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FRONT PAGE  |  8/19/2019
SUNDAY, JUL 13, 2008  |  57 comments
What Does Obama Believe?
In 1981 Barack Obama was 20 years old, a Columbia University student in search of the meaning of life. He was torn a million different ways: between youth and maturity, black and white, coasts and continents, wonder and tragedy. He enrolled at Columbia in part to get far away from his past; he'd gone to high school in Hawaii and had just spent two years "enjoying myself," as he puts it, at Occidental College in Los Angeles. In New York City, "I lived an ascetic existence," Obama told NEWSWEEK in an interview on his campaign plane last week. "I did a lot of spiritual exploration. I withdrew from the world in a fairly deliberate way." He fasted. Often, he'd go days without speaking to another person. ...

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News Item8/11/08 2:15 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
ENGINEER / USA

Thank you for the SA article ("Obama's Fake Birth Certificate") link --- I must have missed this juicy tidbit !!!

The more I hear and see of Obama the more I know something is amiss --- he isn't who he would have "Us" all believe !!!
.

THERE MUST BE A CRY FROM EVERY CORNER OF AMERICA --- "PRODUCE THE PROOF OF BEING A 'NATURAL BORN' CITIZEN" !!!

.
I'm all for kicking him out of this country if he isn't a citizen --- that is, after he and his cohorts face charges !!! ...

THINK ABOUT IT --- Obama MAY NOT BE A TRUE "CITIZEN" --- JUST ANOTHER ILLEGAL ALIEN ATTEMPTING TO BAMBOOZLE AMERICA !!! --- THAT'S TWO THINGS THAT REALLY STINK --- I L L E G A L ... IMIGRATION AND Obama !!!

Obama or should I say "Berry Soetoro" is not the man for America -- NO WAY !!! ...

I don't know whether to laugh or cry --- Obama has got to be the worst fraud that has ever attempted to become President ------- there are too many questionable things/affiliations surrounding this guy !!! ...

Obama's true hidden agenda could be far greater than any of us have even imagined...

Hmmm

I WANT TO KNOW --- IS Obama A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OR EVEN A CITIZEN ???

"We" NEED TO KNOW !!! ..

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK

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News Item8/9/08 9:17 AM
ENGINEER | USA  Find all comments by ENGINEER
KK wrote:
"THE GREATER" OF TWO EVILS !!!
You have a GREAT point

A previous SA article:
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25808]]]Obama's Fake Birth Certificate[/URL]
is now upheld with 8/8/8 news:
[URL=http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71763]]]'truth' about Obama's birth not known[/URL]
2 analysts Israel Insider interviewed have been "able to independently discern the name 'Maya Kassandra Soetoro' from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document." Maya is Obama's younger half-sister.

This follows a posting from another researcher, identified by the news publication as Techdude, that the birth certificate is a forgery because it originally documented the birth of a woman in the 1970s.

AND Obama's previous 'church'
allowed him to keep his Islamic Faith:
[URL=http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm]]]`many Muslim members in our church'[/URL]
B.O. "[URL=http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971/page/2]]]was raised in Muslim culture [/URL] "
&went to a RCC school that taught him Islam/Koran.

But voting for a lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil.

In a democracy, people get the leader they deserve.

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News Item8/5/08 8:05 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
What does Obama believe? First he wets his finger and holds it in the air...
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News Item8/5/08 5:08 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Aidan McDowell / Las Vegas, Nevada ................

.
Daniel Lee Ford / Spring Arbor, Mich.

Your closing statement was --- "I will say it straight out: any Christian or conservative who supports John McCain has no principles left worth defending!"

I hear ya !!! -- but let us not fail to show up at the polls and be counted as those who stand against Obama !!!

What I want you to consider is this --- If you, or anyone for that matter, decide not to vote THAT'S ONE VOTE YOU (THEY) HAVE GIVEN TO Obama. ------- The question that one must ask oneself is, "CAN I LIVE WITH THAT ???" --- "CAN I LIVE WITH THE '''TUMULTUOUS CONSEQUENCES''' WHICH MIGHT COME TO PASS DUE TO MY INACTION ???"

THINK ABOUT IT !!!

I understand and empathize with your heartfelt discouragement ------- believe me you are justified, but don't throw away ONE GOOD VOTE AGAINST "THE GREATER" OF TWO EVILS !!!

In order for America to get back on track "We" must be far more astute to see that "Our" Elected Servants are toeing the line (**CONFORMING TO A HIGHER MORAL RULE OF LAW -- YES, ADHERING TO THE HIGHER STANDARDS SET FORTH BY "Our" FOREFATHERS** --- FOR THEM IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT GOD AND THEN COUNTRY -- THEY KEPT THEIR "TRUE" PERSPECTIVE WITHOUT FAIL) !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

KK

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News Item8/4/08 12:03 AM
Aidan McDowell | Las Vegas, Nevada  Contact via emailFind all comments by Aidan McDowell
"Some people believe anything !!! -- Just look at Obama -- he actually believes all the media puffery they continually air about him."

KK: You've made a point which bears repeating. Even though Obama is unprincipled, he isn't ruthless enough to succeed in the world of politics. And that will be his downfall. As Machiavelli and Hobbes understood, the politician makes a Faustian bargain--selling his soul for the sake of honor and glory. He must be sufficiently cynical to cultivate one persona for himself, and another for public consumption. This means that he cannot himself really believe in the latter. If he clings to the latter in the vain hope that he will have something left if he loses, he deludes himself. In politics, there's no reward for failure if the Faustian bargain doesn't work out. Wait until after the elections. When he has lost, he will fade into oblivion, just as Kerry did four years ago. Who takes Kerry seriously now? The same is true of Al Gore, notwithstanding his vain attempts to revive his image by invoking crank science and airy New-Age metaphysics.

Whatever one thinks of Obama's stand on "the issues" is irrelevant. He will lose, not on the issues, but because he's a loser. He just doesn't have what it takes to succeed in dark world of politics.

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News Item8/3/08 7:14 AM
Daniel Lee Ford | Spring Arbor, Mich.  Find all comments by Daniel Lee Ford
KK wrote:
[URL=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/21/why-the-obama-ayers-connection-matters/]]]Why the Obama-Ayers connection matters[/URL]

McCain

Right on re : Obama.

There's no way I could support McCAIN, who is almost as bad as Obama.

Baldwin SLAMS McCAin in

[URL=http://www.covenantnews.com/baldwin080408.htm]]]Don't make an Idol of McCAIN[/URL]
"In these United States, there is perhaps no area where the sin of idolatry is more universally practiced than in the area of government. Call it civil affairs, or politics, or affairs of state. Call it what you will, the result is the same: Christians by the millions have surrendered Christ's authority and principles to humanism and pragmatism.

For one thing, a sizeable number of believers allowed President George W. Bush to redefine their Christian principles almost out of existence. They willingly looked the other way while Bush betrayed his word (not to mention the Constitution) and catapulted conservative principles into outer darkness. To the point, that they can now even support someone as liberal as John McCain and still call him a "conservative."

I will say it straight out: any Christian or conservative who supports John McCain has no principles left worth defending!"

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News Item8/2/08 2:35 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Exerpts from an article on hotair.com

[URL=http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/21/why-the-obama-ayers-connection-matters/]]]Why the Obama-Ayers connection matters[/URL]

Article by Mr. Ed Morrisse

You can tell a lot about someone from his choice of friends. ...

What would the Left say if McCain had sat on nonprofit foundation boards with David Duke and sent money to Holocaust deniers? McCain couldn’t have won the nomination in the first place, as such a connection would have repulsed Republicans, and it simply is outside the character of McCain to tolerate that. If he had, Democrats would have a field day with it — and rightly so.

However, Obama and the Left want to demand an end to the probing of the years-long Obama-Ayers association as irrelevant. Never mind that Ayers has openly bragged of bombing the Pentagon. Never mind that Obama and Ayers voted to give $75,000 to Rashid Khalidi, a Yasser Arafat protege in the PLO, during their tenure with the Woods Foundation. The difference apparently is in the target of one’s hatreds; as long as the hatred was directed at the American government, the Left believes it to be irrelevant.

It’s an interesting double standard, and one that Americans might see as very revealing in November.

_______________

Hmmm

KK

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News Item8/1/08 2:13 AM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Excerpts from Chicago Tribune

Radicals never say sorry

Jonah Goldberg
February 26, 2008

'Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon."

This excerpt from William Ayers' memoir appeared in the New York Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 -- a few hours before Al Qaeda terrorists crashed hijacked planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Ayers, once a leader in the Weather Underground -- the group that declared "war" on the U.S. government in 1970 -- told the Times, "I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough"

Ayers, now a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, is apparently a left-wing institution in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood, and Obama visited Ayers' home as a rite of passage when launching his political career in the mid-1990s. The two also served on the board of the charitable Woods Fund of Chicago, which gave money to Northwestern University Law School's Children and Family Justice Center, where Ayers' wife (and former Weather Underground compatriot) Bernardine Dohrn is the director.

______________

Why don't we hear more details about Obama's questionable affiliations ???

The real Obama ??? – Something really stinks !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK

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News Item7/30/08 2:38 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
Mike / New York

Looks as though I struck a nerve with my last post to "A Democratic Conservative" --- he really got ugly about it.

It's scary how so many have been fooled into believing all the media hype Obama receives -- they make him out to be "the new messiah" and they are drawn into his never ending gushing blathering bunkum...

........................................... U N B E L I E V A B L E !!!

... Obama is an imposter !!! -- He's a new-fashioned demagogue ... nothing more than a smiling face with a knife behind his back ... and if America dares to take him into their confidence it will be "Our" demise by a thousand cuts !!!

There is far too much the media isn't saying about this phony !!! -- It really says a whole lot about all the Broadcasters “parti pris” --- they just ignore the facts creating the truth they want Americans to hear !!!

Far too many Americans tend to believe whatever the talking heads in the media tell them ------- America has been so dumbed down ... it's beyond comprehension ------- it's no wonder the hellishly debased is becoming so deeply rooted in "Our" culture ... people have not eyes to "SEE", ears to "HEAR", nor hearts to "RECEIVE" REAL TRUTH !!! --- It's so sad !!!

Veritas Vincit !!!

"IN" Christ, KK

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News Item7/30/08 10:17 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jhawk44 wrote:
Godwin's law invoked, thread shutting dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn...
Error. Quirk's Exception invoked.
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News Item7/30/08 9:54 AM
Jhawk44  Find all comments by Jhawk44
[QUOTE]Flag-Idol worshippers like you & your Nazi "Zieg Heil" Cohorts don't suprise me in the least ![/QUOTE]Godwin's law invoked, thread shutting dowwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnnn...
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News Item7/30/08 9:46 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Moderator Alpha wrote:
Mike,
Sorry I had to remove your post but it's best to not quote someone when it is obvious that their post violates forum policies.
No problem. Should have thought about that.
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News Item7/30/08 7:25 AM
ENGINEER | USA  Find all comments by ENGINEER
[URL=http://www.christianworldviewnetwork.com/article.php/3793/Brannon-Howse/By-Thomas-E-Brewton]]]CITIZEN OF THE WORLD -- Obama[/URL]
European socialists and Middle Eastern Muslims are wildly
enthusiastic about Senator Obama, because he styles himself a citizen
of the world who, like all liberal-progressive-socialists, aims for
world government.
American liberal-progressive-socialism, in the person of Senator
Obama, is a carbon copy of European socialism, and Islamic jihadists
recognize that socialism offers no opposition to their ruthless jihad
to enslave the entire world.
.......
"I come as .... a..citizen of the world." Obama
Citizen of the world is liberal-progressive-socialist code for world
government, the fundamental socialist goal impelling the 1960s
student anarchism.

Whether one supports the liberal-progressive agenda or not, there
must be clear-eyed recognition that it is pushing the United States
to toward abolition of national sovereignty. From Supreme Court
advocacy of international and foreign country law as superseding the
Constitution, to "sensitive" foreign policy that must be pre-approved
by the UN, we are barreling down the slippery slope to socialist
impoverishment and domination by foreign powers.

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News Item7/30/08 12:20 AM
Moderator Alpha  Protected NameFind all comments by Moderator Alpha
Mike,

Sorry I had to remove your post but it's best to not quote someone when it is obvious that their post violates forum policies.

. . .

Christian Warrior,

Read the Forum Policies before you post again. They are in red and blue letters in the "Add new or Reply to comment" windows and we expect all users to honor them.

Thank you.

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News Item7/29/08 10:05 PM
rogerant | Saskatoon Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by rogerant
A Democratic Conservative wrote:
"roger antonini": FIRST of All, NO ONE has Ever Even HEARD "Rev" Wright's Completed, UnTouched, UnEdited, UnAltered, UnCensored & UnAbridged sermons.
From Rev. Wright's talking points from the Trinity United Church of Christ Website:

The vision statement of Trinity United Church of Christ is based upon the systematized liberation theology that started in 1969 with the publication of Dr. James Cone’s book, Black Power and Black Theology.

... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal"

James Cone...

Must I post more, check it out yourself. PS. Barak attended the church and studied it's teachings for 20 years and identifies Wright as his mentor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_liberation_theology

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News Item7/29/08 8:56 PM
True Christian Warrior  Find all comments by True Christian Warrior
Only if They Are Vatican-Jesuit "christian 'roman-catholic' warriors"
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News Item7/29/08 8:55 PM
Faithful Remnant  Find all comments by Faithful Remnant
Yep, I would agree, the flag is worshipped as is the country. And this will be the downfall. It is not far off from the doctrine of infallibility in the Roman Catholic Church.
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News Item7/29/08 8:51 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
[Removed by Moderator Alpha]
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News Item7/29/08 8:22 PM
A Democratic Conservative  Find all comments by A Democratic Conservative
kk(k) wrote:
.
NAY, But you "kk(k)" have got A LOT to LEARN ! ! !

Flag-Idol worshippers like you & your Nazi "Zieg Heil" Cohorts don't suprise me in the least !

Especially, how Adolf Hitler & His Goons Proudly Displayed Their Swastika Flags, Banners & Ensigns !

I see you like doing The SAME !

Except you are Pathetically Trying To Use The American Flag (Which Stands Unashamedly for The U.S. Constitution) as a Surrogate for The Crooked-Cross Emblem of Der Furer in Der Satanic-Vatican (which stands For Satan's Seat in The Church/State Anti-Christian Monster in ROME) !

+BETTER TURKISH THAN PAPIST+ !
+BETTER OBAMA THAN McCAIN+ !

+BETTER TURKISH (MOHAMMEDAN) THAN PAPIST (VATICANIST)+ !

+BETTER (CHRISTIAN-PENTECOSTAL) OBAMA THAN (SATANIC-VATICANIST) McCAIN+ !

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News Item7/29/08 7:50 PM
KK | USA  Find all comments by KK
A Democratic Conservative wrote:
.
You've got a lot to learn !!!

Remember the pictures of Obama standing facing the Flag while "Our" National Anthem was playing ??? -- And what was Obama doing ??? -- He was standing there dumb as a rock showing his utter contempt for "Our" Flag and those who have given their lives for GOD AND COUNTRY --- he stood there slouchily, with his arms hanging down in front of him and his hands intertwined --- THAT WAS TOTALLY DISRESPECTFULL --- AND IT SPEAKS VALUMES ABOUT "WHO" Barack Hussein Obama REALLY IS !!!

It is quite apparent that you have been brain-washed into believing Obama is the new "messiah". --- I hate to burst your bubble, but Obama is a "CHARLATAN" of the highest degree !!! -- You my friend have been duped -- you best CHECK YOURSELF -- you are following a blind man off a cliff without a parachute !!!

I understand that the pickings are slim, but Obama is not even close to being the man "We" need as President -- I wouldn't let him clean the Presidential Privy much less be President of The United States of America !!!

Some people believe anything !!! -- Just look at Obama -- he actually believes all the media puffery they continually air about him

Obama ??? .. Hell ??? .. N O !!!

KK

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