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SUNDAY, JUN 17, 2007  |  9 comments
Southern Baptist split over politics
SAN ANTONIO --A small but vocal number of pastors believe the denomination is too cozy with Republicans and too political in general. By flirting with the line separating good citizenship and a grab for power, they say, a denomination already experiencing flat membership risks alienating more people.

Others contend such talk might inspire Southern Baptists to retreat from the public square and cede ground on urgent social issues such as abortion.

If anything, the debate is likely to become even more magnified in coming months because no one Republican candidate has captured the conservative evangelical imagination - and all of them are trying. ...


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KK | USA ---- Veritas Vincit !!!  Find all comments by KK
Mike from New York

Re: Your post 6/18/07 11:47 PM

............................................... TOUCHE' !!!

This mind-set is proof of just how DUMBED DOWN ReLiGiOn has become...

And it is further proof as to why America has become such a Godless IMMORAL CESSPOOL --- with a Government filled with Godless PRETENDERS ---

On the whole this is a people who have LOST ALL SENSE OF ***RIGHT*** AND ***wrong*** ---

a people WITHOUT CONSCIENCE ---

a GROSSLY ReLiGiOuS people who KNOW NOT GOD ---

this is a people whose hands are covered with THE BLOOD OF THE INNOCENT (Millions Upon Multiplied Millions of The Aborted [MURDERED] CREATIONS OF GOD Who Are Even Now CRYING OUT FOR JUSTICE) ---

this is a people who have LOST their MORAL COMPASS ---

a DAMNABLE people who Know Not And Hold NO RESPECT FOR ***MODESTY***, ***DECENCY*** OR ***INNOCENCE*** ---

a DEPRAVED people who Will Not SO MUCH AS Raise A Brow To THE EVIL homosexual indoctrination of their own CHILDREN ---

a people whose hearts are filled WITH WANTONNESS ---

a people constantly in search of EVERY CONVENIENT TRUTH ---

etc...

This is a people who can't read the writing on the wall --- that they are about TO REAP their COMEUPPANCE --- WOE TO this BLIND AND HEEDLESS people

Hmmm

KK

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News Item6/19/07 12:04 PM
John | San Jose, CA  Find all comments by John
When people ask me why I'm a conservative I tell them I used to be
liberal.

When they ask why I changed I tell them it's because I wanted to
be a more faithful Christian--NOT because I wanted to be conservative.

But in the process of becoming a more Biblical Christian, I discovered
that the Biblical perspective resonates more with the conservative
world-view than the liberal, therefore the latter eventually had to
go.

I don't mean to suggest that "democrats are unsaved & unfaithful" but
I would urge any/all people who consider themselves politically "left
of center" AND "Christian" to take another good look at themselves
to see if their position in life is as consistent with God's word
as it should be.

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News Item6/19/07 6:53 AM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Jim
We should weep over the SBC and pray for their repentance and in many cases their salvation but I don't believe we can rightfully defend the SBC. As to John Ankerberg I am familar with his ministry but can't say I feel the same way about not naming names regarding the SBC.
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News Item6/18/07 11:47 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
"Mike from New York, you said nothing I disagree with at all unless you mean the corporate body of the church is suppose to do that?"

Corporate bodies don't vote as such, Jim, individual, responsible citizens do. What is the "corporate body of the church" composed of?

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News Item6/18/07 2:52 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mike from New York, you said nothing I disagree with at all unless you mean the corporate body of the church is suppose to do that?

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?sermonID=10505121650

Or something just to read, "The Purpose of the Local Church and Community Issues"

http://www.ihcc.org/article_print.php?art_id=Z0ED7n1mQByn5awPx4F0lrQGZ

Michael, I don't know why I want to overly strain myself defending the SBC since I'm no way attached to it. But you might say a spokesman for the SBC, John Ankerberg, Masonry,
http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/apologetics/AP4W0401.pdf
Just one over half a dozen articles, I would almost call it an obsession.
Abortion,
http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/archives-si.htm
He may even have more articles on that than Masonry.
Ecumenism, a Mike Gendron article, I should give it a good read.
http://www.johnankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/roman-catholicism/RC2W0600.pdf
The one thing that Ankerberg, the well-known SBC apologist does NOT attack is any fellow Baptist such as Rick Warren who of course should be brought to task.

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News Item6/17/07 4:26 PM
Michael Hranek | Endicott, New York  Find all comments by Michael Hranek
Interesting

I guess a "split" over Biblical Inerrancy, the Masonic Lodge, Rick Warren and Ecumenism haven't been that important to the SBC. And of course voting for democrats who promote abortion hasn't been much of a problem among SBC pastors either.

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News Item6/17/07 3:55 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
I'm thankful for living in America, too. And we should render unto Caesar what is Caesar's. That is Biblical. But in America, it isn't Caesar that has the authority to decide what that is, if by "Caesar" you mean the government. The government is, after all, employed by the people. Government of, by, and for the people. Remember? That's the law. I think government workers should obey the law, and stay within the confines of their duly constituted authority. If they don't, Caesar should have rendered unto him what is Caesar's, i.e. early retirement.
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News Item6/17/07 3:34 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
That "vocal minority" should be in the majority.

http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?currSection=sermonssource&sermonID=11005171618

"Read the booklet, RENDERING UNTO CEASAR. [The booklets section of the www.ihcc.org website has it.] I don't speak out about issues because they have become political. If there is something that we are to address we will come across it as we go through the Word of God. We do have responsibilities in areas not directly to the Word of God. If our lives are built upon the Word of God, being a part of God's people, if we are living under the Word following the direction of the Holy Spirit, then you will not need me to tell you what to do in areas that the Scripture does not address. It is not my responsibility to tell you what to do in areas that the Scripture does not directly address. This does not mean that sin is not an important aspect of individual, national, or world life.

There are very few laws we can't obey but paying taxes is not a law to be broken. Laws bring protection. I am thankful for living in America. I am pleased to be able to preach the Gospel."

http://www.ihcc.org/images/booklets/pdf/L121.pdf

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News Item6/17/07 1:40 PM
Mr. MaGoo | =oo=  Find all comments by Mr. MaGoo
Now that is very unusual.

Party politics doesn't usually split groups of people up.

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