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FRONT PAGE  |  4/21/2019
THURSDAY, OCT 23, 2008  |  21 comments
Obama spells 'persecution,' warns Focus on the Family
What would America look like after four years of an Obama administration?

"Hardship," "persecution" and "suffering" are among the descriptors in a hypothetical letter from a "Christian from 2012" published by evangelical leader James Dobson's political activist group Focus on the Family Action.

Titled "Letter from 2012 in Obama’s America," the piece clearly targets the many evangelical Christians seeking "change," particularly the young, who could tip the election in favor of the Illinois Democrat. At the end of the letter, the fictional Christian laments that these people "simply did not realize Obama's far-left agenda would take away many of our freedoms as a nation, perhaps permanently," pointing to a new, liberal-majority Supreme Court unlikely to change for 30 more years. ...


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News Item10/30/08 3:19 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
a true believer

This is a CONCIENCELESS people, past FEELING and without UNDERSTANDING -- a people who have become so callous and hard-hearted that nothing bothers them any more !!!

TRUE RELIGION THAT PROMOTES A WHOLESOME FEAR OF GOD has been replaced by pathetic proponents of prosperity, those who teach their lopsided messages filled with puff and fluff and they write their never ending books filled with the same, and others who tout their man-made doctrines as they painstakingly pick and choose Scripture they think supports their WATERED DOWN teachings.

Far too many teaching what itching ears want to hear and by so doing they promote dissipation which leads to the searing of the conscience and moral decay. -- Such dissimulation is what has taken hold here in America and men perceive it not !!!

THIS IS A PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN FIT NOT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE GOD, SO GOD HAS GIVEN THEM
OVER TO BASE CONDEMNED MINDS TO DO THINGS
NOT PROPER OR DECENT, BUT LOATHSOME. -- THEIR
HEARTS ARE FILLED WITH ENVY AND JEALOUSY,
MURDER, STRIFE, DECEIT AND TREACHERY, ILL WILL
AND CRUEL WAYS -- SLANDERERS, HATEFUL TO AND
HATING GOD, FULL OF INSOLENCE, ARROGANCE AND
INVENTORS OF NEW FORMS OF EVIL... -- Read Rom 1:28-32

UNREPENTANT AND HELL-BENT !!! --

Veritas Vincit !!!

KK

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News Item10/26/08 9:30 PM
pjd | canada  Find all comments by pjd
Michael Hranek wrote:
leroy
Actually the evangelical contribution to elect someone like Obama as President began long before the primaries.
Let's see
Failure to:
Stand up for the literal 6 days of Creation
Stand up for Biblical Inerrancy
Stand up for prayer in public school when such prayers would have acknowledged God and not Allah nor some other false deity
Stand up against the homosexual movement
Stand up against the ecumencal movement and those 'new evangelicals' who falsely claimed Roman Catholics are genuine Christians
Stand up against the substition of so called Christian Psychology for preaching and Bible teaching, even on so called Christian radio
Stand up against abortion, the murder of babies before they are born
Stand up for the 10 Commandments
Stand up against Bush's lie that Islam is the 'religion of peace' and we all worship the same God
more
Matt 5:13
We need to repent.
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News Item10/26/08 5:02 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
leroy wrote:
As I read the fictional letter I could not help but to wonder what would the race look like if evangelical leaders such as Dr. Dobbson had embrace John McCain as the best allernative rather than continuing to criticize and give fodder for the liberbal media to use against him. I believe that evangelicals have played a great part in the election of Obama.
leroy
Actually the evangelical contribution to elect someone like Obama as President began long before the primaries.

Let's see
Failure to:
Stand up for the literal 6 days of Creation
Stand up for Biblical Inerrancy
Stand up for prayer in public school when such prayers would have acknowledged God and not Allah nor some other false deity
Stand up against the homosexual movement
Stand up against the ecumencal movement and those 'new evangelicals' who falsely claimed Roman Catholics are genuine Christians
Stand up against the substition of so called Christian Psychology for preaching and Bible teaching, even on so called Christian radio
Stand up against abortion, the murder of babies before they are born
Stand up for the 10 Commandments
Stand up against Bush's lie that Islam is the 'religion of peace' and we all worship the same God
more

Matt 5:13
We need to repent.

19

News Item10/26/08 4:48 PM
a true believer  Find all comments by a true believer
Lee Mf wrote:
I believe Dr. Dobson is right about Obama. Just look at the people who have supported him. Ayers, his former Pastor, etc. Too many people are giving all the blame to our President, but I think it should go to the Democratic congress. I am a Christian and Obama supports Gays, same sex marriage's, abortion etc. Wake up people.
Lee, please do your homework before posting misleading and incorrect statements:

Both Obama and McCain are against Gay marriage, but both are okay with "unions"

Obama believes in abortion but so does McCain, although in a limited fashion. Both he and his wife (from an ungodly union), Cindy would make exception in the case of rape or incest (interesting. would God).
Obama believes in upholding Roe V. Wade, McCain wants to give it back to the states. Not a Palin fan but you have to admire her stance on this one!

Don't get me started on the current president:

Worshiped with the current and past pope (False prophet of Rome). Honored Paul and Benedict more than any other president in history.

Called Islam a peaceful religion.

Appointed an openly homesexual to be an ambassador of the U.S. Allowed the ambassador's "partner" to be present at his swearing in.

The list goes on and on.

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News Item10/26/08 4:23 PM
Lee Mf | Michigan  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lee Mf
I believe Dr. Dobson is right about Obama. Just look at the people who have supported him. Ayers, his former Pastor, etc. Too many people are giving all the blame to our President, but I think it should go to the Democratic congress. I am a Christian and Obama supports Gays, same sex marriage's, abortion etc. Wake up people.
17

News Item10/25/08 1:59 PM
Highflyer | Indiana  Find all comments by Highflyer
Hardship, persecution and sufferring eh? That sounds more like what George Bush who Dobson supported has done to the nation of Iraq. What is the far left agenda that these people fear and what America should fear? Could anything get worse in this country after eight years of the proven liars we have in the white house? I am no Obama supporter but these people borderline being kooky when it comes to their politics. The republican party for the most part is hardly any different than the democrats, the only difference I see is where the money goes. America might as well face it, politicians care about power not abortion, gay agendas or any other social ill. Christians have trusted what the republicans have said for a long time and it has got them nothing other than lies and war and corporate welfare. When it comes to politics, Christians are the most compromising people on earth. Just look at Bush, he denies the only true God and Savior Jesus Christ and the Christians still support him. This screams of the apostacy o0f our time.
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News Item10/25/08 10:15 AM
Jack Straw | Louisville, Kentucky  Find all comments by Jack Straw
Have you voted already? If you have early voting in your area, I would encourage you to spend some time at one of these locations to talk to the people before or after they vote. You will find that many do not know much about what they are voting for. You will then learn that your vote does not count for any more than the next guy, who doesn't have Internet access, does not read any newspaper, nor watch any TV news. Even worse, your vote doesn't count more than the dead people that ACORN and other corrupt local politicians have registered to vote to keep themselves in office.
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News Item10/25/08 9:58 AM
CMT  Find all comments by CMT
"I believe that evangelicals have played a great part in the election of Obama."

Yes, Leroy, they certainly have - more than most of them would care to admit.

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News Item10/25/08 9:25 AM
leroy | MS  Find all comments by leroy
As I read the fictional letter I could not help but to wonder what would the race look like if evangelical leaders such as Dr. Dobbson had embrace John McCain as the best allernative rather than continuing to criticize and give fodder for the liberbal media to use against him. I believe that evangelicals have played a great part in the election of Obama.
13

News Item10/25/08 8:39 AM
BibleThumper | Phoenix Az  Contact via emailFind all comments by BibleThumper
voice wrote:
Dobson is correct-----
Obama is the new mouthpiece for the global elite-----today most people are naive to the intent and depravity of those who control the world's economics. He is their houseboy.
Precisely, what is "the intent..of those who control the world's economics??" Who are they? How is Obama their "houseboy"? Be specific please!!
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News Item10/25/08 8:32 AM
voice | ohio  Find all comments by voice
Dobson is correct-----
Obama is the new mouthpiece for the global elite-----today most people are naive to the intent and depravity of those who control the world's economics. He is their houseboy.
11

News Item10/24/08 2:06 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
You gave an intelligent response, G.G.

I don't know why Neil has to prove the obvious, If you read the "Twelve Caesars"(e.g., [URL=http://www.ciao.co.uk/The_Twelve_Caesars_Michael_Grant_Suetonius_ed__Review_5471361]]], e.g., the Michael Graves edition[/URL]) by Suetonius in college, you have gotten to see the personal side of the Romans. John MacArthur pointed out, 'Seneca, a well-known Roman orator said, "We slaughter a fierce ox, we strangle a mad dog, we plunge the knife into the sickliest cattle; children who are born weak and deformed, we drown."' from [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/PARENTS.HTM]]]A Crash Course in Christian Parenting[/URL].

No, Paul did not worry about the governance of the Roman Empire,

Romans 13
1 Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment.

[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=95081114360]]]The Church in the Political Process[/URL]

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News Item10/24/08 1:33 PM
CMT  Find all comments by CMT
I agree, BT. Dobson is definitely unfocused.
9

News Item10/24/08 7:11 AM
BibleThumper | Phoenix Az  Contact via emailFind all comments by BibleThumper
James Dobson is not the best source for prophecy. His 'Focus' is all wrong!
8

News Item10/23/08 10:29 PM
Angela Wittman | SW Illinois  Find all comments by Angela Wittman
If "Hardship," "persecution" and "suffering" are what we'll experience under an Obama presidency, please remember who paved the way with 6 years majority in Congress and GW Bush in the White House for 8 years.

GOP does not mean "God's Own Party"!

7

News Item10/23/08 9:42 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
fuzzy, since you haven't yet answered my question on the other thread, I have no duty to answer yours here.

Ever watch a court trial? It's the prosecutor's duty to supply the evidence, not the jury's.

More logic & less fuzz, please.

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News Item10/23/08 8:48 PM
fuzzy logic | hot spot  Find all comments by fuzzy logic
Neil quote: "Rome was a manifestly dissolute, idolatrous, superstitious, militaristic, babykilling, martyring welfare state."

What is your hard evidence? If your answer involves any kind of research, (links, articles, books, etc., that I should read or movies and documentaries I could watch) then your answer can be applied to the question you asked me on the other thread.

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News Item10/23/08 6:14 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Obama spells 'persecution', warns Focus on the Family ???

.....................................................

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK

4

News Item10/23/08 5:28 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
If the Apostles were as afraid of ancient Rome as Dobson & numerous pastors seem to be of an Obama administration, it wasn't recorded for our edification.

Rome was a manifestly dissolute, idolatrous, superstitious, militaristic, babykilling, martyring welfare state.

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News Item10/23/08 4:07 PM
GG  Find all comments by GG
Scare Mongering?

The Missouri State Attorney General promises to bring charges against anyone who "falsely" criticises Obama.

Joe the Plumber is attacked and loses his job for standing up to Obama.

Sarah Palin is trashed, humiliated sexually (the Letterman show), her family's life, her personal life, her mental ability, and her faith are made sport of and ridiculed on a daily basis thoughout the visual media.

The Democrat Congress begins the long journey to destroy the 1st Amendment by promising to resurrect the "Equal Time" rule from 1947.

Those who call Obama a socialist, or who don't evidence an inate enthusiasm for Marxist Hegemony are labeled "racist".

Scott! Where is your head...man? As if I didn't already know!

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