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FRONT PAGE  |  10/19/2017
SUNDAY, DEC 2, 2007  |  17 comments
Clinton's 'Gutsy' Church Appearance Softens Evangelicals
Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton made what some called a “gutsy move” this week when she appeared at a conservative evangelical megachurch to talk about AIDS.

Initially, some felt ill at ease over the New York senator’s appearance at the Global Summit on AIDS and the Church hosted by Saddleback Valley Community Church because of her support for abortion and gay rights, which most evangelicals are opposed to. However, her emphasis on her Christian faith – which she regularly backed with Bible quotations – and concerns for the AIDS pandemic softened some evangelicals’ view of the candidate often painted by conservatives as liberal, calculative and cold.

A good reception at the influential megachurch might help Clinton make inroads among the evangelical voters.

“Sen. Clinton has the boldness to broaden her base…it shows she’s done her homework and she’s open to new ideas,” ...


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News Item12/10/07 12:20 AM
Gayle Pospeschil | Massachusetts USA  Contact via emailFind all comments by Gayle Pospeschil
1. Of course "she has her own faith" else she'd be a Christian. As for her "interest in what's going on in the churches" it always pays to be aware of what your enemies are up to. And Mrs Clinton is very skilled at tracking and tricking her enemies.

A wolf in sheep's clothing is still a wolf.

2. Now why did she "... promise[d] to “set a goal of ending all deaths from malaria in Africa” ... by the end of a second term, ..."? Is she also running for "President of Africa"? I note that the promise is to "set a goal" AFTER nearly EIGHT years in office (should she [terrifying nauseating thought] be elected and then re-elected ) and not actually to accomplish anything. So she sets up a little something for her successor to fail at for if the goal was set at the end of her first term then she'd have to work it in her second and take whatever flak would result.

3. A standing ovation?! Was she preaching to the choir or did she actually make [bribe] some converts?

4. "“We’re very religious in this country, ..."

Sad but true. If only we were very CHRISTIAN in this country.

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News Item12/5/07 10:14 PM
AntiVaticanistAmerican  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
Again: There are a few facts that you need to know about Hillary Clinton.

1-She's from Park Ridge, IL (A Republican Stronghold & Northwest Suburb of Chicago, IL).

2-She's a "United Methodist" (40 yrs. ago The "Evangelical United Brethren" Church merged with The "Methodist" Church to form the present "United Methodist" Church).

3-Her Father, Hugh Rodham, was an ardent supporter of Barry Goldwater in 1964, when he ran for U.S. President (Hence the 1992 Barry Goldwater endorsement of Bill Clinton [Hillary's husband].

4-She was raised as an ardent Old-Order Conservative Republican by her GOP Father--who voted Straight-ticket Conservative/Republican in the '50s/'60s/'70s/'80s--lest you forget that (covert Satanic-Vaticanist) Ronald Reagan was Barry Goldwater's speech-writer in the 1964 Presidential Race!

5-She is Hated by Today's Establishment Republicans with such Passion; not so much because she's presently Democratic: but because she is a "converted (Evangelical-Methodist) Old-Order Conservative-Republican ala Barry Goldwater"!

6-As a political-science major in College, she worked with The Special Prosecutor investigating President Richard Nixon's Watergate Scandal!

7-Although Politically "Liberal"; she's Religiously Conservative!

8-Quotes KJV ala VanImpe?!?

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News Item12/5/07 9:48 PM
dee | us  Find all comments by dee
R.K.

Satan can quote scripture and he did. Read Matthew 4:6 and Psalm 91:12. We need to be ever so careful of what we listen to. He is the father of lies like you say and we need to understand the context of the scripture so we are not deceived by scripture the evil ones do know and quote.

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News Item12/5/07 9:45 PM
AntiVaticanistAmerican | U.S.A.  Find all comments by AntiVaticanistAmerican
Posters: There are a few facts that you need to know about Hillary Clinton.

#1. She's from Park Ridge, IL (A Republican Stronghold & Northwest Suburb of Chicago, IL).

#2. She's a "United Methodist" (40 yrs. ago The "Evangelical United Brethren" Church merged with The "Methodist" Church to form the present "United Methodist" Church).

#3. Her Father, Hugh Rodham, was an ardent supporter of Barry Goldwater in 1964, when he ran for U.S. President (Hence the 1992 Barry Goldwater endorsement of Bill Clinton [Hillary's husband].

#4. She was raised as an ardent Old-Order Conservative Republican by her GOP Father--who voted Straight-ticket Conservative/Republican in the '50s/'60s/'70s/'80s--lest you forget that (covert Satanic-Vaticanist) Ronald Reagan was Barry Goldwater's speech-writer in the 1964 Presidential Race!

#5. She is Hated by Today's Establishment Republicans with such Passion; not so much because she's presently Democratic: but because she is a "converted (Evangelical-Methodist) Old-Order Conservative-Republican ala Barry Goldwater"!

#6. As a political-science major in College, she worked with The Special Prosecutor investigating President Richard Nixon's Watergate Scandal!

#7. Although Politically "Liberal"; she is Personally/Religiously Conservative!

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News Item12/5/07 8:57 PM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Find all comments by R. K. Borill
I beg to differ with you friends. If you listen carefully, the devil doesn't quote Scripture, he misquotes it. If we say that he quotes Scripture, then that means he tells the truth because the Holy Scripture is truth. But, Satan is a liar from the beginning, and he is the father of lies.
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News Item12/5/07 11:56 AM
R. K. Borill | Baton Rouge, Louisiana  Find all comments by R. K. Borill
Leave it to the media to define for us what an "Evangelical" is in truth. The liberal media should first investigate if Saddleback is indeed preaching the "good news" before they pronounce such a blessing. But, that would presuppose that the media even knows where to start looking. When you have become all things to the world, you are lost to the truth and the place to begin.
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News Item12/3/07 9:48 AM
KK | USA ---- Veritas Vincit !!!  Find all comments by KK
Her emphasis on her Christian faith – which she regularly backed with Bible quotations – and concerns for the AIDS pandemic softened some evangelicals’ view of the candidate often painted by conservatives as liberal, calculative and cold

Her emphasis on her Christian faith ???

Her Christian Faith is nonexistent !!!

Her charade softened some evangelicals’ view ???

All those claiming to have relationship with The Father, The Son And The Holy Ghost could not in good conscience entertain the idea of voting for **HELL-ary Clinton** !!!

HELL-ary Clinton for President ??? --- --- --- -- NO WAY !!!

She is liberal, calculative and cold !!! -- -- --

Her voting record is matched only by Ted Kennedy's liberally hell-bent voting record -- they are two tWiStEd birds of the same feather...

If "We The People" are stupid enough to vote for someone like *H.R.Clinton* then "We" deserve the HELL her and her Democratic cohorts will bring...

"We" have far too many parasites in DC --- IT'S TIME TO DO A REALLY GOOD HOUSE CLEANING !!!

________ E N O U G H ____ I S ____ E N O U G H ______

Veritas Vincit !!!

KK

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News Item12/3/07 7:58 AM
Uncle Raisin | Cyber-space  Contact via emailFind all comments by Uncle Raisin
I don't understand what was so "gutsy" about her appearance? She shows up and talks about how great she is, and how much she has done, and plans to do, about AIDS, then she leaves. What "guts?"

Uncle Raisin
www.UncleRaisin.com
"Raisin" the Standard Against Injustice

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News Item12/3/07 3:14 AM
Mark M. | GA in USA  Contact via emailFind all comments by Mark M.
Who are we going to vote for then?

I've already written that I like both Ron Paul and Mike Hukabee, but I'm a realist they aren't going to be the main Republican candidate. McCain is so closely associated with Bush that he would have a snowballs chance even against Hillary or Obama. Romney (sp?)is mormon and as Christians we shouldn't vote for him. I call Juliani (sp?) a democrat in all but name...so what is an independent conservative to do?

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News Item12/2/07 9:32 PM
Dessie | WV  Find all comments by Dessie
Jon Barr wrote:
You don't think Satan could quote scripture? I'm not saying that Hillary is Satan, but if all you have to do is quote some scripture to be considered a Christian, then that would make 99% of this world Christian. I have even heard an Athiest quote scripture.
Amen and God bless Lurker and Seaton
for their sense of humor... All this
is a real JOKE!! Double Standards
is apparent in all the candidates and
especially in Hillary. She definitely
has NO fear of God....
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News Item12/2/07 5:22 PM
Wayne  Find all comments by Wayne
'Apparently the devil loves to attend church,'

'the devils also believe and tremble' James 2: 19

Sadly mamy evangelicals have not even the demons' understanding of the thrice Holy God for where is their own godly fear?

hebrews 12: 28 let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and****godly fear****

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News Item12/2/07 4:42 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Good Comments about Satan quoting Scripture. You've also reminded me one of the places Jesus wonderfully cast demons out of someone was in the local synagoge, the church of the day if you will. Apparently the devil loves to attend church, especially if he is invited in by the local false teacher (wolf in sheep's clothing) behind the pulpit. Why the devil probably feels right at home where the world's music (which he probably helped inspire) is being played to entertainment the lost.
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News Item12/2/07 3:15 PM
John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by John
dee wrote:
Satan can quote scripture.
Yep. He (Satan) quoted from the Psalms
during the third temptation of Christ
in the wilderness.
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News Item12/2/07 2:32 PM
dee | US  Find all comments by dee
Satan can quote scripture.
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News Item12/2/07 2:26 PM
Jon Barr | Glen Mills, PA  Find all comments by Jon Barr
You don't think Satan could quote scripture? I'm not saying that Hillary is Satan, but if all you have to do is quote some scripture to be considered a Christian, then that would make 99% of this world Christian. I have even heard an Athiest quote scripture.
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News Item12/2/07 2:06 PM
Lurker | USA  Protected NameFind all comments by Lurker
Seaton wrote:
Ah!! You see folks Hillary IS a Christian after all. Now get out there and make her president of the US of A.
That's easy for you to say sitting on the other side of the pond!!
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News Item12/2/07 1:43 PM
Seaton  Find all comments by Seaton
"However, her emphasis on her ***Christian faith – which she regularly backed with Bible quotations*** – and concerns for the AIDS pandemic softened some evangelicals’ view of the candidate often painted by conservatives as liberal, calculative and cold."

Ah!! You see folks Hillary IS a Christian after all. Now get out there and make her president of the US of A.

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