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WEDNESDAY, JAN 28, 2009  |  24 comments
Boehner to GOP: Vote against stimulus
Beneath the polite give and take between the new president and the newly disempowered Republican caucus, there was a sense that Obama’s honeymoon had already begun to ebb. For the first time, it seems, congressional Republicans, shut out of power and seemingly cowed by the harsh verdict of voters and wild popularity of the new president, are finding their voice, rallying in large numbers against the centerpiece of Obama’s agenda.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) started the week swinging, declaring Sunday that he would oppose Obama’s stimulus package as written. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has kept up a daily din of opposition to specifics of the package, mocking the inclusion of a mob museum and a water park. Senate Republicans also are rallying against the Democratic version of a children’s health care bill being debated this week. And most Senate Republicans opposed the confirmation ...


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News Item2/4/09 4:30 AM
savedbygrace | Harrisburg, PA  Find all comments by savedbygrace
Angela,

May the Lord bless you richly. In fact He already has with contentment and trust.
It dumbfounds me why more brothers and sisters in the Lord do not take this stand. Maybe there is simply silence because of a hidden fear that they do not have the knowledge in particular subject matter and there seems to be so many "renaissance-types" posting with incredible knowledge in a variety of subjects. I am not sure but I am sure that more probably do exist.

JOB 42:2

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News Item2/1/09 3:02 PM
Angela Wittman | Illinois, USA  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Dear Mark,

Perhaps you should look at voting the same way you do the other actions of a believer? Maybe you will then understand the point I am making, which is that our vote for candidates should be based on pleasing God and not out of fear (ex. voting for a "lesser evil"). I believe Jesus Christ is LORD and that He sovereignly raises up leaders and sovereignly removes them; my duty before God is to be faithful to Him and leave the results in His hands. If you still disgaree, then please post Scripture which proves my belief in this matter is wrong. Thank you.

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News Item1/31/09 5:27 AM
Mark M. | GA in the Obamanation  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
I don't care if Obama won or if McCain did, once the vote was over the people who stayed home voted for the eventual winner. In this case that winner was Obama. Throughout the election I said many times here that McCain was the lesser of two evils at best. By staying home I feel that many Christians helped to elect the greater evil of the two. I don't like either candidate so I will stay home and let the absolute worst guy win. That's stupid.

I think our economic problems come from both the Republicans, who just lost much of their power and the Democrats, who have been gaining in power since back in the mid-term elections. When the fingers start getting pointed at the Bush admin a lot of people rightfully say that Republicans were in control for most of the Bush years, but they forget that we did "throw the bums out" at mid-term two years ago and that the elected congress failed to do anything substantial in that time; unless you count substantial damage.

I'll go one further and state even though I am conservative and mostly Republican. I think Republicans want this awful bill to pass just as much as the Dems. The GOP knows the bill will pass even if they vote against it. They do vote against it so that if it fails, two years down the line they can stand on their record.

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News Item1/29/09 10:07 PM
Angela Wittman | Illinois USA  Contact via emailFind all comments by Angela Wittman
I disagree that Christians who did not vote in the 2008 election helped elect Barack Obama. Christians should vote for righteousness and not support or vote for inferior candidates out of fear.
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News Item1/29/09 3:27 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
You suppose wrongly. As I mentioned a couple months ago, in 2002, Bush gave his full support to the attempt to extend home mortgages to the unqualified, in the name of closing the "home ownership gap"; it was not just a Democratic agenda.

The financial situation also "belongs" to the millions of folks who supported & benefited from such gov't manipulation of the credit industry.

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News Item1/29/09 3:10 PM
Barry from Ky. | Northern Ky.  Contact via emailFind all comments by Barry from Ky.
I suppose no one here thinks that our current financial situation belongs equally to the repubs as anyone else?
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News Item1/29/09 11:39 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Mark M. wrote:
Well, the stimulus did pass its first hurdle even with all the Republicans voting against it. It is sad that the Republicans made their stand for common sense now when it does no good vs. stopping outlandish spending back when they were in charge for all those years. I think the bill will have a harder time getting past the next phase, but it will get through, probably with a little comprimise. I think the Republicans actually want the bill to pass just as much as the Dems do, but by voting no they can always point to their record come election time. It is much like the regular voter in the past election. There is no way a Christian conservative would vote for Obama, but if they choose to stay home, they can always make the claim that they did not in fact vote for the guy. I'm sure more than a handful of folks on this site probably did stay home or they actually did vote for Obama. All I can say is I hope you are pleased.
Christians who stayed home in fact did help elect Obama. Pretending you don't know what's going on by stopping up the ears and covering the eyes is no excuse.
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News Item1/29/09 9:13 AM
Angela Wittman | Illinois, USA  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Dear Alan,
I joined the Constitution Party of Illinois in 2001 and was a state party officer until 2005.
Dear TT, I am not saying not to rely upon the LORD from whom we all receive our very life from! I am saying be a prophetic witness to the civil magistrate and work toward righteousness in the civil realm. Do not be afraid of the wicked even though it may appear they have the upper hand right now. Jesus Christ is still King of the nations and we are His ambassadors.
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News Item1/29/09 6:20 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Roger NE
I would second that advice from CU, and if you want to see how the Christian Life can be successful, even in the most trying circumstances, try to find a copy of Pastor Richard Wurmbrandts account of when he was imprisoned by the communists in Romania, called 'Tortured for Christ'. It shows how our love for our enemies can be genuine supernaturally, when we are filled with the Spirit of Jesus.

Submission to God's will always brings a peace and contentment that the world can never give.

Try [URL=http://www.chinstitute.org/DAILYF/2001/02/daily-02-29-2001.shtml]]]HERE[/URL]

Good morning DJC49, and how are you today, bro? You're up early, eh?

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News Item1/29/09 6:02 AM
Mark M. | GA in the Obamanation  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
Well, the stimulus did pass its first hurdle even with all the Republicans voting against it. It is sad that the Republicans made their stand for common sense now when it does no good vs. stopping outlandish spending back when they were in charge for all those years. I think the bill will have a harder time getting past the next phase, but it will get through, probably with a little comprimise. I think the Republicans actually want the bill to pass just as much as the Dems do, but by voting no they can always point to their record come election time. It is much like the regular voter in the past election. There is no way a Christian conservative would vote for Obama, but if they choose to stay home, they can always make the claim that they did not in fact vote for the guy. I'm sure more than a handful of folks on this site probably did stay home or they actually did vote for Obama. All I can say is I hope you are pleased.
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News Item1/28/09 10:27 PM
TT | Tennessee  Find all comments by TT
Correction--I meant to say that Robert is right, not Angela--our God is faithful.

Also, Alan H. is right. There is something way more ancient and sinister at work here than any "ism" could describe. Christian and Jews, beware.

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News Item1/28/09 7:19 PM
Alan H | Washington State  Protected NameFind all comments by Alan H
Angela Wittman wrote:
Dear Friends,

I left the GOP 8 years ago and have no regrets.

And where did you go when you left? A lot of others left too and they joined themselves to Barak Obama's principles; and that, by vote. It doesn't appear from what you have said that you went that direction; I certainly hope not!
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News Item1/28/09 5:55 PM
Publican | Northern Hemisphere  Contact via emailFind all comments by Publican
Believers beware.

We all know that there is something much more sinister going on here, than any one type of 'ism' could possibly express.

I have no doubt that very soon, the Christian will be the source of all of America's woes, and we will be reacted to accordingly.

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News Item1/28/09 5:06 PM
Mark M. | Livin' in the Obamanation  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
Only one week in and it seems Obama has us on the fast track to Socialism. I knew it was coming and now it is here, and it's only the tip of the iceberg. I think NY Mike hit the nail right on the head. The Republicans always seem to be weak, even when they are in charge. I will call a spade a spade, the big bail-outs came under Bush's watch. I don't care if the government is bailing out your grandma or the three biggest car manufactures in the US, when the issue is looked at soberly, bail-outs = socialism.
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News Item1/28/09 4:44 PM
TT | Tennessee  Find all comments by TT
Socialism with a smile and flattery is still socialism. But I'm sure there will be plenty who fall for it.

It's still sad that we are still judgin people by the color of their skin and not the content of their character, as evidenced by the Obama win.

Angela is right; we can count on our Lord to be faithful no matter what comes.

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News Item1/28/09 3:09 PM
Angela Wittman | Illinois, USA  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
Dear Friends,

I left the GOP 8 years ago and have no regrets. My concern is Christians may become so demoralized that they will cease to speak out on Biblical issues. If nothing else, we should be witnesses for Christ in the realm of civil government and proclaim "Thus saith the LORD!"

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News Item1/28/09 12:17 PM
Robert | North Carolina  Find all comments by Robert
I could not agree more. I am thankful that I know now that God is in control. Our God is a good God, and his plans are good, and those of us who know him can know that truly all will be well.

I think the question I have been asking myself more frequently lately is, Am I really ready for what's coming?

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News Item1/28/09 12:03 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Disgust motivated me to write this several months ago:

Democrats dislike their country, and work at dismembering it.
Republicans like their country, but are afraid of conflict with Democrats.

Democrats get legislation enacted, even with a minority of the House and Senate.
Republicans can’t get legislation enacted, even when they have the White house, the House and the Senate.

Democrats are proud when they take the country in the wrong direction.
Republicans are proud when they slow down the Democrats’ pace.

Democrats are aggressive in promoting their agendas.
Republicans are skilled in talking about their agendas.

Democrats want more government control of everyday life.
Republicans speak of less government control of everyday life, but
don’t do anything to facilitate less government control.

Democrats talk about helping the middle class.
Republicans talk about helping the middle class.

Democrats want laws that diminish freedom for the good of “society.”
Republicans want laws that diminish freedom for the sake of “security.”

Democrats, when they lose, blame it on purposeful failure to count every vote. When they win, it’s a “clear mandate.”
Republicans, when they lose, blame the media. When they win, behave like Democrats, and find ways to lose.

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News Item1/28/09 11:29 AM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
The fact is that the Democrats and the Republicans are both determined to take us in the same direction. The Dems are just doing it at a much faster pace.
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News Item1/28/09 11:23 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
I was just thinking of that earlier this morning, but forgot to point it out here. Yes, it seems the Repubs preach fiscal restraint only in opposition.
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