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SATURDAY, AUG 30, 2008  |  15 comments
Dobson Says He Plans to Vote for McCain Palin
Though Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family has been lukewarm at best in his support of Republican presidential candidate John McCain, today's announcement that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin is joining McCain on the ticket seems to have finally broken the ice for Dobson.

Radio talk show host and columnist Dennis Prager interviewed Dobson on his show today.

The best Dobson has been able to come up with for the McCain ticket so far has been, "I might."


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News Item9/6/08 4:48 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
You know, in most cases I will share my opinion about a subject and leave it at that. I love the KJV and I will tell you why but what Bible version someone reads is not my business. I don't like contemporary Christian music and I'll tell you why but if you do, again, not my business.

When it comes to mothers, especially those calling themselves Christians, leaving their kids to work (when they have a husband) I will tell them without any reservation that they need to be at home with those kids. I would tell Sarah Palin that immediately if I met her. I would tell her husband what a wimp he is for letting her work. Nothing that woman does -and I mean NOTHING- is as important as being at home and raising those children. She has a Down's Syndrome child at home for goodness sake!

If a man wants his wife to work, that's between him and her UNLESS THEY HAVE CHILDREN. Those kids are a whole lot more important that whatever he wants her to work for. From my experience, that's usually why mothers work: so her hubby can have more stuff. It's disgusting.

I think it's hilarious that McCain picked Palin and I am enjoying watching the Obama crowd and the Obama sycophants in the media panic. It's truly funny. She really does, however, need to be at home with those kids.

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News Item9/6/08 3:30 PM
Christiana  Find all comments by Christiana
Kenny,

I agree with most of your observations, although I wouldn't presume to tell Sarah Palin what to do.

Many husbands, even Christians, want their wives to contribute financially to the home. Our choice, for me to stay at home has influenced others to want to do so, also. In some cases, that results in envy. In others, our example has given a picture of an alternative to what the world promotes.

In our case, the Lord did not give us children, even though we were prepared to be parents. That was not in our control. So, you see, we do not determine so much of what life has for us.

In all cases, we are called to submit, to God, to one another, and knowing that He is Sovereign gives a contentment with the circumstances that surround us.

Though my life is blessed beyond what I could ask for, I look forward to that time when I/we live in that perfect abode with our Lord and Saviour. We wait patiently, yet anxiously, longing for Him. Amen. Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

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News Item9/6/08 3:07 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
Christiana,

If a Christian woman has to work or starve, of course she has to do what she has to do. If a woman has been abandoned by her husband and there is simply no one else to help her then she has to work. Most of the time, however, that is simply not the case.

If a Christian mother chooses to work outside the home when she has a husband at home, she OUGHT to feel bad about it. There is an obvious reason for the guilt that she feels. God put it there. I believe it's a perfect example of what Paul was talking about in II Timothy 3.3. Many women are without the natural affection that Paul speaks of for their children. Their rebellious hearts would rather run after a handful of the world's baubles than stay at home, guide the house and raise their precious God given children. I see them every day when I'm running. They drop off their babies at the daycare in their $40,000 SUVs, dressed like queens (for the men at work to enjoy). Strangers are raising their children.

I have raised 3 children and the biggest mistake of my adult wife was allowing my wife to work (she didn't want to) for the first 2 years. I was a fool.

Sarah Palin and every other Christian mother needs to be at home, making a home, helping her husband and raising her children.

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News Item9/6/08 2:40 PM
Christiana  Find all comments by Christiana
'Kenny wrote, "Do you notice the correlation between the women's rights movement and increase in divorce?"

YES..there is a downward spiral when we get away from God's ideal. When Jesus was asked about divorce, He said that it was allowed under Moses because of the hardness of heart, but from the beginning it was not so. So, when we seek to follow God's plan in living, there is a blessedness in that obedience. However, excluding our discussion of Palin for V.P., there are intervening factors that preclude a woman staying home.

I am not a feminist. I am a Christian who has learned the joy of submission to the LORD, and therefore, to my husband, extending to those in authority. Before I was married, I was a professional. We do not have children, and I am blessed to stay at home. However, I know that many who would choose to stay home do not have that option. We should not make Christian women feel even worse about their situations when they have no one to depend on other than the fed. gov't. Unless the church is willing to step in and provide for a family absent a father, they should not degrade women and/or question their salvation if they have to work outside the home.

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News Item9/6/08 2:19 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
"In an ideal world, women would stay at home and raise their children."

Any Christian woman with an able bodied husband at home needs to be at home raising her children. Period. Any able bodied man who has the mother of his children out earning him a living is less than a man. He is the personification of a wimp. God doesn't call mothers to market widgets or to work in call centers. He gives them children because He intends for them to raise them.

"Sadly, fathers die, husbands leave, and women are left to provide for their children."

Yes they do and families (if available) need to step up and help her. Churches need to certainly help her and her family. Churches don't need pastors living like royalty, more 'family centers', choir robes or congregational 'retreats'. They need to do what God intended for them to do and help those in true need. Widows are at the very top of that list.

"In that vain, they ignored the problem of divorce in the '60's and '70's, preferring not to deal with it. Christian wives were ignored by the church when husbands left."

I agree but do you notice the correlation between the women's rights movement, women entering the workforce and the corresponding dramatic increase in divorces? There's a reason for that.

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News Item9/6/08 2:02 PM
Christiana  Find all comments by Christiana
kenny wrote:
God gave Sarah Palin her ministry when He gave her those children. It is her responsibility to raise and nurture them.
Kenny,

In an ideal world, women would stay at home and raise their children. Men would love their wives and provide for them and the children. People wouldn't die, and life would be like it was intended in the Garden of Eden.

Sadly, fathers die, husbands leave, and women are left to provide for their children.

While this is not the case for Sarah Palin, it is the case for millions of women. So, adjust your thinking for the circumstances, or let your church provide for every family that has lost a father and husband.

Sadly, the pastor of the church, sees things not as they are, but as they are imagined. In that vain, they ignored the problem of divorce in the '60's and '70's, preferring not to deal with it. Christian wives were ignored by the church when husbands left.

Open your eyes. We are not to entangle ourselves in the affairs of the world, but we live with the circumstances that are ours.

There are many women who would love to "stay home" and raise their children - it just isn't an option. My grandmother was widowed with children, and my mother raised 5 children after my father

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News Item9/6/08 1:44 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
God gave Sarah Palin her ministry when He gave her those children. It is her responsibility to raise and nurture them. It's not the grandmother's responsibility, the nanny's, the daycare's, the live in sitter's, the school's or anybody else's. It is HER responsibility. God gave the responsibility to her.

No woman can effectively raise children to the best of her ability if she is not there with them. In 99.9% of cases, she cannot be there with them if she is working outside of her home. Being vice president is not a job she can do from home. It's not a job she can do anywhere with children around.

We are seeing the results everywhere today of mothers abandoning their homes and kids to go do what they want to do. Whether it's working in a bank, answering a phone in a call center, trading stocks, selling shoes or being VP, you can not raise kids as God intended while you are doing it. I have watched working women try to raise children via the phone on their desk for over 30 years now and I am absolutely convinced that it cannot be done.

God told Adam that he would have to earn his living by the sweat of His brow, NOT Eve. Sarah Palin has an able bodied husband at home. She needs to go home and raise those beautiful children.

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News Item9/5/08 11:13 PM
MikeInVA | Falls Church, VA  Find all comments by MikeInVA
kenny wrote:
You would think that a guy who wants to 'focus on the family' would believe that a mother of 5 (including a baby with Down's Syndrome) should be at home raising those kids rather than running for VP. Especially a woman who says she's a Christian.
And barefoot too!?!? You should read Proverbs 31 and see that it discribes Palin to T.
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News Item9/5/08 9:32 PM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor,Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
ARTL Action members are holding a sit-in to protest Dr. James Dobson at his Focus on the Family headquarters
James Dobson is violating
this pledge by voting for John McCain for president, a Republican who has recently voted to authorize funding to kill some children by surgical abortion.

"Dr. Dobson repeated his broken pledge on his radio program in March of 1995 saying, "I am committed never again to cast a vote for a politician who would kill one innocent baby," referring to the rape and incest 'exceptions,' "which are a window to the soul of a 'pro-life' candidate," said ARTL Action president Steve Curtis.

"John McCain funds the killing of countless children," said the group's director of research, Darrell Birkey, "for example by voting to allocate monies on Oct. 27, 2005 for tax-funded surgical abortion if the baby's father is a criminal, that is, a rapist." The official Senate.gov website documents McCain's Yea vote on the Health and Human Services Appropriations Public Law 109–149 &the Government Printing Office indicates that McCain's vote authorized funding for abortion to kill an unborn child.."

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News Item9/5/08 5:46 PM
Michael Brown  Find all comments by Michael Brown
Part of my prayer answered Right I'm afriad the people this great nation might give God the finger if that happen this nation is doom I can mushroom cloud in my dreams or metor hit our nation because the people reject God and turning there back on Israel I don't see repence at all but rejection Our true leader are in heaven with Jesus ready to take our nation back to God that all I'm waiting
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News Item8/31/08 10:54 AM
hidemi williges | san francisco, ca  Contact via emailFind all comments by hidemi williges
Unfortunately, Dodson is all Psych'd out. Let's pray that he can find the Lord.
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News Item8/30/08 10:24 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
You would think that a guy who wants to 'focus on the family' would believe that a mother of 5 (including a baby with Down's Syndrome) should be at home raising those kids rather than running for VP. Especially a woman who says she's a Christian.
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News Item8/30/08 6:39 PM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor, Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
Jim, great link!
"When Biden says that we have to identify the enemy, he apparently means that we have to define them as various insurgent and nationalist movements, and find the right mix of concessions and aid to offer them in order to pacify them. Given the Islamic jihad agenda, of course, this is short-sighted, and time and events will demonstrate just how short-sighted the Obama-Biden ticket’s policy really is."

part of the "bogey-man"shift by Dobson to McCAIN's camp (with the addition of the excellent pro-life VP choice)

but still:
What Dobson said about McCAIN
Flip flop documented (audio)
and a public rebuke
Open Letter to Dobson from John Lofton AmericanView
"..let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."Mat5:37.
A double-minded man is unstable in all his ways.Js1:8.

"I will never cast one vote for any man or woman who would kill one innocent baby!"
– Dobson in an address to a huge pro-life rally, in Washington DC, in 1990.

I was there! and made the pledge along with him...

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News Item8/30/08 4:34 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Now there's a kiss of death!,
Gil Rugh wrote:
In some ways, Christian psychologists have become unofficial authorities in the Church. For example, James Dobson’s Focus on the Family and Frank Minirth and Paul Meier’s Minirth and Meier Clinic are two of the most listened to programs in Christian radio today. Many Christians look to these men and other Christian psychologists for answers on Christian living. But how many people who listen to Christian psychologists know the theological background and training of these men? How many know what churches they belong to or if they are qualified to be elders? ... Yet since these men have the title “Christian psychologist,” believers accept them as authorities on Christian living. Many believers live on the words of these men..... The Bible calls us to be discerning and to “examine everything carefully” (1 Thes. 5:21). We should be alarmed when someone’s authority comes from psychological rather than theological training.
from, Psychology: The Trojan Horse
Some of Senator Biden's ideas, Obama bin Biden Ends War On Terror, and we know Obama is very pro-abortion.
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News Item8/30/08 3:21 PM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor, Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
Dobson: "I would pull that lever" for John McCain
Prager-"So are you prepared to say, “Folks, look, given this pick and all I have learned about what would happen with a Democratic victory we have no choice, but to enthusiastically work for the McCain-Palin ticket?”
Dobson: You know, I have only endorsed one presidential candidate in my life.. So I’m very reluctant to do that. You marry a politician you can be a widow pretty quickly.
Prager: That’s right.
Dobson: But I can tell you that if I had to go into the studio, I mean the voting booth today, I would pull that lever.
Prager: Well this is a very big deal.
He'd said he wouldn't vote for him because
McCAIN is not Pro-life
but the bottom of the ticket and the pro-infanticide Obama's enough to get him to break his vow.

Not surprising given hisPsychoheresy

Does he think McCAIN has changed?
I hope so!
Ps.15:4 "In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not."

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