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FRONT PAGE  |  10/13/2019
MONDAY, DEC 8, 2008  |  6 comments
Assisted suicide ruled 'a patient's right'
A state district court judge ruled yesterday that patients have a right to doctor-assisted suicide.

Montana's First District Court Judge Dorothy McCarter, the Associated Press reports, declared in the case of Baxter et al. v. Montana that mentally competent, terminally ill Montanans may self-administer life-ending medication and that doctors who prescribe such medications need not fear criminal prosecution.

Robert Baxter, 75, a retired truck driver from Billings who suffers from lymphocytic leukemia, filed the lawsuit along with four physicians in the state's district court system on Nov. 1, 2007. They were aided in the case by the assisted suicide advocacy group Compassion & Choices, formerly known as the Hemlock Society. ...


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News Item12/8/08 7:06 PM
Christiana  Find all comments by Christiana
Here24 wrote:
On the "black hole" theory. I think that anything perceivable by mortal eyes, senses or any physical (temporal) ability, will not have a place in the spiritual realm.
Thanks for the post back, Here24.

I'm not sure what you are saying by the above statement.

We know that John says in Revelation that there will be a "new heaven and a new earth." So, the physical world will be newly created, even as it was in the Garden of Eden, and God pronounced everything "good."

And, in Corinthians, we are told that we will have new bodies suited for heaven. Jesus was resurrected bodily, and, so shall we be. So, we will have a physical body.

I can't imagine that the vast expanses of space will not be observable to us. The Hubble shots that we are privileged to see because of today's technology are mind-boggling.

Certainly, there will be eyes to see such awe-inspiring sights.

"Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor has it entered the heart of man, all that God has prepared for those who love Him."

Maybe I didn't understand your post.

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News Item12/8/08 4:42 PM
Here24  Find all comments by Here24
Christiana wrote:
P.S. Do you think those *black holes* in space will be the "outer darkness" that the rebellious will be cast into?
It is an interesting concept as to whether the unsaved would actually experience happiness, light and contentment in Heaven. I think you are correct in assuming they would not. But then heavenly life will be completely removed from their spiritual existance in damnation. After all that would be Hell!

On the "black hole" theory. I think that anything perceivable by mortal eyes, senses or any physical (temporal) ability, will not have a place in the spiritual realm.

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News Item12/8/08 4:13 PM
Christiana  Find all comments by Christiana
Here24,

Let me preface this post by saying, for me, life would be without meaning if I did not know the Saviour.

Having said that, have you ever thought that sinners would hate heaven? Seriously, what sinner have you ever been around who loves the things that you love?

Sinners don't even want to go to the same restaurant with a Christian if they are drinkers and the restaurant doesn't serve alcoholic beverages. They don't like the same books, music, entertainment, etc. They are not interested in the things of God.

I think sinners would be miserable in heaven with a Holy God and Holy people.

OTOH, in Hell, they will hate their pain, the darkness, the lack of everything that was pleasurable for them on earth, but I do not think they would want heaven, even if given the choice in hell.

P.S. Do you think those *black holes* in space will be the "outer darkness" that the rebellious will be cast into?

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News Item12/8/08 3:21 PM
Here24  Find all comments by Here24
Sadly the Non-Believer cannot perceive what exactly life is. Those who accept the alternative and arrange their own suicide will continue to live - but in eternal damnation. Their eternal suffering will be much, much worse than the pain and trials of life in the flesh.
We must preach hell and damnation to a lost world.

Deut 30:19 "I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore CHOOSE LIFE, that both thou and thy seed may live:
20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: FOR HE IS THY LIFE, and the LENGTH OF THY DAYS: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them."

Acts 17:24 GOD that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25 Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing HE GIVETH TO ALL LIFE, and BREATH, and ALL things"

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News Item12/8/08 9:07 AM
Christiana  Find all comments by Christiana
I'm glad that my convictions regarding end of life issues comes from long held beliefs shaped by God's Word, and re-enforced by men like Francis Schaeffer (now deceased); otherwise, life and death choices - i.e. life-support, feeding tubes, necessary treatment for keeping the body alive vs. letting nature take it's course, would be much more difficult.

Of course, assisted suicide is out of the question for a Believer, but I can understand how unregenerate man would want the option. For some people facing a horrible dying process, only the Grace of God would prevent them from taking their own life.

Having dealt with these issues in caring for dying loved ones has shown me how complicated dying is in our society where laws complicate the process.

Rev. 9:6 says, "And in those days men will seek death and will not find it; and they will long to die and death flees from them."

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News Item12/8/08 7:32 AM
Scott McMahan | Internet  Contact via emailFind all comments by Scott McMahan
The most interesting bit in this article is that the judge equates human beings with animals and does not want to make any distinction between them, and wants to enshrine this naturalistic world view in the law. If nothing else, this violates the federal constitution's establishment of a state religion.

But the article doesn't say (relevant facts? in a news report? never!) on what legal basis the judge found this "right" to killing yourself. I do not know how to get, and don't have time to parse, the decision to see what legal argument was used. That would be very interesting to see how this "right" was manufactured out of thin air.

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