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Choice News WEDNESDAY, DEC 3, 2008  |  44 comments
Free Presbyterian ad caused 'serious offence'


The ad was a response to this behaviour, which went unchallenged at the previous year’s ‘gay rights’ march.

The following is the content of the controversial ad:

THE WORD OF GOD AGAINST SODOMY

Last year in the ‘gay pride parade’ a banner stating “Jesus is a Fag” was carried by one of the participants. The supporter of homosexuality was able to walk through the streets of Belfast displaying this offensive placard in spite of the presence of the PSNI, representatives from the Commission and the march organisers. The act of sodomy is a grave offence to every Bible believer who, in accepting the pure message of Gods precious Word, express the mind of God by declaring it to be an abomination. (Leviticus, ch18 v22, Thou Shalt not lie down with mankind, as with womankind; it is an abomination.) This unequivocal statement clearly articulates Gods judgement upon a sin that has been only made controversial by those who are attempting to either neutralise or remove the guilt of their wrongdoing. As a result, we are now witnessing a hostile spirit being exerted against the testimony of Gods precious Word and those who adhere to its teachings. It is imperative that everyone whose faith is centred upon the authority of the divinely inspired scriptures maintain a strong and public stand for the ethical and moral standards that will ultimately exalt the nation. (Proverbs, ch14 v34, Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people.)

The issue of human rights is no longer a basis for this parade, as successive governments have legislated for the lowering of the age of consent, the authorisation of civil partnerships and the inheritance rights of a nominated partner. It is a cause for regret that a section of the community desire to be known for a perverted form of sexuality, which in certain incidences has provoked the unacceptable and totally unjustifiable response of violence. Such a response, however, must not intimidate the church into silence.

We are obliged under God to publicly challenge the vices of this generation with the divine assurance that the gospel of redeeming grace can change a persons life by making them a new creature in the beloved Lord Jesus Christ. (1st Corinthians, ch6 vs9-11, know Ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you; but ye are washed. But ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the spirit of our God.)

The message of the gospel is purifying, positive and precious all because the Lord Jesus Christ shed his sinless blood on the cross of Calvary to take away sin. We invite you to join us … as we assemble in the park … for a gospel witness against the act of sodomy. This parade is not a welcome addition to our city, neither is it a positive celebration of a profitable lifestyle flaunting a form of sexuality that generations of men and women have righteously resisted and by Gods grace will continue to resist. Romans, ch1 v17?.

The advertising industry's regulator in the UK has ruled that a newspaper advertisement by a Free Presbyterian church in Belfast breached advertising codes in its references to homosexuality.

In advance of the annual gay pride parade last August the Sandown Free Presbyterian Church published an advertisement referring to homosexuality as an abomination.

Several thousand people attended the parade, which passed off without incident, although there were small protests by evangelical Protestants including some from the Free Presbyterian Church.

Now following complaints from four readers, the Advertising Standards Authority has said the ad caused 'serious offence' to some readers and particular care should be taken with future wording.


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News Item12/30/08 2:24 PM
Hanson  Find all comments by Hanson
Kilsally,

That was not Dr Paisley's defense.

He claimed that he had blocked the funding. There is a sermon on this site on which he claims that.

This was a lie.

So
(a) he claimed to have blocked the funding. This was untrue and
(b) those who said that the office headed by Dr P would be funding sodomy were correct. In his time as First Minister the joint office he shared with IRA murderer McGuinness paid sodomites £100,000.

Don't try to change the defense now it has been shown to be so much nonsense.

Read the article. Dr P's account was not supported by his former department.

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News Item12/15/08 6:39 PM
Kilsally | Ulster  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kilsally
Exactly Hanson....he did not approve any such funding, the funding was pre-approved before the department was implemented..he inherited that funding and since decisions require cross community consent he could not remove the funding...the role will be reversed next year when the funding needs reapproval which will require cross-community consent..........
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News Item12/10/08 3:47 PM
Hanson | Ulster  Find all comments by Hanson
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/lsquono-approach-to-paisley-on-gay-fundingrsquo-14003744.html
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News Item12/8/08 7:33 PM
plain enough  Find all comments by plain enough
Kilsally

"Seek Help "

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News Item12/8/08 6:36 PM
Kilsally | Ulster  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kilsally
I`ve read his articles and they are all based on false premise from what I can see.
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News Item12/8/08 1:39 PM
plain enough  Find all comments by plain enough
Kilsally
For some unknown reason this seems to be "way over your head ".suggest you go ask someone ....ie Ivan Foster.. for help.
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News Item12/8/08 12:46 PM
Kilsally | Ulster  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kilsally
Erm are you talking about the parade that the Free P`s protested at? THey did protest `THEN` as you put it as did quite a few other denominations - it seems to me you folks are expecting perfection from men and a church denomination, exhalting men and places rather than looking to Christ - the Free P`s not any other denomination will Save you, only Christ (and that is preached just the same in Free P, Baptist etc)..stop looking to curruptible man for perfection (because you will find none) and lift your eyes (to Christ).
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News Item12/7/08 10:40 PM
SwordandTrowel  Find all comments by SwordandTrowel
A little history said “The ? arises . . why now . .”

Yes why NOW?

What took the FPC denomination so long (a year + 6 months) to react and express their outrage and vocalize their collective PROTEST, speaking with one voice, i.e., as a witness for Christ, in the face of this Christ-dishonouring, insulting and blasphemous sign / placard defiantly flaunted by one of the marchers in this spectacle of ungodliness called the“gay parade”.

Let's not overlook the obvious.

Could it be they have NOW reaped the bitter harvest of their collective silence as they look out upon the NOW empty pews of their respective flocks once occupied by those who have since left their denomination in disillusionment over their failure to stand up for Jesus THEN?

Why was not the voice of every FPC minister of the Gospel heard in opposition to the insult paid Christ by this parade with that of Ivan Foster's THEN?

The article on which we are commenting is entitled “Free Presbyterian ad caused 'serious offence'”, but the fact is that many FP's were “seriously offended” by the SILENCE of her ministers THEN, and have left in PROTEST!

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News Item12/7/08 6:16 PM
A little history  Find all comments by A little history
Kilsally said:
"I`m not quite sure what your point is . ."

Perhaps what Ehud said in a prior post will end your confusion:

"Had they been consistent in their approach then a degree of credence could be attached to their standard.

Now their trumpet cannot even make any sound due the glaring hole of hypocracy allowing all hot air to escape.

The bible speaks clearly on Sodomy as well as lying, murder,false prophets,idle shepherds and hirlings.

The fpc cannot be selective about sin they have not set their house in order hence ichabod.”

I might also suggest if you need further clarification, that you carefully read all the articles cited in prior posts written by Ivan Foster, FPC Gospel Minister . . now retired!

They are pretty straightforward!

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News Item12/7/08 5:47 PM
Kilsally | Ulster  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kilsally
I`m not quite sure what your point is - I`m in agreement with First Minister Peter Robinson`s opinion that he believes in equality of all people in the sense that nobody should be subject to discrimination, harassment of threats of violence because of their race, religion, political opinion or sexuality but that as a Christian he fully supports his wife in her stance on homosexuality, namely like the Free P advert (the Robinsons are not Free P`s) that homosexuality is an abomination, that they condemn that lifestyle choice but they do love the sinner (as we are all sinners). That is the biblical position is it not?
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News Item12/7/08 5:07 PM
A little history  Find all comments by A little history
Let each readers of this blog draw their own conclusions from the article posted by Ivan Foster, former FPC Gospel Minister here:
[URL=http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/truthsodomitefunding.. ]]]http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/truthsodomitefunding..[/URL]
Here's another link that speaks volumes.
[URL=http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0716.pdf]]]http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0716.pdf[/URL]
August 9, 2007 by Ivan Foster, FPC Minister of Kilskeery FPC

Does the picture at this link look familiar? Now, note the picture and caption on the current article at Sermon Audio reproducing the recent Advert of the FPC's which reads:
“The ad was a response to this behaviour, which went unchallenged at the previous year’s ‘gay rights’ march.”

Remember . . .

The only voice rightly raised in protest against this blasphemous display called a “gay parade” within the FPC in the summer of 2007 was that of Ivan Fosters, who was unfairly castigated and demonized for so doing, even accused by Ian Paisley himself & his loyalists of “doing the devil's work” here:
[URL=http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0706.pdf]]]http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0706.pdf[/URL]
The ? arises . . why now . . . coincidentally after Mr. Paisley's untimely departure from the Off. of 1st Min. & FPC Moder.?

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News Item12/7/08 4:45 PM
bucketandspade  Find all comments by bucketandspade
Kilsally wrote:
Once those powers were devolved, because it is a `mandatory power-sharing coalition government` First Minister Ian Paisley cannot revoke such funding without the support of the Deputy First Minister (marxist Sinn Fein`s Martin McGuinnes) which he would not receive.......
Well done kilsally.

It's great to see some common sense on this thread instead of the same old ranting at Rev Paisley.

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News Item12/7/08 4:38 PM
Kilsally | Ulster  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kilsally
a little history - whilst it is true that funding is granted, it was granted by the secretarty of state for northern ireland, peter hain, a british labour party member prior to those powers and responsibilities being devolved to the local Northern Ireland Assembly. Once those powers were devolved, because it is a `mandatory power-sharing coalition government` First Minister Ian Paisley cannot revoke such funding without the support of the Deputy First Minister (marxist Sinn Fein`s Martin McGuinnes) which he would not receive..however once the funding cycle runs out shortly it will need to be re-approved which will reverse the situation and whilst McGuinness will approve it, i will require First Minister Peter Robinsons approval.....
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News Item12/7/08 3:10 PM
A little history  Find all comments by A little history
Ehud said:
“Had they been consistent in their approach then a degree of credence could be attached to their standard.
Now their trumpet cannot even make any sound due the glaring hole of hypocracy allowing all hot air to escape.
The bible speaks clearly on Sodomy as well as lying, murder,false prophets,idle shepherds and hirlings.
The fpc cannot be selective about sin they have not set their house in order hence ichabod.”

The inconsistency of the FPC's trumpet is fully documented below by the witness borne by recently retired FPC Gospel Minister Ivan Foster,in a time when sodomy funding was being facilitated by other "so-called" Servants of the Lord in the FPC:
[URL=http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0701.pdf]]]http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0701.pdf[/URL]
and here:
[URL=http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0716.pdf]]]http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0716.pdf[/URL]
and here:
[URL=http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0705.pdf]]]http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/July0705.pdf[/URL]
and here . . .
[URL=http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/truthsodomitefunding.. ]]]http://www.ivanfoster.net/pdf/truthsodomitefunding..[/URL]

Excerpt:
"It has been repeatedly denied such funding was ever paid over by that office during the tenure of the previous First Minister, Dr Ian Paisley."

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News Item12/7/08 7:50 AM
Mary | North Carolina  Find all comments by Mary
I agree with what Tam Evans commented several comments back.
Let us be wary of being like the Pharisees. We are all guilty- but if God has given us eyes to see, we should pray for and pity their unbelief. God allows us to see the despicable nature of humanity left to itself. How much more should we give praise and worship to Him because of His mercy to us. Why me, Lord?
Not only must we give forth the Word and let it be the sword, but our challenge is to abide in our dear Saviour and Christ, and then our lives will radiate Him and our actions will influence society more effectually than we could ever purpose to do in ourselves.
As easy as it is to point our the awfulness of their sin, shouldn't we be as sickened by the awfulness of our sin of neglecting to do what He told us to do?
The more He draws me to Himself in the Word and prayer, the more I see how much I am lacking in reflecting Jesus.

God help us all!

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News Item12/6/08 4:23 PM
Max | London  Find all comments by Max
The state of the thing carrying the placard speaks volumes. I can almost hear that pathetic example of a human being wailing and knashing his or hers (?) teeth now.

Grieving the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin. I can imagine that calling the sinless Jesus, the blemishless lamb a sodomite in such a public and mocking way is grieving the Holy Spirit.

That thing carrying the offending placard wouldn't dare proclaim Mohammed a fag. And if 'IT' had 'IT' would surley have been arrested for a hate crime.

Our Lord Jesus and his followers seem to be fair game for ridicule on parades, in the media, theatre, schools, in society in general.

Lets take comfort that Our Lord will set a table before our enemies.

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News Item12/6/08 4:20 PM
Joelly | Northern Ireland  Find all comments by Joelly
Amen Max. Said with wisdom.

We are called to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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News Item12/6/08 3:10 PM
Alan H | Washington State  Protected NameFind all comments by Alan H
Thank you very much Sermon Audio for including the original "Add" in its entirety, so everyone can see what all the fuss is about.

I am on the side of those who posted the Add; they have honored both God and his Word by their faithfulness.

Apparently they meant what they said, regardless of what others in their denomination have done to the contrary. So Amen! and Amen! for that little remnant who stood up for the truth, and who included the source of their convictions, the Scriptures, the Word of the living God. It will always be a few, and it always has been; why argue about what the majority has or has not done; it's irrelevant and just a distraction; give God praise for the few.

While this sin is not the only one mentioned by Paul it seems to be the most radical and confrontational. It seems to be predominately this sin which is implied by Jesus Christ as a sign of the end times, while the others are omitted, or at least unmentioned:

"And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man... Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. (Lu 17:26-29)

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News Item12/6/08 10:56 AM
Tam Evans | Scotland  Find all comments by Tam Evans
bucketandspade

amen to all that you have written.,Yes,it is true what you say,may we shine as lights and may we, God willing also retain our saltiness as salt in this corrupt world.

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News Item12/6/08 9:49 AM
bucketandspade  Find all comments by bucketandspade
With the perceived extent of the moral and spiritual decline of society today, all Satan has to do is increase the demonstration of moral decline in the community. But the True Church must be careful during these times not to concentrate in the repudiation of this sin or that. That is where the social gospel will take over as the centrepiece of public evangelism. By simply attacking what is unChristian does not promote and preach the Gospel.
Sin whether the lust of the flesh or breaking the Sabbath is sin which GOD will and indeed does today react too. But sin has been around since Adam and Eve. The world in which we live is and always has been antiChristian. The solution for us as Christian Church is not to change the social secular abomination into the perfect harmony of Scripture. That will never happen in these times. Our task is to preach the Word and witness in an imperfect body, church, town, nation, world, etc, however bad Satan makes things.

Remember

"For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Do all things without murmurings and disputings
That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world" Phil 2.13ff

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