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FRONT PAGE  |  11/25/2017
MONDAY, MAR 10, 2008  |  15 comments
New Forum to Try to Improve Catholic-Muslim Ties
ROME — The Vatican on Wednesday announced a new Catholic-Muslim Forum to try to improve relations between the religions. The announcement came after a delegation of Muslim scholars met with members of the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue on Tuesday.

In a joint statement issued by the Holy See, the parties said that the forum’s first meeting, a seminar called “Love of God, Love of Neighbor,” would take place in Rome in November. The seminar, which will involve leaders and scholars from both religions, will deal with both theological matters and social themes. Pope Benedict XVI is expected to address the participants.

The delegation, which last year took part in writing an open letter calling for cooperation between Christianity and Islam, held a news conference on Wednesday to discuss the new forum. ...


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News Item3/13/08 7:18 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
John Yurich wrote:
As a Catholic who is Born Again by reason of having asked Christ to become my Savior and who is being guided by the Holy Spirit I believe that the Vatican is nuts for wanting to have anthing to do with the satanic religion of Islam.
_____

IMO, Rome isn't much concerned with the obvious conflicts that exist between Romanism and Islam. She's much more concerned over her churches being burned down and parishoners being killed by the more radical elements within Islam. That's what's at the heart of this.

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News Item3/13/08 6:59 PM
John Yurich | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich
As a Catholic who is Born Again by reason of having asked Christ to become my Savior and who is being guided by the Holy Spirit I believe that the Vatican is nuts for wanting to have anthing to do with the satanic religion of Islam.
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News Item3/13/08 2:27 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Lance, I see a few of the fellows already answered your question or works, as does the Reversing the Reformation booklet. However, you should also look at the article on The Scandal of the Catholic Priesthood, which doesn't deal that much with the sexual misconduct of the Roman Catholic priesthood. You should also look at article that deal specifically on policy of "Immaculate Deception"

The ISBE on the Immaculate Conception (in part)

Louis Matthews Sweet wrote:
We can only say, in conclusion, that every reason, which usually operates in a Christian mind to insure rejection of a false teaching, ought to preclude the possibility of accepting this peculiar dogma which is Scripturally baseless, historically unjustified and doctrinally unsound.
The Immaculate Conception
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News Item3/13/08 12:34 AM
preacherjond.  Find all comments by preacherjond.
Lance Eccles wrote:
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
"For I was an hungred, and you gave me no meat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink..." (Matt:25:41, 42, etc.)
Sounds like God expects at least a few works from us.
You don't realize that you are taking this passage of scripture completely out of context, and it has absolutely nothing to do with Christian works toward salvation.
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News Item3/12/08 9:44 PM
Allan | NZ  Find all comments by Allan
They deliberately ignore statements like in my post that says
"Justified by faith alone with works as sanctification after justification".

Because if they acknowledged it they would have to see biblical 'works' come after a person is saved.

Closing your eyes doesn't make the truth go away tho. God isn't a supermarket... you can't pick and choose which items you take and leave behind.

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News Item3/12/08 8:14 PM
DJC49 | Florida  Contact via emailFind all comments by DJC49
Lance Eccles wrote:
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
"For I was an hungred, and you gave me no meat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink..." (Matt:25:41, 42, etc.)

Sounds like God expects at least a few works from us.

_____

Works ... yes.
But not done with the intention of attaining to or gaining (in any way) salvation.
Works are merely the by-product of faith and are barely noticed by the "worker."

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News Item3/12/08 7:23 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Salvation by Works
"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
"For I was an hungred, and you gave me no meat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink..." (Matt:25:41, 42, etc.)

Sounds like God expects at least a few works from us.

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News Item3/12/08 2:40 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Lance Eccles wrote:
Nevertheless there remain certain differences:
Trinity
RCC: yes
Islam: no
Divinity of Christ
RCC: yes
Islam: no
Resurrection
RCC: yes
Islam: no
Redemption
RCC: yes
Islam: no
Priesthood
RCC: yes
Islam: no
[Ah Lance, this is the case that the Romanish Church and Islam are both wrong, q.v.,
The Scandal of the Catholic Priesthood
Mass and sacraments
RCC: yes
Islam: no
[Ditto, q.v. The Sacraments (43-51)
Immaculate Conception
RCC: yes
Islam: no
[Ditto, q.v., The Ecumenical Farce Exposed!
And so on and on...
Salvation by Works

RCC: Yes
Islam: Yes

Christianity: NO!

Reversing the Reformation

Justified by Faith Apart from Works

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News Item3/11/08 10:23 PM
Allan | NZ  Find all comments by Allan
And yet it's the critical matter of the means by which a person is saved that makes the only eternal difference.

Justified by faith alone with works as sanctification after justification?
RCC: no - you're anathema if you believe that
Prot: yes - it's what scripture says

Scripture and Pope disagree on this one issue. It just happens to be a deal breaker item of the Christian faith.

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News Item3/11/08 9:51 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Minnow, in any Reformed church, I'm sure I will hear truth regarding some matters.

But in other matters, I'm afraid I will hear different "truths", depending of the Reformed church I choose to attend.

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News Item3/11/08 5:41 PM
Minnow  Find all comments by Minnow
Lance Eccles wrote:
Nevertheless there remain certain differences:
Mass and sacraments
RCC: yes
Islam: no
Immaculate Conception
RCC: yes
Islam: no
And so on and on...
Aaww c'mon Lance.
You know as well as we do, the most dangerous false religions are those that are a razors edge away from the truth. Thats why the RCC is far more dangerous than the Muslims, whose religion can easily be repudiated.

BTW The "Immaculate Conception" is complete fallacy. Now can you receive the Truth?
If you can then get to a Reformed Church near you quick.

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News Item3/11/08 5:15 PM
Lance Eccles | Goulburn NSW  Contact via emailFind all comments by Lance Eccles
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Catholicism and Islam have much in common
Nevertheless there remain certain differences:

Trinity
RCC: yes
Islam: no

Divinity of Christ
RCC: yes
Islam: no

Resurrection
RCC: yes
Islam: no

Redemption
RCC: yes
Islam: no

Priesthood
RCC: yes
Islam: no

Mass and sacraments
RCC: yes
Islam: no

Immaculate Conception
RCC: yes
Islam: no

And so on and on...

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News Item3/11/08 4:26 PM
Dr. Phil  Find all comments by Dr. Phil
"And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." Rev. 16:12-14

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News Item3/11/08 2:42 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Fuzzy Logic, the leadership of both groups are gang leaders, leading their followers to destruction. Catholicism and Islam have much in common, that is why Understanding Islam and Roman Catholicism is important to Christians.
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News Item3/11/08 9:03 AM
fuzzy logic | lab  Find all comments by fuzzy logic
I apologize in advance for what may be an obscure reference.

When I saw the article's title and that it was taken from the New York Times, I immediately thought of the gang movie, 'The Warriors.'

The movie was about a gang leader, Cyrus of the Riffs, who wanted to unite all of the gangs of NY in order to take over the city. Cyrus calls a conclave in which 6 or more representatives from each gang were to meet for this 'secret' meeting.

Am I implying that the RCC and Muslims are gang members? No. I am just stating that this movie from 1979 came to mind. If anyone is behaving like a gang who terrorizes, let us look into our American mirrors and see who is messing things up in the world. Remember, there is no "R" or "D" which follows Jesus Christ's name.

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