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FRONT PAGE  |  10/18/2019
SUNDAY, FEB 8, 2009  |  34 comments
We Are All Socialists Now
The interview was nearly over. on the Fox News Channel last Wednesday evening, Sean Hannity was coming to the end of a segment with Indiana Congressman Mike Pence, the chair of the House Republican Conference and a vociferous foe of President Obama's nearly $1 trillion stimulus bill. How, Pence had asked rhetorically, was $50 million for the National Endowment for the Arts going to put people back to work in Indiana? How would $20 million for "fish passage barriers" (a provision to pay for the removal of barriers in rivers and streams so that fish could migrate freely) help create jobs? Hannity could not have agreed more. "It is … the European Socialist Act of 2009," the host said, signing off. "We're counting on you to stop it. Thank you, congressman."

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Susan Miller | internet  Find all comments by Susan Miller
Hate Bills Move Forward In House Judiciary

Since Feb. 9, subcommittees of the House Judiciary have considered two pending federal hate crime bills-HR 256 and 262. Our strategy to defeat them requires high-volume calls of protest, but Capitol phone lines have been jammed all week because of the stimulus bill. Now that controversy has dimmed.

It's time for you to take action.

The Judiciary told me that, because of the president's support, this legislation will be moved forward much more rapidly than usual. The previous version of hate bill HR 256 passed overwhelmingly in the House two years ago. Today, the Democrat-controlled House Judiciary could move these bills onto the floor of the House with blitzkrieg rapidity.

Unless Americans determine not to let our nation turn into an "anti-free-speech" police state like Canada and shout "NO!" right now.

To stop these hate bills, we must repeat the sensationally effective and simple strategy that helped defeat the hate bill two years ago:

1. Phone or email the House and Senate members from your state. Call toll-free 1-877-851-6437 or toll 1-202-225-3121.

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News Item2/16/09 3:52 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
I will NEVER even dignify "narvik 1940's" garbage question with an answer !

NOR EVER RESPECT "moderator alpha"--FOR DELETING MY ORIGINAL RESPONSE--YET PERMITING "narvik 1940" TO POST FOOLISHNESS OR "garbage" REGARDING MYSELF ! ! !

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News Item2/13/09 1:11 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
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News Item2/13/09 11:59 AM
Narvik 1940  Find all comments by Narvik 1940
Tony Lopez-Cisneros wrote:
Evidently "narvik 1940" can NOT tell or discern the difference between "telling a lie" & "bearing false witness"; let alone "always tell(ing) the truth" !
Can YOU tell the difference Tony?

The floor is yours, no further comment to you whatever garbage you post.

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News Item2/13/09 11:29 AM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
narvik 1940 wrote:
How do you know that Christians always tell the truth?
Evidently "narvik 1940" can NOT tell or discern the difference between "telling a lie" & "bearing false witness"; let alone "always tell(ing) the truth" !

And he no doubt is IGNORANT of Present-Day Middle-Eastern True Judeo-Christians & True Middle-Eastern Judeo-Christianity !

Especially The Politics or Governments of The Middle-East--with special note to Iraq, Iran & Syria.

Ofcourse British & American Intelligence Services had knowledge of WMD capabilities well before 2003--especially in the early 1980s in Iraq: When Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin Bombed & Decimated Iraq's (Saddam's) Nuclear Reactors--Not Without Satanic Vatican & U.S. Reagan Admins. PROTESTS ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

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News Item2/12/09 5:45 PM
Candle lit  Find all comments by Candle lit
DJC49 wrote:
And those communes of the 60's and 70's?
They failed for MANY reasons:
·
·The IDEALISM of it came into headlong conflict with reality.
· THEY GREW UP
That's it . . . THEY GREW UP! . . .socialism is an idea that sounds good on the surface, but doesn't work well. It requires a childish way of thinking - and fosters dependency. It is a disincentive to productivity and creativity, and produces stagnation. [When everyone is responsible - the trash doesn't get taken to the curb]. Socialism has to be experienced to see that it will not work. When it doesn't work, it's a shock to those who have bought into it, and hard to climb out of.

Capitalism, with all it's flaws, allows for individuals to be as productive/creative as they wish. Competition is good for the consumer - he gets a better product. There is a level of maturity/responsibility that is required.

When we have men who refer to themselves as "the boys" - and, grown women in their "40's" referring to themselves as "girls" - and, "having fun" our goal in life, we know that we are a country of children - and, socialism sounds good to children who want to be taken care of.

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News Item2/12/09 3:00 PM
Narvik 1940  Find all comments by Narvik 1940
savedbygrace wrote:
So, Americans stood idly by against huge moral evil because ...... you were so peace loving, wise and godly?
Yes, that was the question back to Robert in response to his statement aimed at Scandinavians "Now that reminded me of the success of the policy of neutrality in dealing with the Nazis...".

Seemed to me to be rather hypocritical for an advocate of a giant country that sat idly by the war for over 2 years as a neutral until attacked, to criticise the policies of a hard to defend mountainous European state with a very small population that stayed neutral for just 2 months until attacked.

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News Item2/12/09 2:04 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
Candle lit wrote:
Also, factor in "laziness" - people tend to be lazy, and will always want someone else to do the work. The communes of the '60's and '70's fizzled - might this have been one of the reasons?
Yet another good point made by Candle lit!

And those communes of the 60's and 70's?
They failed for MANY reasons:

· made up mostly of drug-users of every stripe, many eventually burnt out or "lost it."
· the novelty of it all wore off when the VietNam War came to a close and it was no longer "chic" to be an anti-establishment hipster. Disco became all the rage post-VietNam. "Good times" were to be had.
· the IDEALISM of it soon came headlong in conflict with reality. The communicants found out that they weren't all that wonderful when push came to shove & life was hard
· Many of the commune participants were spoiled middle-class college types who, after a while, saw the world shooting past them and realized that their time was limited, that the commune scene was going nowhere, and that it was better to go sell life insurance (or whatever) than to remain and eat brown rice and sprouts for the rest of their lives.
· they had children, and the communal system just couldn't handle these uninvited ones
· it was farce afterall
· they grew up

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News Item2/12/09 10:47 AM
Candle lit  Find all comments by Candle lit
rogerant wrote:
I think that the concept of socialism and communism is a laudable idea, if:
Those who agree the the principals of socialism share each others wealth equally amongst themselves.
Those who agree to commune together in a community and share the fruit of each ones labours and burdens equally amongst themselves.
Take note here though! I wrote, To Those who agree. That is 100% of all those who AGREE! If some other people want to share each one's wealth and burdens, good for them. But if they want to share other peoples wealth against their will, well then, that is THEFT!
And it is not a laudable virture to want to reallocate to one poor soul, the fruit of someone else's labour. This as well, is THEFT!
Also, factor in "laziness" - people tend to be lazy, and will always want someone else to do the work. The communes of the '60's and '70's fizzled - might this have been one of the reasons?
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News Item2/12/09 10:17 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
rogerant wrote:
I think that the concept of socialism and communism is a laudable idea, if:
Those who agree the the principals of socialism share each others wealth equally amongst themselves.
Those who agree to commune together in a community and share the fruit of each ones labours and burdens equally amongst themselves.
Take note here though! I wrote, To Those who agree. That is 100% of all those who AGREE! If some other people want to share each one's wealth and burdens, good for them. But if they want to share other peoples wealth against their will, well then, that is THEFT!
And it is not a laudable virture to want to reallocate to one poor soul, the fruit of someone else's labour. This as well, is THEFT!
Amen, rogerant. Mandadory 'sharing' always allows the ones doing the mandating to be 'more equal,' that is, they are nothing more than thieves.
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News Item2/12/09 9:31 AM
rogerant | Saskatoon Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by rogerant
Sacha Liszt wrote:
I am a Socialist and sadly you're mistaken.
I think that the concept of socialism and communism is a laudable idea, if:

Those who agree the the principals of socialism share each others wealth equally amongst themselves.

Those who agree to commune together in a community and share the fruit of each ones labours and burdens equally amongst themselves.

Take note here though! I wrote, To Those who agree. That is 100% of all those who AGREE! If some other people want to share each one's wealth and burdens, good for them. But if they want to share other peoples wealth against their will, well then, that is THEFT!

And it is not a laudable virture to want to reallocate to one poor soul, the fruit of someone else's labour. This as well, is THEFT!

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News Item2/12/09 4:08 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
So, Americans stood idly by against huge moral evil because ...... you were so peace loving, wise and godly?
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News Item2/11/09 9:48 PM
Narvik 1940  Find all comments by Narvik 1940
savedbygrace wrote:
because he was a Christian and would always tell the truth
How do you know that Christians always tell the truth? My Bible tells me that all men (Christians or otherwise) should obey the 9th commandment. It also tells me that the commandment is broken. Today it seems to be broken with impunity inside and outside of the church. How do you (and how did Saddam) know the heart of Georges Sada?

Also, British and American intelligence services were well aware that the WMD were moved out of Iraq prior to 2003.

So, are you making the case for invading Syria?

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News Item2/11/09 9:47 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
I remember faithfully receiving & reading "Israel My Glory" back in the late 70s/early 80s. I've discontinued subscribing & reading It--& associating with The "Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc." on account of Marv Rosenthal's Sudden Change in Disbelieving & Outright-DENYING The Historic Judeo-Christian Authorized Biblical & LITERALIST Dispensational Pre-Millenial/Pre-Tribulation RAPTURE of The True Church of The LORD Jesus Christ.

I even had the opportunity to meet Marv Rosenthal in person during one of his Prophecy Conferences at a Messianic Synogogue in Skokie, IL. before Rosenthal's Apostasy.

Nevertheless, it's TRUE that Sadam Hussein had MANY True Christians in his Government, Communist/Socialist Government that is: For Saddam was a Baathist Socialist & Communist Party Member of Iraq.

As Bashir Assad is a Member of The Baath Party in Syria !

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News Item2/11/09 4:20 PM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
"Israel My Glory",(irregardless of your eschatology views) the magazine from, The Friends of Israel Gospel Ministry, Inc.,
has an article(Jan./Feb., 2007)with an excerpt from the book, "Saddam's Secrets: How an Iraqi General Defied and Survived Saddam Hussein", by Georges Sada, 2006.

General Georges Sada, one of Saddam's top(and most trusted because he was a Christian and would always tell the truth)military advisors tells of Iraq's enormous stash of WMD's into Syria.

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News Item2/11/09 4:00 PM
Narvik 1940  Find all comments by Narvik 1940
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News Item2/10/09 8:26 PM
Tony Lopez-Cisneros  Find all comments by Tony Lopez-Cisneros
I am NOT a Socialist either; and I agree 100% with "Mark M / Georgia in The OBAMAnation" !

As the Majority of the "Great" Socialists & Communists of the past like Marx, Engels, Trotsky, Lenin, Stalin, "Mao", etc. were closet Vaticanists or "secret agents" working on behalf of The Satanic Vatican "Jesuits" !

Their own writings betray their attempted deceptions upon the reader.

For in them they futily attempt to "deify" the 'state' (politics)--and "damn", "curse" or otherwise belittle the 'church' (religion)--ignoring, ofcourse, that they have made their own writings a "religion" in themselves !

Which is the Very Reason why the "Jesuits" put them up to their dastardly work on behalf of The Satanic Vatican in the first place !

For The Satanic Vatican & Roman Catholicism HATES Competiton in any shape, way or form.

That is why The "Jesuits" 'created' Communism in The First Place:

To Destroy Non-Vatican Controlled Capitalism.

Weaken & Destroy The World's Non-Vaticanist Nations' System of Free Enterprise.

Promote Socialism and Socialistic Ideals.

Conquer The World with their "two-pincher" Systems (really MONSTERS) of "Extreme-Socialism" or COMMUNISM; on the one hand: and, "Extreme-Capitalism" or FASCISM on the other hand !

Obama is just another "tool" !

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News Item2/10/09 1:23 AM
Sacha Liszt  Find all comments by Sacha Liszt
Mark M. wrote:
I'm not a Socialist, but I can see that the country is headed that way.
I am a Socialist and sadly you're mistaken.
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News Item2/10/09 12:22 AM
Mark M. | GA in the Obamanation  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
I'm not a Socialist, but I can see that the country is headed that way. We're under God's wrath as a nation. For years preachers have said that there would be a payday aomeday and now that payday is here. It doesn't mean that we as Christians will suffer. We can still make our lives the best that we can and continue in our Christian faith because this world is not our home any way. Obama and his crew can pass any crazy law they want, but if we are still on God's side He will always work out things best for us. Unfortunately, sometimes God's best isn't new X-box games and an HD TV, it's sometimes being thrown in jail or the lion's den. As to the address he made to the nation last night, I for one refused even to watch it. I believe that we are called to vote for the best leaders, those that are closest to the Christian faith. Obama's stance on abortion and homosexuals should have caused every Christian to vote against him. They did not as evidence by his sitting in the White House today. The nation is getting what it asked for.
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News Item2/9/09 7:26 PM
A Bible Christian Who Believes  Find all comments by A Bible Christian Who Believes
Does anyone know the "nickname" of President Obama's Limo ?

I read somewhere that it's called "The BEAST" !

Anyway, that's Food for Thought.

Now, Regarding Going Through Walls & Raising (or Hurling) Objects Without Handling Them, per se, I Asked JV How That's Done !

He gave me an explanation that went something like this:

"ALL Matter is Living or Has Life; whether by bacteria, molecules, structure, atoms, etc.: ALL Of GOD'S Creation has life, movement, or being From ALMIGHTY GOD.

So, When On Assignment & By The Authority Invested In Me By ALMIGHTY GOD; I CAN & DO COMMAND THE MATTER OR THE CREATION OF GOD TO BE OBEDIENT AND/OR SUBSERVIANT TO MY WISHES & DIRECTIVES AT COMMAND: 'WALL(S) MAKE WAY FOR MY PASSAGE & ENTRY THROUGH YOU; ROCK, BE THOU REMOVED FROM THIS OR THAT THY PRESENT PLACE AND GO OVER TO THAT PLACE WHERE I COMMAND YOU--AT MY PLEASURE & VOLITION; AND THUS AND THUS. . .' "

I had to immediately STOP JV from talking; and told him that We'll have to visit this Subject later--As It Is PRESENTLY TOO DEEP FOR ME TO DEAL WITH JUST NOW !

By then, JV's Mother Came Into The Room.

JV said ON ASSIGNMENT FROM GOD; HE DOESN'T WORK FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF "FAITH", AS I, A BIBLE CHRISTIAN WHO BELIEVES, WOULD: HE SAID "I DON'T EXERCISE 'FAITH' : AS YOU WOULD" !

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