros, have you ever looked over the definition of [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism]]]Pentecostalism[/URL]from this Wikipedia article we get:

Wikipedia on Pentecostalism wrote:
Pentecostalism ... places special emphasis on a direct personal experience of God through the baptism in the Holy Spirit, has an eschatological focus, and is an experiential religion
What John MacArthur had to say about the above, [URL=http://www.ondoctrine.com/2mac0076.htm]]]Are Experiences a Valid Form of Truth?[/URL] and [URL=http://www.ondoctrine.com/2mac0077.htm]]]Proper Biblical Interpretation[/URL]. What Gil Rugh said in sermon about[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=21304175924]]]Theology of Experience vs. Scripture[/URL].

I have a hard time believing a Baptist Church such as yours 1st Baptist of Hammond, would teach such a thing I know [URL=http://cfc-church.net/]]]Christian Fellowship Church[/URL] wouldn't.

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News Item6/2/09 6:48 AM
radiodce | NY  Find all comments by radiodce
Harold Camping is in error. Here is a link comparing his teachings directly with that of the Bible:
[URL=http://www.redeemerbroadcasting.org/pages/pages.php?id=34]]]http://www.redeemerbroadcasting.org/pages/pages.ph..[/URL]
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News Item3/25/09 11:36 AM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
"Thumbsup" said "Alberto not a jesuit"

Ofcourse Dr./Br. Alberto Rivera-Romero is Not PRESENTLY a "Jesuit"--Albeit, He was A FORMER Satanic-Vaticanist & Roman "Catholic" Cultic "Jesuit" Priest Under The Extreme Oath Of Induction !

Dr. Alberto Rivera was INDEED A Former Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuit" Bible-Protestant-Church Supplanter, Who Revealed to ALL The "Jesuits'" Plan of A ONE-WORLD & NEW WORLD ORDER !

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News Item3/20/09 5:30 PM
Thumbsup  Find all comments by Thumbsup
[URL=http://www.iconbusters.com/iconbusters/htm/false_prophets/Alberto%20Rivera.pdf]]]Alberto not a jesuit[/URL]

'It was Dr. Alberto Rivera, The Former Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuit" Bible-Protestant-Church Supplanter, Who Revealed To ALL '

The above quote-now that IS CRACKERS

Check out the truth in the above link

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News Item3/20/09 3:23 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisnenros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisnenros
To ALL Those who post on these sermonaudio threads who Wrongfully Indict ALL Pentecostals as being Charismatics & Ecumenists--I myself suspect such posters as being THEMSELVES in "cahoots" with The Satanic-Vatican & Her Ecumenical Movement: In Attempting To DESTROY The Anti-Satanic-Vatican/Roman-"Catholic Policies Found in Historic Holiness-Methodistic-Pentecostalism !

It was Dr. Alberto Rivera, The Former Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuit" Bible-Protestant-Church Supplanter, Who Revealed To ALL That It Was The PENTECOSTALS & Protestant PENTECOSTAL Churches that The Satanic-Vatican Could NOT and FAILED To TOTALLY SUCCESSFULLY Infiltrate in The 20s-90s !

Alberto made it VERY Clear That The Satanic-Vatican "Jesuits" had ALREADY Sucessfully Infiltrated EVERY MAJOR Protestant Church or Denomination--Let Alone Every MAJOR WORLD RELIGION & POLITICAL PARTY:

With The Exception of The MAJOR FUNDAMENTALIST & BIBLICAL-LITERALIST Protestant Denominations like The Free Presbyterian Church, The Independent-Fundamental Churches/Denominations; Especially The STRICTLY Autonomous Independent-Fundamental Baptist & Pentecostal Churches !

Alberto ALSO Spoke of "Jesuit" Plans to DESTROY The 400-yr PREEMMINANCE of THE ENGLISH KING JAMES BIBLE & ALL OTHER TEXTUS-RECEPTUS BASED BIBLE TRANSLATIONS !

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News Item3/18/09 2:19 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Tony, you made some good points, and what I remember of history I believe what you say about the history is correct. However, so what about human empires crumbling, it is hardly a prediction of what is a truism.

Job 12
23 He increaseth the nations, and he destroyeth them: He enlargeth the nations, and he leadeth them captive.
24 He taketh away understanding from the chiefs of the people of the earth, And causeth them to wander in a wilderness where there is no way.
25 They grope in the dark without light; And he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man.
Isaiah 60
22 The little one shall become a thousand, and the small one a strong nation; I, Jehovah, will hasten it in its time.

Again, I have to point out the article on [URL=http://www.ihcc.org/misc_pdf/eschatology.pdf]]]Eschatology[/URL] and all the articles starting with [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/CHAOS1.HTM]]]Charismatic Chaos - Part 1[/URL].

I listen to part of a sermon that Dave Wilkerson son gave on the Internet, that many will be saved, so twisting doctrine to suit their tastes, is wrong. [URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=92206122515]]]Principles of Bible Interpretation[/URL] seems like something that father and son ignore to suit their purposes.

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News Item3/17/09 11:44 PM
Another Jeff | Oregon  Find all comments by Another Jeff
I read Wilkerson's book called "The Vision" over 20 something years ago. When he blew the Y2K "disaster" prediction, I quit listening.

Never the less, I still have an ear open and find myself watching in probably too many places.
The sermon I am linking to, really helped me remember something very important about who our Foundation is, and I hope you can take a few minutes to listen to it.
Pastor Joseph LoSardo
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1123082050185

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News Item3/17/09 9:21 PM
A Single Tree in the forest  Find all comments by A  Single Tree in the forest
Olooker....i have said nothing about Wilkerson...if asked i would say that he is in error so that concludes that matter..Now we will move and answer your questio re;FIRE....ver 7 & 10

And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned

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News Item3/17/09 9:00 PM
onlooker  Find all comments by onlooker
tree- The article pertains to wilkerson, please, try to stay on topic! You defend camping and wilkerson, yet, can you prove their teachings and prophesies have come to pass? Did you even listen to the sermon recommendations by takeheed?
Let's try and keep it on track, since the article is concerning wilkerson. {although camping is from the same mold}
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News Item3/17/09 8:53 PM
A Single Tree in the Forest  Find all comments by A Single Tree in the  Forest
On looker...........i have no idea what you are refering to ..please review what i am written about and who i wrote about ..you are confusing me with someone else ????????????????
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News Item3/17/09 8:45 PM
onlooker  Find all comments by onlooker
tree...Where in verse three does it say this destruction will be fire, and why doesn't it say this destruction is limited to certain cities in America?

AGAIN, the judgment of God is coming, BUT, to say it will hit here and there, it will come in the form of fire here and there is not found in scripture. The very verses you quote speak clearly against what this man prophesied. The judgment of God will be unleashed on the entire world, not just N.Y., or the major cities in America. What about the wicked in Australia, or the U.K., or Iran, or Africa? Will they escape judgment?

From 2 Peter 3:7, 'but the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men' This verse speaks of universal judgment, not specified American cities. NOWHERE in the bible does God pronounce judgment specifically on N.Y. or any major city in America.
If someone claims to be a prophet and is wrong just ONCE, he is false.

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News Item3/17/09 8:12 PM
A Single Tree in the Forest  Find all comments by A Single Tree in the  Forest
Takeheed ......and please note i did use the word "cuckoo"nor do i wave my arms around and around saying you're wrong ..you're wrong............

Now Then please read and note from ...
1 Thessalonians 5........

Chapter 5

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1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

Now the question is Takeheed....
in verse 2&3who is refered to?
your answer is ...
then ...whois refered to in verse 4 to 8
and finally what do the believers watch?
then what is it they then KNOW?

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News Item3/17/09 7:45 PM
onlooker  Find all comments by onlooker
Good point Mike!

Single tree- quote from the bible that he's right.

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News Item3/17/09 7:25 PM
Takeheed  Find all comments by Takeheed
'and He also mentioned in that very same book that the year 2011 was in fact another possible year and as it turns out it just may be ...so my question to the both of you is ....."What if He is Correct....and you are in error'

Yes I see that BIG QUESTION 'WHAT IF...'

Are not the cults like the Watchtower Society infamous for making prophetic claims about certain dates but just in case they might be wrong they will now feather their prophecy nest with the word 'possibly'. How do you reason with those who take heed of such 'authorities'...you may as well cry 'Cuckoo' for asking any reasonable question seems to get the same response.

Now you tell me what Jesus says about no man knowing the day or hour of his coming. Why is Mr Camping your Pope when Jesus is Lord of all and your only authority?

January 1st 2012, if the Lord wills, please get in touch when we can both prove the accuracy of 'What IF and possibly 2011'

Likewise David Wilkerson (who says a lot of good things), he has a hotline to God re: prophecy, yet God hasn't revealed to him the nature of the papacy from scripture

'Take heed that no man deceive you' said the LORD JESUS

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News Item3/17/09 6:59 PM
A Single Tree in the Forest  Find all comments by A Single Tree in the Forest
Onlooker....this is from my previous post ,you must have missed it ....
I'm very familiar with what these gentlemen .but there is nothing that they have said that clearly defines that Camping is in error...if by the way theycould refute him then why have they not called the 'open forum"and stated there case.....Now remember that pastors are paid by the church take and if they would agree then they are "out of work......DON'T YOU AGREE.

now remember onlooker please quote from the bible to prove your case,and again camping stated that there was a high liklyhood in 1994 the cover of the book had a big questionmark .Now how about you quote from the bible why he is in error not a demand just a simple request.
a single tree in the forest

remember we do not need anyone just waving their arms ...saying he's wrong he's wrong............

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News Item3/17/09 6:34 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
onlooker wrote:
Single tree,
You demand others argue from scripture...this is good. BUT, you quote some guy's book and think this makes him legit? How does that justify your argument? If what someone prophesies does not come to pass, he is false. Anyone with any discernment at all knows the judgment of God is closer now than a week ago, but to be an alarmist is not the right thing to do. We must warn of judgment, then give the good news of the Gospel. Let's not be extremists!
Did you by any chance check out takeheed's advice and listen to any of those sermons? Please do!
Some have predicted the end of the world for a long time. I suppose they want credit for their remarkable insight into what God says no one can know. They continually repeat themselves, in the hope they will be right one of these times.
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News Item3/17/09 5:46 PM
onlooker  Find all comments by onlooker
Single tree,
You demand others argue from scripture...this is good. BUT, you quote some guy's book and think this makes him legit? How does that justify your argument? If what someone prophesies does not come to pass, he is false. Anyone with any discernment at all knows the judgment of God is closer now than a week ago, but to be an alarmist is not the right thing to do. We must warn of judgment, then give the good news of the Gospel. Let's not be extremists!
Did you by any chance check out takeheed's advice and listen to any of those sermons? Please do!
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News Item3/17/09 5:08 PM
A Single Tree in the Forest  Find all comments by A Single Tree in the  Forest
To the Attention of both Jim Lincoln & take heed &
Tony Lopez-Cisneros
By the way his book 1994 had a question mark on the front and in the book in many places He stated that this could be the last year He did not state

for sure that it was ..and He also mentioned in that very same book that the year 2011 was in fact another possible year and as it turns out it just may be ...so my question to the both of you is ....."What if He is Correct....and you are in error...perhaps in an effort to show us from the bible his error...s you may want to download the books and read them first. and please don't just wave yours arms about and say he's wrong ...he's wrong....
I'm very familiar with what these gentlemen .but there is nothing that they have said that clearly defines that Camping is in error...if by the way theycould refute him then why have they not called the 'open forum"and stated there case.....Now remember that pastors are paid by the church take and if they would agree then they are "out of work......DON'T YOU AGREE.


A Single Tree in the Forest
ps now please remember make your case from the BIBLE.

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News Item3/17/09 3:46 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Tony, Wilkerson, is a Pentecostal...You were quite correct about Harold Camping being considered cultic...
Jim, I know Wilkerson is a "Pentecostal": or 19th/20th/21st Century Biblical-Literalist Orthodox/Trinitarian 'Protestant' Judeo-Christian "Montanist".

Historically, "Pentecostalism" is a Branch or "Offshoot" of The "Holiness" Movement within The mid-to-late-19th Century American Methodist Church. This is why most "Pentecostals" have a John-Wesleyan or 'Arminian' Theology--as opposed to a More 'Calvinistic' Charles-Wesleyan or George Whitefieldian Methodist-"Pentecostalic" Theology. The "Primitive" Methodist Church Denomination (They Water-"Baptize" ONLY By Immersion) is known for their Calvinistic-Methodist-Pentecostalic Theology.

BOB JONES SR., The Famous American Revivalist, was a "Holiness" Methodist Evangelist Who Started His Ministry With John-Wesleyan "Arminian" Theology in The 1890s--But Concluded His Ministry With Charles-Wesleyan/George-Whitefieldian "Calvinistic" Theology in The 1960s.

NOT ALL HISTORIC PENTECOSTALS (WESLEYAN OR WHITEFIELDIAN) ARE "CHARISMATICS" OR ECUMENISTS !

CAMPING'S REALLY A CULTIC HERETIC !

WILKERSON'S NOT A "FALSE" PROPHET; AS HIS PREDICTIONS MIRROR TODAY'S ECONOMIC FORECASTINGS !!!

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