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Choice News THURSDAY, NOV 6, 2008  |  35 comments
Gay activists jarred by California marriage defeat
LOS ANGELES – In a heartbreaking defeat for the gay-rights movement, California voters put a stop to gay marriage, creating uncertainty about the legal status of 18,000 same-sex couples who tied the knot during a four-month window of opportunity opened by the state's highest court.

Passage of a constitutional amendment against gay marriage — in a state so often at the forefront of liberal social change — elated religious conservatives who had little else to cheer about in Tuesday's elections. Gay activists were disappointed and began looking for battlegrounds elsewhere in the back-and-forth fight to allow gays to wed.

"There's something deeply wrong with putting the rights of a minority up to a majority vote," said Evan Wolfson, a gay-rights lawyer who heads a group called Freedom to Marry. "If this were being done to almost any other minority, people would see how un-American this is." ...


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News Item11/15/08 1:13 AM
Nathan | Australia  Find all comments by Nathan
Back to the topic it is saddens me beyond words to hear that we all have fallen so far that such sodomites have such a run of things.

Seems like the gay activists are getting very jarred.

See news item

[URL=http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80743]]]Lesbians, condoms go wild in attack on Christian church[/URL]

What would we do in that situation in our own church if people did that in front of our own kids?

Surely if Jesus braided a whip to beat the money changers out of the temple of God surely this is crossing the line where physical action can be taken in removing them from the congregation?

Surely there must be a limit to what we "tolerate". As a Christian do we stand by and allow a gang of homosexuals sodomise our child while we shout at them? How far do we have to allow them to go before rightous defense comes into play?
There must come a time for righteous action?

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News Item11/13/08 3:20 AM
A Democratic Conservative  Find all comments by A Democratic Conservative
The Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuits", "Jesuitics" or "Jesuiticalists" like "banned" are no laughing matter !

They are Corrupt, Deceiving & Diabolical LIARS: and I will tell it to their faces if need be !

I REPEAT:

#1."banned" is a LIAR in Falely Accusing me of (financially, volunteeringly or physically-materially) supporting US President Elect Obama in any way, shape or form !

(I DID, however, Vote for Obama--Due To The Dis-Information/Mis-Information of The General-Media & Satanic-Vaticanist Influenced-Controlled Right-Winged-Fascist/Nazi so-called "Conservative" Press--as I Believe Millions of US Citizens ALSO Did !)

#2."banned" is a LIAR in Falsely Stating that I'm "looking for a 'job' appointment" in The Obama Administration.

#3."banned" is a LIAR in Falsely Stating that Nury Rivera would have nothing to do with me after reading my posted comments EXPOSING The Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuitic" Covert-Double-Agent "banned" !

#4."banned" has shown his TRUE Colors in giving Credence to The False-Prophet IRREVEREND Manning: and His People-Hating Poisonous Rhetoric [i.e. Calling Man (& Woman; Who were Created in The Image & Likeness of Almighty GOD Himself) "Trash" ] !

Finally, "banned" is a LIAR who is NOT To Be TRUSTED !

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News Item11/12/08 9:32 PM
thinking | Toledo, Ohio  Find all comments by thinking
A Democratic Conservative:

I clicked the little maginifying glass next to your name and viewed your past posts. It is pretty clear that you supported Senator Obama, unless someone else posted under your name, which is entirely possible. Careful calling Banned a liar.

I do appreciate your use of the 'word' JESUITICAL earlier on this thread. It gave me a good laugh.

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News Item11/12/08 9:13 PM
Vogue | California  Find all comments by Vogue
A Democratic Conservative wrote:
The TRUTHS & FACTS Have Already Spoken.
"banned" is a LIAR in Falely Accusing me of supporting President Elect Barack Obama.
"banned" is a LIAR in Falsely Stating that I'm "looking for a 'job' appointment" in The Obama Administration.
"banned" is a LIAR in Falsely Stating that Nury Rivera would have nothing to do with me after reading my posted comments EXPOSING The Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuitic" Covert-Double-Agent "banned" !
And, Alberto HIMSELF would NEVER support a Rabid LIAR, Mis-informer, Dis-Informer & Perverter of The TRUTH; especially one who promotes Evil-Speakers like "Jesuitic" Irrev. Manning as "banned" IS and DOES !
Let's face it Moderators & readers of this sermonaudio website: if "banned" were of The Way, The Truth & The Light; he would NOT be trying to destroy or Character Assassinate a child & Son of The Way, The Truth & The Light !


Dear D.C.:

I agree with you! I think "Banned" is a member of the famous Westboro Baptist Church in Kansas! He behaves just like their PAstor and his children, all of whom are very evil and hateful people, who do what they do in the name of God! How sad. What a pity!

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News Item11/12/08 4:40 PM
A Democratic Conservative  Find all comments by A Democratic Conservative
banned wrote:
If Alberto Rivera's widow were to read your intemperate postings she'd have nothing to do with you...
The TRUTHS & FACTS Have Already Spoken.

"banned" is a LIAR in Falely Accusing me of supporting President Elect Barack Obama.

"banned" is a LIAR in Falsely Stating that I'm "looking for a 'job' appointment" in The Obama Administration.

"banned" is a LIAR in Falsely Stating that Nury Rivera would have nothing to do with me after reading my posted comments EXPOSING The Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuitic" Covert-Double-Agent "banned" !

And, Alberto HIMSELF would NEVER support a Rabid LIAR, Mis-informer, Dis-Informer & Perverter of The TRUTH; especially one who promotes Evil-Speakers like "Jesuitic" Irrev. Manning as "banned" IS and DOES !

Let's face it Moderators & readers of this sermonaudio website: if "banned" were of The Way, The Truth & The Light; he would NOT be trying to destroy or Character Assassinate a child & Son of The Way, The Truth & The Light !

"banned" is Just Another Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuitic"-Plant; sent by Lucifer Himself via Satan's Seat in Rome: to destroy my credibility and insult Nury Rivera & The Satanic-Vatican Exposing Memory of Alberto--who wrote of evil seducing spirits & False Brethren like "banned".

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News Item11/12/08 6:16 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
A Democratic Conservative wrote:
I COMMUNICATE WITH NURY RIVERA, DR. RIVERA'S WIDOW.
SHE AFFIRMS THAT ALBERTO, IF HE WERE ALIVE TODAY, WOULD REPUDIATE "BANNED" & HIS LIES !
If Alberto Rivera's widow were to read your intemperate postings she'd have nothing to do with you or your championing of Obama or the people behind him because her husband lost his life to people like those. Alberto Rivera would never support a rabid proabort or promotor of sexual deviancy candidate like Obama, or shout down whistleblowers trying to expose cover-up murders and clandestine evildoings. Let the facts speak for themselves.

Victor Thorn reports on American Free Press: "Another questionable Obama associate is openly homosexual. That person is Stanford law professor Lawrence Lessig, who was listed during the 2008 campaign as being part of Obama’s “technology initiative.”

In April, Lessig showed a video at a Google seminar entitled Jesus Christ: The Musical where “Jesus Christ lip-syncs Gloria Gaynor’s late 1970s disco hit I Will Survive during which he strips down to just a diaper, effeminately struts along a city street, and finally gets run over by a speeding bus.”

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/
members_of_obama_s_church_kill.html

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News Item11/11/08 7:39 PM
A Democratic Conservative  Find all comments by A Democratic Conservative
Alpha thru Omega Moderators & Readers of this sermonaudio website: I have made it Very CLEAR to you that I'm in TOTAL Agreement with "Vogue" on the Matter of "Maniac" Manning & his Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuit(ic)" apologist "Banned" !

"Banned" is a LIAR; not only in his "blah, blah, blah" statements about Maniac-Manning & Vogue: but also in his statements about me !

I don't know where from Hell and/or The Satanic-Vatican "Banned" is from: but "he/she" sure isn't FROM Heaven or OF Heaven !

He writes as though he's an EXPERT on Maniac-Manning, The so-called "murders" of his "homos" & Obama: and even about me !

If EVER Anyone Has Written INCOHERENT postings FULL of HATE, INTEMPERANCE (I.E. OUT OF CONTROL) AND IN LEAGUE WITH THE SATANIC-VATICAN "JESUITS" (IF HE ISN'T A SATANIC-VATICAN "JESUIT" HIMSELF !), ANTI-CHRISTIAN-UN-BELIEVING-GENETICALY-JEWISH-ZIONIST-LUCIFERIANS, EUGENICISTS, RACISTS, PRO-ABORTION-BABY-KILLERS, GUN-CONTROL-FREAKS, SODOMITE-GOMORRAHITE TERRORISTS, ROTHSCHILD-INTERNATIONALIST BANKERS & FEDERAL-RESERVISTS WHO'VE BEEN FINANCIALLY DESTROYING AMERICA SINCE 1913: IT'S SATANIC-VATICANIST "JESUIT"-AGENT "BANNED" !

I COMMUNICATE WITH NURY RIVERA, DR. RIVERA'S WIDOW.

SHE AFFIRMS THAT ALBERTO, IF HE WERE ALIVE TODAY, WOULD REPUDIATE "BANNED" & HIS LIES !

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News Item11/11/08 12:21 PM
Vogue | California  Find all comments by Vogue
Banned wrote:
If Manning has a church for 27 years and gets invited to speak around the country by other pastors, it shows he has stature and credibility.
Lots of people think Obama is The One, the Messiah, that he's going to restore the Constitution, bring peace and save the country. We'd all like for that to be true, but the facts show otherwise.
Obama, aka Barry Sotero, is already talking about a universal draft.Insiders like Powell, Albright and Biden are warning of a certain terrible crisis on or about January 21 and 22 that will dwarf 9/11. Last fall a plane loaded with nuclear warheads was "accidentally" ordered sent by the USAF from one state to another, and when it landed it mysteriously was missing one of the nukes. Somebody in our military stole a warhead which if dropped on Erie, PA, could, with wind currents, take out Buffalo, Syracuse and Rochester.
9/11 and Oklahoma were staged by our own corrupt government, and if Insiders are telling us to expect more of the same I'm listening.
Banned:

Apparently, you cannot read. If you can, then you would have read that my friend's pastor no longer invites him because he finally came to the conclusion that Manning is unstable and very much a lunatic!

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News Item11/11/08 12:03 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
Vogue wrote:
Manning used to come to Columbia, South Carolina yearly to speak at one of my friend's church!
If Manning has a church for 27 years and gets invited to speak around the country by other pastors, it shows he has stature and credibility.

Lots of people think Obama is The One, the Messiah, that he's going to restore the Constitution, bring peace and save the country. We'd all like for that to be true, but the facts show otherwise.

Obama, aka Barry Sotero, is already talking about a universal draft.Insiders like Powell, Albright and Biden are warning of a certain terrible crisis on or about January 21 and 22 that will dwarf 9/11. Last fall a plane loaded with nuclear warheads was "accidentally" ordered sent by the USAF from one state to another, and when it landed it mysteriously was missing one of the nukes. Somebody in our military stole a warhead which if dropped on Erie, PA, could, with wind currents, take out Buffalo, Syracuse and Rochester.

9/11 and Oklahoma were staged by our own corrupt government, and if Insiders are telling us to expect more of the same I'm listening.

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News Item11/10/08 6:10 PM
Vogue | California  Find all comments by Vogue
Mike wrote:
You are hilarious, Vogue. You also wrote:
"Wow! I am amazed as to why the Moderators let you put up this nonsense and slander of the next President of the USA! Imagine, a person who has never met the man, doesn't know him personally, and yet, you have all of these "FACTS" on him. I know God must be very grieved with you!"
Do you know Manning personally? If so, how and where the association? If not, do you retract your idle gossip, nonsense and slander?
For the record, I am very acquainted with Manning as he use to come to Columbia, South Carolina yearly to speak at one of my friend's church!

You thought you had me did you? He is a lunatic, and thankfully, my friend's pastor stopped inviting him because of his abrasive style and outright insults of the membership.

I've heard him in person SEVERAL times through various venues and he is always the same...stupid! In fact, I actually did a paper on this false teacher!

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News Item11/10/08 5:58 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Vogue wrote:
Banned in Boston:
Where do you come up with these crazy allegations? Rev. Manning of NY is a complete lunatic! I'm certain that this man is an instrument of the evil one! I hope you're not perpetuating idle gossip and slander based on what Manning says! You need to repent and get saved!
You are hilarious, Vogue. You also wrote:

"Wow! I am amazed as to why the Moderators let you put up this nonsense and slander of the next President of the USA! Imagine, a person who has never met the man, doesn't know him personally, and yet, you have all of these "FACTS" on him. I know God must be very grieved with you!"

Do you know Manning personally? If so, how and where the association? If not, do you retract your idle gossip, nonsense and slander?

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News Item11/10/08 11:53 AM
Vogue | California  Find all comments by Vogue
Banned wrote:
Facts: Three homos from Obama's church were murdered, execution style, last year.
Another homo, Larry Sinclair, says he had trysts with Obama and snorted coke with him.
A black pastor of 27 years, Rev. Manning, loudly warns Obama and Rev. Wright are homos and lovers.
The silence of men such as John MacArthur, etc., does not disprove Obama to be a sexual deviant and drug addict.
Fact: Michelle Obama is CFR, a secret society of Luciferians working and plotting to bring on the NWO and destroy America's sovereignty.
Fact: Obama's new new chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is Mossad, son of a Mossad. Chertoff, head of Homeland Security, is also Mossad.
Fact: Obama used his power and charisma to enable the Bankster financial coup of the USA.
Fact: Obama is rabidly proabort, a champion of radical homosexual goals,

Banned:

Wow! I am amazed as to why the Moderators let you put up this nonsense and slander of the next President of the USA! Imagine, a person who has never met the man, doesn't know him personally, and yet, you have all of these "FACTS" on him. I know God must be very grieved with you!

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News Item11/10/08 6:45 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
A Democratic Conservative wrote:
NOW I'm Thoroughly CONVINCED That you, "Banned"...ARE Indeed A Satanic Vaticanist "Jesuitic" FOOL & LIAR ! blah, blah...HATE-FILLED...
There is nothing more hate filled than murder, and last year there are three murders in Obama's church, all execution style, of homos who knew Obama. 50 million abortions a year is also murder, and Obama supports this. Your incoherent postings make it plain you are full of hate, intemperate (ie out of control), and in league with Zionist Luciferians, eugenicists, racists, proaborts, gun grabbers, homosexual activists, and foreign Banksters working to destroy the country. If Alberto Rivera were alive he would not give you the time of day, and Rivera would never have aligned himself with people such as you have, or promote their wicked agendas as you do.
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News Item11/10/08 4:10 AM
A Democratic Conservative  Find all comments by A Democratic Conservative
NOW I'm Thoroughly CONVINCED That you, "Banned" and Anti Anti Vaticanist, ARE Indeed A Satanic Vaticanist "Jesuitic" FOOL & LIAR !

FOR YOUR HATE-FILLED RHETORIC, LIKE MANNING'S, HAS JUST EXPOSED YOU & GIVEN YOU AWAY ! ! !

IF ANYTHING, IT IS YOU WHO IS THE SATANIC VATICAN'S FRIEND & THE ENEMY OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD OF THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE !

THE LORD JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IN ISRAEL HIMSELF REBUKES YOU !

AS DOES HIS HOLY SPIRIT & HIS HOLY FATHER IN HEAVEN !

AND I REBUKE YOU TOO, YOU LYING DECEIVER & SPIRITUAL SON OF SATAN !

REPENT OR PERISH !

"YE ("BANNED") ARE OF YOUR FATHER THE DEVIL, AND THE LUSTS OF YOUR FATHER YE WILL DO. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. WHEN HE SPEAKETH A LIE, HE SPEAKETH OF HIS OWN: FOR HIS IS A LIAR, AND THE FATHER OF IT." JOHN 8:44 !

AND BECAUSE I TELL YOU THE TRUTH, YE BELIEVE ME NOT." JOHN 8:45 !

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News Item11/10/08 4:02 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
A Democratic Conservative wrote:
It's OBVIOUS that Obama did not personally execute those three black "homos"...
But your Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuitic" 'all-things-common'HOLY-Scripture-Twisted Socialism is NOT The Answer--When I viewed his Youtube video calling people "TRASH": I knew right off the bat that He's a PHONEY !
You support a rabid proabort, sodomite, Zionist puppet of the NWO and claim to be standing against the Jesuits. If you are an enemy of the Vatican, who needs friends?

The Bible speaks of Christians entering into voluntary "all things common." This is different than Luciferians, communists, Zionists herding people into camps at the point of a gun.

In the hellish days to come (South Africa providing a example of what America is in for), people will need to form alliances with each other to withstand the pillaging and savagery. If you want to rant against this as somehow "Vaticanist" go ahead and start capitalizing and screaming.

Maybe Obama will give you a job, since you are from Chicago, a seasoned politician who runs for office all the time (even if you never win), and an Obama supporter. Do you go to Rev. Wright's church? Did you know the three men who were murdered execution style last year?

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News Item11/10/08 3:25 AM
A Democratic Conservative  Find all comments by A Democratic Conservative
Banned and Anti Anti Vaticanist wrote:
People aren't accusing Obama of personally executing the three black homos in his church last year. They were executed for him...
Banned and Anti Anti Vaticanist: It's OBVIOUS that Obama did not personally execute those three black "homos" that you speak about in his former church last year. If you know anything about Politics; especially Corrupt Satanic-Vaticanist/Roman-"Catholic"-
Cultic "Jesuitic"-Religious-"Illuminati-Mafia-
Chicago-'Machine' Politics; They have ALREADY 'made' him a "god" as long as he does Their bidding--Just Like Billy Graham IS The man-"god" Protestant "Pope" !

But your Satanic-Vaticanist "Jesuitic" 'all-things-common' Holy-Scripture-Twisted Socialism is NOT The Answer--It Historically Failed Everywhere the "Jesuits" have instituted it: Especially in Paraguay, Russia (Former USSR), China (Not Taiwan), Cuba, Vietnam, Etc. !

I MUST agree with Vogue regarding IRREV. MANNING; As I Believe Manning is Nothing Short of a "Jesuit" Religous 'Plant' & "Protestant" Phoney !

When I viewed his Youtube video calling people "TRASH": I knew right off the bat that He's a PHONEY !

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News Item11/10/08 3:13 AM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
Vogue wrote:
That Rev. Manning is a lunatic, etc, etcetera...
Facts: Three homos from Obama's church were murdered, execution style, last year.

Another homo, Larry Sinclair, says he had trysts with Obama and snorted coke with him.

A black pastor of 27 years, Rev. Manning, loudly warns Obama and Rev. Wright are homos and lovers.

The silence of men such as John MacArthur, etc., does not disprove Obama to be a sexual deviant and drug addict.

Fact: Michelle Obama is CFR, a secret society of Luciferians working and plotting to bring on the NWO and destroy America's sovereignty.

Fact: Obama's new new chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, is Mossad, son of a Mossad. Chertoff, head of Homeland Security, is also Mossad.

Fact: Obama used his power and charisma to enable the Bankster financial coup of the USA.

Fact: Obama is rabidly proabort, a champion of radical homosexual goals, and gun confiscation to clear the way for the NWO and mass roundup into gulags.

Fact: Obama is a puppet of a cabal of wicked men, and will do whatever he's told or face public disgrace and/or assassination.

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News Item11/9/08 11:37 PM
Vogue | California  Find all comments by Vogue
Banned wrote:
Rev. Manning has been pastor of his church for 27 years, w/ networks with other pastors, and wouldn't be speaking out as he is out of the blue sky.
Rev. Manning stated on Jeff Rense's show that he has all kinds of contacts with people in Chicago, that it's common knowledge Obama and Wright are homos.
Larry Sinclair is risking his life to speak out. Three homos at Wright's church have already been murdered, including the choir master and assistant choir master.
The controlled media is silent because the Illuminati needs a charismatic Obama

Banned:

As I said before, Rev. Manning is a lunatic and a tool of the devil! Do not based your slander on what you've heard! you're suppose to be more spiritually mature than that!

Have you ever met Barack Obama? Do you know his lifestyle personally? If the answer is no to both, then you are gossiping and are slandering an innocent person needlessly.

The fat boy, Larry Sinclair flunked a lie detector test, plain and simple. Manning has no credibility with Biblically Sound Pastors!

I promise you that men like John MacArthur, Jack Graham, David Jeremiah, Church Swindoll, Tony Evans, and others would never deal with such a man! He is a demon without question!

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News Item11/9/08 10:14 PM
Banned | in Boston  Find all comments by Banned
Vogue wrote:
Banned in Boston:
Where do you come up with these crazy allegations? Rev. Manning of NY is a complete lunatic!
Rev. Manning has been pastor of his church for 27 years, w/ networks with other pastors, and wouldn't be speaking out as he is out of the blue sky.

Rev. Manning stated on Jeff Rense's show that he has all kinds of contacts with people in Chicago, that it's common knowledge Obama and Wright are homos.

Larry Sinclair is risking his life to speak out. Three homos at Wright's church have already been murdered, including the choir master and assistant choir master.

The controlled media is silent because the Illuminati needs a charismatic Obama type as president to push through gun control and possibly to foment domestic insurrection for an excuse to bring on marshal law.

It would be wonderful to have a black president who truly was for peace, but Obama is just a willing puppet for the Zionist international crime syndicate/foreign banksters to bring on nuclear war with Russia, China and Pakistan.

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News Item11/9/08 8:14 PM
Vogue | California  Find all comments by Vogue
Banned wrote:
People aren't accusing Obama of personally executing the three black homos in his church last year. They were executed for him. Obama is a puppet and the Illuminati will stand by him and treat him like, make him a God as long as he does their bidding. And he will.
We'll be as South Africa is now. Our lives will be micromanaged and taxed to a ridiculous degree; teenaged armed zealots will make sure we aren't using more than our share.
There's strength in numbers in a feudal society. Christians need to get together and practice Biblical all-things-common living while there is still time.
Banned in Boston:

Where do you come up with these crazy allegations? Rev. Manning of NY is a complete lunatic! I'm certain that this man is an instrument of the evil one! I hope you're not perpetuating idle gossip and slander based on what Manning says! You need to repent and get saved!

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