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FRONT PAGE  |  7/16/2019
SATURDAY, DEC 22, 2007  |  15 comments
Judas Was a "Demon" After All, New Gospel Reading Says
Judas was a traitor—even a "demon"—according to a new translation of the recently revealed Gospel of Judas.

The new interpretation contradicts the first translation, released by the National Geographic Society in April 2006. But the debate is far from settled.

That initial interpretation of the newfound gospel says that the apostle was following Jesus' orders when he gave Jesus up to enemy soldiers.


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News Item1/1/08 11:48 PM
John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by John
Biblical wrote:
"Amen
There are contradictions in the other
one's
mostly the Nearly Inspirational Version
niv-"

"Nearly Inspirational Version"--or NIV!
I LOVE it! So many of my fellow believers
are IN LOVE with this translation of the
Bible--which is not a translation at all
but a thought for thought--rather than
word for word conversion of the original
language. Don't you just LOVE the fact
that our most recent Biblical scholars
were so disdaining and condescending of
us to think we would be too stupid to
be able to struggle through a word-for-
word translation of the Bible so they
had to try to make things even simpler
for us?

I say give me the good old KJV, with
all it's faults, and a Strongs concordance
rather than have my hand held by someone
who thinks I'm a spiritual moron compared
to them!

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News Item1/1/08 12:50 PM
Biblical | The Word  Contact via emailFind all comments by Biblical
extra, extra, extra wrote:
Nay, "rob", The KJV, NASB, etc are NOT ALL interpretations; but translations.
Translations that stand on Totally Different "Greeks" and "Hebrews".
The KJV-KJB Stands on The Old-Time Tested, God-Honored and Historically Superior Majority-Byzantine New Testament Greek (And The Most Ancient Old Testament Masoretic Hebrew Scriptures).
whereas
The NASV-NASB etc Stands on The Perverted/Corrupted 2nd Century Heretical/Arian Inferior Minority-Alexandrian "New Testament" 'Greek' (And an Altered and Corrupted Old Testament Masoretic 'Hebrew' "Scriptures")!
Even The Dead Sea Scrolls; which were discovered in th 1940s (whose dating goes far back--even into the 1st Century AD) Agree Over 80% of The Time With The Authorized King James Version/KJV-KJB of The 66-Booked Authorized Holy Bible/Judeo-Christian-Scripture(s)!
The Historic Evidence is Irrefutable:
The KJV-KJB is The Most Accurate/God-Honored English Translation of The Authorized Holy Bible/Scripture(s) for About The Last 400 years!
No Other "Modern" English Translation Can or Will Ever Hold A Candle to The King James Version of The Authorized Holy Bible/Scripture(s)!
Amen
There are contradictions in the other
one's
mostly the Nearly Inspirational Version
niv-
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News Item1/1/08 12:44 PM
AntiVaticanistAmerican | U.S.A.  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
rob wrote:
THe KJV, NABS, etc are ALL intrepretations & the Greek/Hebrew will bring us even closer to the truth
Nay, "rob", The KJV, NASB, etc are NOT ALL interpretations; but translations.

Translations that stand on Totally Different "Greeks" and "Hebrews".

The KJV-KJB Stands on The Old-Time Tested, God-Honored and Historically Superior Majority-Byzantine New Testament Greek (And The Most Ancient Old Testament Masoretic Hebrew Scriptures).

whereas

The NASV-NASB etc Stands on The Perverted/Corrupted 2nd Century Heretical/Arian Inferior Minority-Alexandrian "New Testament" 'Greek' (And an Altered and Corrupted Old Testament Masoretic 'Hebrew' "Scriptures") !

Even The Dead Sea Scrolls; which were discovered in th 1940s (whose dating goes far back--even into the 1st Century AD) Agree Over 80% of The Time With The Authorized King James Version/KJV-KJB of The 66-Booked Authorized Holy Bible/Judeo-Christian-Scripture(s) !

The Historic Evidence is IRREFUTABLE:

The KJV-KJB is THE MOST ACCURATE/God-Honored English Translation of THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE-SCRIPTURE(S) for About THE LAST 400 YEARS !

NO OTHER "Modern" English Translation CAN or WILL EVER Hold A Candle to THE KING JAMES VERSION OF THE AUTHORIZED HOLY BIBLE/SCRIPTURE(S) !

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News Item12/31/07 3:28 PM
rob  Find all comments by rob
KJ Believer, I don't remember the KJV or any other version saying read but STUDY to show yourself approave, rightly dividing, studying, observing the WORD of God. THe KJV, NABS, etc are ALL intrepretations & the Greek/Hebrew will bring us even closer to the truth
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News Item12/30/07 10:32 PM
KJB Bible Believer | Bible Belt  Find all comments by KJB Bible Believer
I am sooooooo shocked!!!!!!!!!! that people as intelligent, smart and religious as you are would sit and discuss this junk from the National Pornographic! Oops, I mean National Geographic. GOD HELP US !!!!!!!!!! I guess all the scriptures that are available in our hands are not enough for you to find the answer. I think you should check and see if you are saved....
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News Item12/25/07 7:26 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Considering this "Gospel of Judas" comes from Egypt, and like many other Coptic writings can be considered false. When it comes to religion or Evolution, National Geographic is erroneous also. The NASB will more than serve the purpose and has all the --inspired-- canon of the Bible. This can be said about several other versions as well.

I think we can safely assume that Judah willingly became the tool of the devil, and was not a demon, as others here have pointed out the fallacy of considering Judas a demon or The Devil.

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News Item12/24/07 11:06 AM
Abigail | Oregon  Contact via emailFind all comments by Abigail
The Article states:
"At the center of the debate is one passage in which Jesus calls Judas "daimon."
According to the National Geographic translation, "daimon" means "spirit."
DeConick, however, maintains that "daimon" should be translated to mean "demon," and that Jesus literally calls Judas a demon.
_____

Jesus Christ chose Judas Iscariot as one of the twelve knowing that he would betray Him. Yet, when Jesus sent out the twelve giving them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease, Judas Iscariot was granted the same power as the other disciples (Mat 10:1-4).

Judas Iscariot was a human being like any other person. He was a thief (John 12:6); He yielded to his own lust and greed and for thirty pieces of silver was used as an instrument of Satan in the betrayal of Jesus Christ.

The word "demon" is not found in the KJV. At a certain point in time Satan entered into Judas Iscariot (Luk 22:3; Joh 13:2) and put into his heart to betray the Lord.

Jesus said Judas was a devil (John 6:70), but He also called Peter "Satan" (Matt 16:23). Jesus was not saying they were the devil or Satan incarnate. He was addressing the evil spirit that was controlling them at that time.

In the love of Jesus Chris

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News Item12/24/07 10:16 AM
AntiVaticanistAmerican | U.S.A.  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
True, The Authorized Holy Bible/Scripture(s) DOES say that The Lord Jesus Christ said of Judas Iscariot:

"Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?" John 6:70

The Byzantine New Testament Greek Word For "devil" in this passage of John 6:70 is the Byzantine N.T. Greek Word "diabolos";

which literally means "a traducer", "false accuser" and/or "slanderer":

and does NOT necessarily confine the definition of "devil" to being that solely of a demon-spirit, evil-spirit and/or unclean-spirit.

In other words, Humans can also be "traducers", "false accusers", "slanderers" or "devils";

and yet NOT Necessarily Be "demons": in the Total Spiritual 'Classical' Sense of The Word "demon[-spirit(s)]", "devil[-spirit(s)]", "evil-spirit(s)", "unclean-spirit(s)", "filthy-spirit(s)", vile-spirit(s), etc.

So yes, Judas Iscariot was indeed a "traitor", "a traducer", "false accuser", "slanderer" or a "devil";

but he was definitely NOT a "demon-spirit", "evil-spirit", "unclean-spirit", "vile-spirit", "filthy-spirit", etc.

*NOTE: ALSO, There is A GREAT DIFFERENCE Between "Satan ENTERING into Judas Iscariot (or ANY Human)"; Commonly Called "Demon(ic) POSSESSION" or "Being Spiritually POSSESSED By/Of The Devil/a devil/demon-spirit": and BEING A DEVIL/DEMON-SPIRIT !

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News Item12/23/07 1:27 AM
Lurker | USA  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
"Judas Was a "Demon" After All"

Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. (Luke 22:3)

And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly. (John 13:27)

Seems redundant that Satan would enter in and possess himself.

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News Item12/23/07 12:45 AM
John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by John
"That initial interpretation of the newfound gospel says that
the apostle was following Jesus' orders when he gave Jesus
up to enemy soldiers. "

Interesting.

According to one of the four REAL gospel accounts, Jesus did
NOT order Judas to betray Him, but he DID "order" him to
hurry up and do what Judas himself was planning (betrayal).
See John 13:27.

"Judas was a traitor—even a "demon"—according to a new translation
of the recently revealed Gospel of Judas."

Judas was a DEMON??!!

I suppose that a hasty read of John 6:70 could lead someone to
believe this...and then write their own "gospel" account based
on the resulting bad hermanutics.

Judas was DEFINITELY a man, as Acts 1:18 most graphically
indicates!

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