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FRIDAY, DEC 12, 2008  |  17 comments
Roman Catholic Church updates code on reproduction
The Roman Catholic Church slams the moral door on many modern reproductive technologies in a new "instruction" for researchers, medical personnel and married couples who want children.

The document, being released Friday, updates and expands church teachings, and gives the force of papal authority to strictures against embryonic stem cell research and abortion. It also says that efforts by infertile couples to adopt and implant frozen embryos is just as wrong as destroying embryos for stem cell research. ...


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News Item12/28/08 4:08 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I already pointed out that the Apostle Paul already told the Romanish Church!
"I Timothy 4
3forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by them that believe and know the truth.

for the above:

Barnes wrote:
Forbidding to marry] These hypocritical priests pretending that a single life was much more favourable to devotion, and to the perfection of the Christian life. This sentiment was held by the Essenes, a religious sect among the Jews; and we know that it is a favourite opinion among the Romanists, who oblige all their clergy to live a single life by a vow of continency."

Of course the Apostle Paul never said Mass or Peter either! [URL=http://www.catholicconcerns.com/Rome.html]]]Were the Early Christians Roman Catholics?[/URL].

RCC cone on reproduction: Priests can do it, Nuns can do it, you just can't do it married!

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News Item12/21/08 1:39 AM
hidemi williges | san francisco, ca  Find all comments by hidemi williges
Why do we tolerate the falsehoods and deceptions of catholics?
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News Item12/17/08 5:47 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
Co Streeter wrote:
Lance
Paul was a Christian
NOT a Roman Catholic!
What?

Do you mean to tell me that
St. Paul never said a Mass,
never heard a confession, never
prayed the Rosary, and never
went to a Bingo game?

Preposterous!

_______________

And if all that's true, there's
no wonder why Paul and Pope Peter I
didn't get along all that well!
(Paul withstood Pope Peter I to his
face [Gal 2:11], and Pope Peter I wrote that
Paul was difficult to understand [2 Pet 3:16] )

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News Item12/17/08 4:40 PM
Co Streeter  Find all comments by Co Streeter
Lance Eccles wrote:
Tell that to St Paul.
Lance
Paul was a Christian
NOT a Roman Catholic!
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News Item12/17/08 4:24 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Jim Lincoln wrote:
I would say that Catholic society holds up the evil of celibacy for women as something good,
...
No a man doesn't have to become a priest, but the evil of it and its lifestyle is held up as a "good" in the Romanish Church,
Tell that to St Paul.
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News Item12/17/08 3:07 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
I would suppose John MacArthur did to talk to ex-priests such as the one who wrote the [URL=http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/bart.htm]]]Pilgrimage From Rome[/URL]. There are many ex-priests out there and some who became Christian, like Mr. Barton. Ah, but you can't tell me that priests don't suggest this life style either? I would say that Catholic society holds up the evil of celibacy for women as something good, so I would agree that a priest (though a nun certainly could) might not suggest to a young girl to become a nun.

So, a man has to commit an evil act (and that is what it is --for non-Christians such as Catholics) to live a celebrate lifestyle? No a man doesn't have to become a priest, but the evil of it and its lifestyle is held up as a "good" in the Romanish Church, so it is still supporting sin, [URL=http://www.catholicconcerns.com/Celibacy.html]]]Mandatory Celibacy[/URL].

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News Item12/16/08 6:21 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Lance, how does John MacArthur twist the truth in The Scandal of the Catholic Priesthood[/URL]?

Lance, I can put another question to you, while it can be said that a man in religious leadership can remain celebrate, though being told that he has to be, of course is satanic,

This is utter nonsense for women, saying they are "married to Christ" when they become nuns.

He says, for example, that priests target young women in the confessional, suggesting they become nuns. How does he know this? The woman might raise the matter, but the priest is very unlikely to do it.

And again: men know that the priesthood involves celibacy. If they don't want celibacy, they don't become priests. No one is forced. And seminarians have about seven years in which to make up their minds. If they don't know after seven years, they'll never know.

And "married to Christ" is self-evidently metaphorical and spiritual. Nuns devote their entire lives to Christ instead of to a husband and family. I think there is nothing wrong with that. Even some laymen and -women do it ‚Äď dare I say, Protestants amongst them.

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News Item12/16/08 2:55 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Lance, how does John MacArthur twist the truth in [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/catholicscandal.htm]]]The Scandal of the Catholic Priesthood[/URL]?

Lance, I can put another question to you, while it can be said that a man in religious leadership can remain celebrate, though being told that he has to be, of course is satanic,

I Timothy 4
3forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by them that believe and know the truth.

for the above:

Barnes wrote:
Forbidding to marry] These hypocritical priests pretending that a single life was much more favourable to devotion, and to the perfection of the Christian life. This sentiment was held by the Essenes, a religious sect among the Jews; and we know that it is a favourite opinion among the Romanists, who oblige all their clergy to live a single life by a vow of continency.
This is utter nonsense for women, saying they are "married to Christ" when they become nuns. They have to have a physical intimacy and contact with their husband, which they can't do with Christ . I might add, Christ isn't a a polygamist!
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News Item12/15/08 5:48 PM
By Your Standards, Not Elect | Oblivion  Find all comments by By Your Standards, Not Elect
It depends on how we talk about what "is".

Neil wrote:
Jim, we all have our hobby-horses, but this article isn't about clerical marriage.
Here's a pertinent comment: The RCC, instead of deducing ethics from Scripture, appeals to "natural law" here instead, which is full of holes. For example, how can ethical norms (what ought to be) be deduced from nature (what is)?
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News Item12/15/08 5:30 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Jim Lincoln wrote:
The Scandal of the Catholic Priesthood[/URL].
This man appears to be aware of the truth, yet he twists it and rejects it. That is the real scandal; and he preaches it from the pulpit.
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News Item12/15/08 2:30 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Actually, Lance, this is why normal men who are priests should make a [URL=http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/bart.htm]]]Pilgrimage From Rome[/URL]. It really seems that the Romish has a policy of "We won't ask and don't tell us," on both natural and unnatural sexual practices of it's clergy, but the whole Roman Catholic magisterium is a false system, [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/catholicscandal.htm]]]The Scandal of the Catholic Priesthood[/URL].
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News Item12/14/08 11:13 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
No doublethink, DJC49, just a plain fact.
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News Item12/14/08 8:12 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
Lance Eccles wrote:
Celibacy in the RCC is voluntary. If you don't want it (and most don't), then you don't choose a calling that involves celibacy. Simple.
No better an example of Orwellian "doublethink" has ever been posted here on this SermonAudio forum.
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News Item12/14/08 7:03 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Since celibacy forces and unnatural state for many men, and perhaps you can say all women who are nuns, except those who are too old or infertile, I would have to say the unnatural status that the Popish church forces on these people makes the article look hypocritical.
There you go again Jim.

Celibacy in the RCC is voluntary. If you don't want it (and most don't), then you don't choose a calling that involves celibacy. Simple.

Of course, there are those whose physical or psychological condition makes marriage impossible, but that is a different matter.

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News Item12/14/08 3:42 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Neil, while the article doesn't have any comments about clerical marriages, clerical marriages reflect on the article. Since celibacy forces and unnatural state for many men, and perhaps you can say all women who are nuns, except those who are too old or infertile, I would have to say the unnatural status that the Popish church forces on these people makes the article look hypocritical. Actually, I have very little disagreement with the RCC in treating people like cattle. I think the Romish church has a point,

Romans 1
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hinder the truth in unrighteousness;
19. because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, [even] his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse:

But then, if they were Christian, they would also have the Bible to go by. The laity of the Catholic Church will ignore their leadership on the points brought up as they have the prohibition against artificial birth control, which I do believe the Catholic women uses much as non-Catholic ones do.

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News Item12/13/08 7:38 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim, we all have our hobby-horses, but this article isn't about clerical marriage.

Here's a pertinent comment: The RCC, instead of deducing ethics from Scripture, appeals to "natural law" here instead, which is full of holes. For example, how can ethical norms (what ought to be) be deduced from nature (what is)?

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News Item12/13/08 4:15 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Still no comments on the great wrong of [URL=http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=celibacy]]]Clerical Celibacy[/URL] for both priests and nuns.
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