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WEDNESDAY, APR 23, 2008  |  64 comments
Gideon Bible hits century mark
New York's famed Plaza Hotel reopened in March after a $400 million, two-year lobby-to-roof renovation. Every room features 24-karat gold-plated sinks and fixtures. And inside every Louis XV-inspired nightstand sits a Bible, courtesy of the Gideons.

The same goes for the Motel 6 in Abilene, where you pull off Interstate 20 onto Shirley Road, park at your room's front door, open the drawer of the nightstand, and there it sits, the Bible, courtesy of the Gideons.

Since 1908, 60 years before the Beatles' Rocky Raccoon went into his room, only to find it, the Gideon-distributed Bible has been sent, gratis, to nearly every hotel in the United States, as well as those in 183 countries. Though the mission of Gideons International reaches the century mark this year, there is no celebration planned at its headquarters in Nashville, Tenn., nor would organization officials grant interviews. ...


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Bill Grimes | Georgia  Find all comments by Bill Grimes
Thank you, Gideons, for your faithful work of love in spreading around the precious Word of God.

May our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ bless you all sevenfold for your faithfulness.

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News Item5/21/08 2:12 AM
KJV1611 | new york  Find all comments by KJV1611
Jim Lincoln
First, there KJV Onlyers who can be considered Catholic Protestants, they accept tradition over even an accurate version of the Scriptures They are like arguing with Catholics.
You are so far from the truth here. Truth is you know nothing about people that stick with the KJV, except what you've heard about us. I will never consider myself nor does my church as being (Catholic Protestants) I am a Christian first, then I'm a Baptist. I like most other KJV readers have studied a lot to find the true version, and all of the research leads you right to the KJV 1611. I'm a former NIV reader, and if you study enough that book is a wicked version so the devil can get you away from the doctrines of the KJV. Without a doubt he can't touch GOD'S plan for Salvation, but he is watering it down. It took me along time to find out, but I'm so happy I did. I have the best Christian life I have ever experienced since I found the true Word of GOD (KJV)!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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News Item5/13/08 4:09 PM
Minnow  Find all comments by Minnow
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Minnow, I think I will point out two things, First, there KJV Onlyers who can be considered Catholic Protestants, they accept tradition over even an accurate version of the Scriptures They are like arguing with Catholics. The KJV Ryrie Study Bible, is an excellent aid for people to get at the meaning of the changed words, and other problem areas of the KJV. You don't have to read the comments of the Ryrie if you don't want to, Ah, being English must be the reason you don't use the ASV....
Ooohh Jim;
What have you done?....

Now I don't mind if you call me heretic. Or say that we grace filled Calvinists have come from the Roman church in the 16th century. Or even call me crazy.....

But Jim - Don't call me "english"

Did ye no ken....
I'm Frae Caledonia laddie.

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News Item5/13/08 2:58 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Minnow, I think I will point out two things, First, there KJV Onlyers who can be considered Catholic Protestants, they accept tradition over even an accurate version of the Scriptures They are like arguing with Catholics. The KJV Ryrie Study Bible, is an excellent aid for people to get at the meaning of the changed words, and other problem areas of the KJV. You don't have to read the comments of the Ryrie if you don't want to, Ah, being English must be the reason you don't use the ASV The preface to that, [URL=http://www.bible-researcher.com/asvpreface.html]]]Preface to the American Edition[/URL] or for that matter, the NASB, [URL=http://www.bible-researcher.com/nasb-preface.html]]]Preface to the New American Standard Bible[/URL]. They both make interesting reading and are respectful towards the AV.

At least, we have been having any defenders of the [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/roman-catholicism/RC1W0900.pdf]]]The Roman Catholic Bible[/URL] or the New World "Translation" [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/theological-dictionary/TD0605W4.htm]]]Part 1[/URL] and [URL=http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/theological-dictionary/TD0705W4.htm]]]Part 2[/URL]. I suppose that will be the next thing we see.

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News Item5/12/08 9:37 PM
kenny  Find all comments by kenny
I don't understand why it's such a big deal having a few words in the KJV that everyone might not be familiar with. Just jot down the meaning at the bottom of the page or in the back of your Bible. Besides, the more familiar you become with your Bible, the more familiar you will be with those words. I personally enjoy learning new words.

Another good benefit is that once you go to the trouble of researching an unfamiliar word in Scripture, chances are you will learn something new that ties in with that word or why the Lord chose that particular word.

I have read the NASB and I'll guarantee you I could easily find 50 words/terms in it that most folks would have to look up the meaning for. Also, if the translators use formal equivalence, new believers are going to have to look up a lot of new words no matter what version they choose to use.

I would rather put my confidence in a time tested, trustworthy English version of God's Word with a few terms & phrases that I need to familiarize myself with than one of the modern versions that leaves me questioning important, fundamental doctrines.

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News Item5/12/08 3:24 PM
Minnow  Find all comments by Minnow
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Users of the KJV can be Christians, as can people who prefer a more accurate version of the Bible.
Ah Jim;
It's a complex world we live in, is it not? I have books here on my shelf that describe all the errors of the modern versions, so I guess it depends on your favourite authors.

I was brought up on the KJV, moved later to the NIV Then tried the NKJV and finally came home to the KJV, by His grace.
This journey included doing Greek at theol college, and I'm happy now that the Holy Spirit guides me into all truth.

PS I've got a copy of your fav, the NASB, BUT I don't speak American...

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News Item5/12/08 2:53 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Jim, that's a pretty small subset of Biblical vocabulary, and many KJVs now have explanatory footnotes for those. But I admit it may be a problem for demotivated victims of modern schools.

But you must not think it a big enough objection to tell folks to avoid KJVs altogether, so long as they have Dispy footnotes! Your hidden agenda is showing....it is pathetically blatant.

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News Item5/12/08 2:20 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Where is that occasional word? Where and when one must also ask, Neil.
Todd Strandberg wrote:
Almug, algum, chode, charashim, chapt, earing, gat, habergeon, hosen, kab, ligure, leasing, maranatha, nard, neesed, pate, pilled, rabboni, raca, ring-straked, stacte, strake, sycamyne, thyme wood, trode, wimples, ouches, tatches, brigandine, ambassage, occurrent, purtenance, bruit, fray, cracknels, nusings, mufflers, anathema, corban, talitha cumi, ephrata, aceldama, centurion, quarternion, delectable, sanctum sanctorum, carriage, wot, trow, sod, and swaddling clothes.
from [URL=http://www.raptureme.com/rr-kjvo.html]]]King James Onlyism[/URL]. This is one reason a rather unknown version of KJV, the AKJV came out, which says it only modernizes those words.

No problem, just get a Charles Ryrie King James Version Study Bible. I mean if you don't want to go with the superior NASB.

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News Item5/11/08 4:06 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Ah, Jim, James White is an elder at Phoenix Reformed Baptist Church.

And while Elizabethan English may be difficult for Shakespeare students, the KJV isn't so hard. The occasional archaic word can be found in ordinary dictionaries.

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News Item5/11/08 4:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, kjv lover, that is why I do point out, [URL=http://www.bible.org/page.php?page_id=665]]]Why I Do Not Think the King James Bible Is the Best Translation Available Today[/URL]. Because it mixes error with truth. It is a flawed translation. Does it have theological errors like the Jehovah Witness or Catholic Bible --No. Well, it doesn't if you have a dictionary that will translate Elizabethan English into English, The Ryrie Study Bible does a good job of that. I will agree with others that if the antiquated KJV leads people to Christ, fine. As that Presbyterian Elder James White has pointed out, [URL=http://vintage.aomin.org/A%20Response%20to%20a%20Brother%20in%20Christ.html]]]A Response to a Brother in Christ--Dr. Morris' "Defense" of the King James Bible Reviewed[/URL]. Users of the KJV can be Christians, as can people who prefer a more accurate version of the Bible.
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News Item5/10/08 5:40 PM
bernie | usa  Find all comments by bernie
Mike, your post "we shouldn't humanly limit God to, or by, a version, should we?" is well put and makes the most sense of all. Whatever version is preferred by the individual, I assure those who doubt, God can and will transform those who truly belong to Him. It would seem some are quick to pass judgment and doubt based on a preference, not realizing we, in our human state, cannot see what truly lies in the heart of those who may disagree with a view one holds fast to. Please, all should bear this in mind, "Do not speak evil against one another, brothers. The one who speaks against a brother or judges his brother speaks evil against the law and judges the law. There is only one lawgiver and judge, He who is able to save and to destroy." James 4:11,12- from the ESV
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News Item5/10/08 5:23 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Minnow wrote:
Mike;
I guess the Holy Spirit does need human help in communicating the Truth after all, judging by your post. Maybe He's not as powerful as He once was??
The interesting thing about the modern versions, is that not only did they find it necessary to update the vernacular, but also use eclectic Greek texts and contributers such as messrs Westcott and Hort. This included changing the word for word translation to Dynamic Equivalence as redacted and revised by modern design.
I wonder why the Holy Spirit required the words, verses and sense of the Bible to be changed, at some points?
Do you think that one day soon, we will ever get the perfect version if we keep trying?
No. There is no perfect version. Though some may disagree, I don't believe this hinders the Holy Spirit from revealing the Father's will, should it be his will to do so. We shouldn't humanly limit God to, or by, a version, should we?
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News Item5/10/08 4:37 PM
a kjv lover  Find all comments by a kjv lover
another kjv lover wrote:
The NKJV-NKJB is a poor excuse for the backers of the Vaticanus-Sinaticus to properly defend their Per-Versions of The Holy Bible.
The so-called NKJV-NKJB is a very, very weak Translation of the TEXTUS-RECEPTUS.
Sorry "jim lincoln", you lose this argument 100%.
When I was a little boy being taught by my Mother with the open "King James" Version of The Holy Bible on her lap; I can remember Mama one time saying, "My Son; always remember that the Devil doesn't always come to you with a lot of lies; but he mixes a lot of truth with his sly and crafty lies--and you will be gotten; not because you didn't believe some of the truths that he said: but because you received ALL of his LIES mingled in with alot of the truths that he says."

Whenever I read the comments of Jim Lincoln; I remember the words of Mama.

Jim Lincoln says a lot of truth on this sermonaudio website--but when he talks about the "King James" Version; he speaks as if it is not Completely The WORD OF GOD !

He writes like those Devils and demons that my Mother warned me about.

Especially those devils and demons who speak alot of truth--but mingle some lies with the truth--so that you could swallow their lie or lies with alot of the truth that they say.

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News Item5/10/08 7:29 AM
Minnow  Find all comments by Minnow
Mike wrote:
We should indeed ask whether it is too tough a job for the Holy Spirit to reveal all truth to those who do not speak the language of "thee" and "thou." Or do some still think God is an old Englishman?
Mike;

I guess the Holy Spirit does need human help in communicating the Truth after all, judging by your post. Maybe He's not as powerful as He once was??

The interesting thing about the modern versions, is that not only did they find it necessary to update the vernacular, but also use eclectic Greek texts and contributers such as messrs Westcott and Hort. This included changing the word for word translation to Dynamic Equivalence as redacted and revised by modern design.
I wonder why the Holy Spirit required the words, verses and sense of the Bible to be changed, at some points?
Do you think that one day soon, we will ever get the perfect version if we keep trying?

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News Item5/10/08 3:13 AM
Bill Stephenson | South West, England  Contact via emailFind all comments by Bill Stephenson
Thank you, that is very encouraging, that people are still taking an interest in things of God. At work this week someone asked for a Bible, So the next day I bought one, and a friend saw this and asked for one too. I made sure that this was a serious request, and hope to get an oppertunity to witness of the Love of Jesus to them both. Well done the Gideons and keep up the good work, and I would encourage anyone to help them in their great task. People need to know who Jesus is.
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News Item5/9/08 8:07 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The Lone Wolf wrote:
Mike, the "thees" and "thous" pertains to the second person singular or plural and the part of speech.
Nominative case
Thou art worthy (2nd person singular)
Ye must be born again (2nd person plural)
Objective case
I say unto thee (2nd person singular)
I say unto you (2nd person plural)
Possessive case
Thy word is a lamp (2nd person singular)
Your words shall betray you (2 person plural)
The NKJV does not make those distinctions
In light of language as spoken today, so?
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News Item5/9/08 6:30 PM
enough already | usa  Find all comments by enough already
God can use the KJV, the new KJV, NASB, ESV, Geneva, etc., to change the hearts of those whom He saves. Most born again believers use several different translations, including my pastor, to study from. For anyone to insist on one specific translation and accuse those who differ as being deceived is just not biblical. We all grow in Christ according to God's word, regardless of translation, if we truly belong to Him. Let's remember to be careful with our words, not accusing the brethren falsely. We must bear in mind the need for humility, choosing our words carefully so we do not sin against God or offend our brothers\sisters in Christ.
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News Item5/9/08 5:51 PM
The Lone Wolf | Crying in the Wilderness  Find all comments by The Lone Wolf
Mike, the "thees" and "thous" pertains to the second person singular or plural and the part of speech.

Nominative case
Thou art worthy (2nd person singular)
Ye must be born again (2nd person plural)

Objective case
I say unto thee (2nd person singular)
I say unto you (2nd person plural)

Possessive case
Thy word is a lamp (2nd person singular)
Your words shall betray you (2 person plural)

The NKJV does not make those distinctions

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News Item5/9/08 5:12 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Minnow wrote:
Jim;
Isn't it interesting that if you read the literature of the 19th century, it is the same vernacular as we use today. Why is it then that we need an update in the language when they did not. Are we thicker than they were? Or does the Holy Spirit have a tougher job with our poor brain cells today?
After all the reason for the "thee's" and "thou's" is that it is correct grammar which of course we can't use today.
Perhaps with all authorities disappearing from our societies, (eg morals) intelligence is going too?
Nothing specially correct about "thees" and "thous" except they were once used in a language no longer spoken. We should indeed ask whether it is too tough a job for the Holy Spirit to reveal all truth to those who do not speak the language of "thee" and "thou." Or do some still think God is an old Englishman?
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