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TUESDAY, DEC 23, 2008  |  20 comments
Baghdad celebrates first public Christmas amid hope, memories
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- From a distance, it looks like an apparition: a huge multi-colored hot-air balloon floating in the Baghdad sky, bearing a large poster of Jesus Christ. Below it, an Iraqi flag.

Welcome to the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad, held Saturday and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry. Once thought to be infiltrated by death squads, the Ministry now is trying to root out sectarian violence -- as well as improve its P.R. image.

The event takes place in a public park in eastern Baghdad, ringed with security checkpoints. Interior Ministry forces deployed on surrounding rooftops peer down at the scene: a Christmas tree decorated with ornaments and tinsel; a red-costumed Santa Claus waving to the crowd, an Iraqi flag draped over his shoulders; a red-and-black-uniformed military band playing stirring martial music, not Christmas carols. ...


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News Item12/27/08 9:51 AM
reproof  Find all comments by reproof
Michael Hranek wrote:
reproof
Proverbs 26
4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.
5 Answer a fool AS HIS FOLLY DESERVES, That he not be wise in his own eyes.
Michael,

ALL of the Bible is Truth, but no one person or group of people possess all Truth.

Banned speaks truth about some things. Lately, *Banned* is making more sense. It isn't easy to go against "accepted" truth - to be seen as radical.

The Holy Spirit gives the Believer discernment when one measures everything by the Word of God.

Don't diss everything *Banned* says just because you disagree with some things.

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News Item12/27/08 8:51 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
reproof wrote:
When you squeeze an orange, you get orange juice - not lemon juice, or apple juice.
When you squeeze a Christian (pressure of circumstances), you still get a fragrance of the Lord Jesus Christ, not some distorted, perverted reaction.
"But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceaable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good works, without partiality, and without hypocrisy." James 3:17
reproof

Proverbs 26
4 Do not answer a fool according to his folly, Or you will also be like him.
5 Answer a fool AS HIS FOLLY DESERVES, That he not be wise in his own eyes.

If someone posts hysterical conspiracy theories and makes it out that God does not keep His word, His promises to Israel we would never do him/her any benefit by treating him/her as deserving any crediblility for it is safe to say the Lord Jesus Christ does not want any of His to be fool caught up in folly, nor even the one who is.

Or would you have us also give credibility to those who cut down a tree and take half of it to carve an idol that they worship and use the other half to make a fire to cook their food on?

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News Item12/27/08 8:43 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
reproof wrote:
ACTING like a Christian is hypocritical. The world hates hypocrites. And as a Christian, I would rather a person be a rank pagan than a hypocrite.
BEING a Christian flows from within and manifests itself outwardly in language, consideration and respect for others, - in essence, it is summed up as love - unselfish and sacrificial - GIVING not TAKING.
When one ACTS like a Christian it is for selfish reasons - to gain the approval and/or trust of others, for personal gain and mal-intent - or, to make one feel good about him or herself.
When you squeeze an orange, you get orange juice - not lemon juice, or apple juice.
When you squeeze a Christian (pressure of circumstances), you still get a fragrance of the Lord Jesus Christ, not some distorted, perverted reaction.
"But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceaable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good works, without partiality, and without hypocrisy." James 3:17
Real good point. If the intent is to portray Christianity, the disguise is definitely slipping.
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News Item12/27/08 8:34 AM
reproof  Find all comments by reproof
Banned wrote:
DCJ49,
It would be MORE CHRISTIAN of you to respond to my postings with reason and honesty rather than ridicule and misrepresentation.
ACTING like a Christian is hypocritical. The world hates hypocrites. And as a Christian, I would rather a person be a rank pagan than a hypocrite.

BEING a Christian flows from within and manifests itself outwardly in language, consideration and respect for others, - in essence, it is summed up as love - unselfish and sacrificial - GIVING not TAKING.

When one ACTS like a Christian it is for selfish reasons - to gain the approval and/or trust of others, for personal gain and mal-intent - or, to make one feel good about him or herself.

When you squeeze an orange, you get orange juice - not lemon juice, or apple juice.

When you squeeze a Christian (pressure of circumstances), you still get a fragrance of the Lord Jesus Christ, not some distorted, perverted reaction.

"But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceaable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good works, without partiality, and without hypocrisy." James 3:17

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News Item12/27/08 5:12 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Over come evil

I think you are right on in your post.

And part of the escape from all the programming, especially on the health issue, is to go on the Genesis 1:29 diet, as recommended by George Malkmus in THE HALLELUJAH DIET. He cured himself of colon cancer after taking advice from evangelist Lester Roloff. George's mother had earlier died of cancer through going the world's way of drugs, burning, radiation etc.

The medics have a part to play in health, sure, but they have not kept to the Hippocratic oath properly. Hippocrates himself said, "Your medicine shall be your food, and your food shall be medicine for you." Or something like that, meaning that if you eat and drink the things God ordained, the self-healing properties built in the human frame will take care of it.

Some years ago I was told I'd be on tablets for life for high cholesterol. When I started on the diet I told my doctor and he said he'd be checking it, and was amazed later to find my cholesterol level perfect. I've not had to take tablets for it since. Hallelujah!

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News Item12/27/08 2:11 AM
over come evil | with good  Find all comments by over come evil
We are the most conditioned, programmed beings the world has ever known.

The doors of our perception are carefully and precisely regulated.

In America, conventional wisdom that has mass acceptance is usually contrived: somebody paid for it. Examples:

Pharmaceuticals restore health.

Vaccination brings immunity.

The cure for cancer is just around the corner.

When a child is sick, he needs immediate antibiotics.

When a child has a fever he needs Tylenol.

Hospitals are safe and clean.

America has the best health care in the world.

And many many more

This is a list of illusions, that have cost billions and billions to conjure up. Did you ever wonder why most people in this country think generally the same about most of the above issues?

In "Trust Us We're Experts," Stauber and Rampton pull together data describing the science of creating public opinion in America.

[URL=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/158542059X/optimalwellnessc]]]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/158542059X/..[/URL]

[URL=http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/08/15/perception.aspx]]]http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive..[/URL]

articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2001/08/15/perception.aspx

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News Item12/27/08 1:02 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
Banned wrote:
Maybe the American soldiers, instead of painting skull and crossbones on their tanks (which many of them now do), they should instead paint a picture of Jesus on the tanks (to go along with the hot air balloon theme). Maybe we should have Jesus' picture embedded in the helmets, and on the wings of the fighter planes and missiles while we're at it, kind of how the Jewish children wrote goodbye notes and put them on the missiles that were fired into Lebanon two years ago when Beirut was flattened.
And we're doing all this killing for Israel, but try flying one of those balloons in Jerusalem and see how far you get.
DCJ49, as you can see here I was exaggerating to make a point about the disgusting hot air balloon with Jesus' picture painted on it under discussion in this article. You are the one (not me) who originally supported this hot air balloon idea, to be flown over Baghdad.

It would be more Christian of you to respond to my postings with reason and honesty rather than ridicule and misrepresentation.

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News Item12/26/08 2:08 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Oh, no, BinB, not another icon! Jesus on a tank? that would make us appear as the new Crusaders, q.v., [URL=http://answering-islam.org/Authors/Stenhouse/crusades.02.htm]]]?The Crusades and the Spin Doctors[/URL]. [URL=http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=easternorthodox]]]What's So Wrong With The Eastern Orthodox Church?[/URL], icons for one thing!
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News Item12/25/08 12:59 PM
lyn | usa  Contact via emailFind all comments by lyn
DJC49~excellent commentary!
The ACLU would never allow such a thing here in America, a 'Christian' nation.

May the Lord bless you DJC49, Micheal Hranek, and all who truly belong to Him.

May the Lord bless His people, "But you, Israel, are my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, the descendants of Abraham, my friend. You whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called from its farthest regions, and said to you, 'You are my servant, I have chosen you and not cast you away'~Isaiah 41:9
'Pray for the peace of Jerusalem'~Psalm 122:6
'Peace be upon Israel'~Psalm 125:5

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News Item12/25/08 12:31 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
Michael Hranek wrote:
DJC49
Merry Christmas.
Enjoyed your post and you are quite right it is crazy.
Thank you, Michael!
And may you and ALL your family joyfully celebrate this Remembrance Day of the Incarnation of The Christ.
IOW, Merry Christmas!
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News Item12/25/08 12:27 PM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
Maybe the American soldiers, instead of painting skull and crossbones on their tanks (which many of them now do), they should instead paint a picture of Jesus on the tanks (to go along with the hot air balloon theme). Maybe we should have Jesus' picture embedded in the helmets, and on the wings of the fighter planes and missiles while we're at it, kind of how the Jewish children wrote goodbye notes and put them on the missiles that were fired into Lebanon two years ago when Beirut was flattened.

And we're doing all this killing for Israel, but try flying one of those balloons in Jerusalem and see how far you get.

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News Item12/25/08 12:16 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
DJC49 wrote:
The totally ironic (and terribly saddening) thing about this hot-air balloon event in Baghdad is that:
1) The blood of American troops made it possible for this to happen (it would have NEVER happened under the Saddam Hussein regime).
2) The event was sanctioned, protected and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry -- the present Iraqi authorities!
3) Now, IF this same sort of event happened in any major AMERICAN city ... all hell would break loose! Come to think of it, this type of an event -- flying a huge, multi-colored hot-air balloon with a picture of Jesus Christ on it in an American city -- could NEVER come to pass without violence, public outcries, protestations, and repercussions. [The authorities would never allow to happen in the first place.]
That's how far this country has come, or rather, has gone down the road towards pluralistic, yet anti-Christian paganism. We send troops overseas to fight for the right for people to do the very things that we ourselves are NOT permitted to do!!!
It's CRAZY!
DJC49
Merry Christmas.
Enjoyed your post and you are quite right it is crazy.
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News Item12/25/08 11:57 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
Banned wrote:
It is the Word of God that saves, not some artist's rendering of Jesus. We are forbidden to have images of Jesus anyway.
I'm NOT debating that, [URL=http://rightvoices.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/tinfoil-hat.jpg]]]Banned[/URL].
(But somehow, you always seem to miss the point.)
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News Item12/25/08 11:50 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
DJC49 wrote:
The totally ironic (and terribly saddening) thing about this hot-air balloon event in Baghdad is that:
1) The blood of American troops made it possible for this to happen (it would have NEVER happened under the Saddam Hussein regime).
2) The event was sanctioned, protected and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry -- the present Iraqi authorities!
3) Now, IF this same sort of event happened in any major AMERICAN city ... all hell would have broken loose! Come to think of it, this type of an event -- flying a huge, multi-colored hot-air balloon with a picture of Jesus Christ on it in an American city -- could never have come to pass without violence, public outcries, protestations, and repercussions.
That's how far this country has come, or rather, has gone down the road towards pluralistic paganism. We send troops overseas to fight for the right for people to do the very things that we ourselves are NOT permitted to do!!!
It's CRAZY!
It is the Word of God that saves, not some artist's rendering of Jesus. We are forbidden to have images of Jesus anyway.

This whole thing is disgusting, eerie, and sick.

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News Item12/25/08 11:41 AM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
webwatch wrote:
Whether in truth or not, Jesus Christ was proclaimed to a crowd in Baghdad, Iraq. In that, I take some joy.

Note: Baghdad's population has been estimated at 6.5 million.

The totally ironic (and terribly saddening) thing about this hot-air balloon event in Baghdad is that:

1) The blood of American troops made it possible for this to happen (it would have NEVER happened under the Saddam Hussein regime).

2) The event was sanctioned, protected and sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry -- the present Iraqi authorities!

3) Now, IF this same sort of event happened in any major AMERICAN city ... all hell would break loose! Come to think of it, this type of an event -- flying a huge, multi-colored hot-air balloon with a picture of Jesus Christ on it in an American city -- could NEVER come to pass without violence, public outcries, protestations, and repercussions. [The authorities would never allow to happen in the first place.]

That's how far this country has come, or rather, has gone down the road towards pluralistic, yet anti-Christian paganism. We send troops overseas to fight for the right for people to do the very things that we ourselves are NOT permitted to do!!!

It's CRAZY!

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News Item12/25/08 10:52 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
webwatch wrote:
I said it was not all bad. I did not say that it was perfect. It's easy to mock and scorn and deride. Eat the orange; discard the skin and the seeds; enjoy the fruit.
I think it's better that it happened than if it had not happened.
Whether in truth or not, Jesus Christ was proclaimed to a crowd in Baghdad, Iraq. In that, I take some joy.
Note: Baghdad's population has been estimated at 6.5 million.
"What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice". - Philippians 1:18
Let all who name the nameth the name of Christ, depart from iniquity.

This is sick. This is what the Illuminati do in their mind control -- use the Bible when they are torturing people to give them different meanings of the words, teach them that Jesus is evil.

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News Item12/25/08 10:25 AM
webwatch  Find all comments by webwatch
Banned wrote:
It is a travesty...
I said it was not all bad. I did not say that it was perfect. It's easy to mock and scorn and deride. Eat the orange; discard the skin and the seeds; enjoy the fruit.

I think it's better that it happened than if it had not happened.

Whether in truth or not, Jesus Christ was proclaimed to a crowd in Baghdad, Iraq. In that, I take some joy.

Note: Baghdad's population has been estimated at 6.5 million.

"What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice". - Philippians 1:18

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News Item12/25/08 9:51 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
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News Item12/25/08 9:38 AM
webatch  Find all comments by webatch
a huge multi-colored hot-air balloon floating in the Baghdad sky, bearing a large poster of Jesus Christ. Below it, an Iraqi flag....the first-ever public Christmas celebration in Baghdad...sponsored by the Iraqi Interior Ministry...and reported by CNN

...not all bad

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News Item12/24/08 2:57 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
"Hope springs eternal" [URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/oskar/merry_christmas.html]]]Merry Christmas to Muslims?[/URL] and more to the point, [URL=http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/madany/iraqi_christians.html]]]The Desperate Plight of Iraqi Christians[/URL]. While the author seems to concentrate on the "Eastern Christians" The plight of any non-[URL=http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm]]]Muhammad[/URL]an should be taken into account.
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