Lance Those have nothing to do with Dr p. Anything I have put down as you see are from scripture,and not made up from man,or anything from tradition. All I have done is shown up your AND GGs lies about believing Jn 6 literally,and all you can say about it is"I'll go with the papish church on this one". Why even bother coming on this site if all your going to do is be shown up as a child of your father the devil. There is still hope for you Lance to repent of following man made religion and worship of a false wafer god,but we will still pray that the LORD will save you out of the papish church. "But the fearful,and unbelieving,and the abominable,and murderers,and whoremongers,and sorcerers,and Idolaters,and all Liars,shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone;which is the second death"REV 21-8. "CHRIST hath redeemed us from the curse of the law,being made a curse for US:for it is written,Cursed is every one that hangeth on a Tree"GAL 3-13.
There are a lot of divisions under the pope's rule: traditionalists, progressives, evangelicals, sedevacantists, charismatics, feminists, etc, all interpreting the Bible, catechisms, popes' writings, and other documents of the Roman Catholic Church. Many and maybe most Protestant churches have inter-congregational fellowship in one way or another. One good way to see this is to look at the local Christian newsletter in a large city.
Lance, if the RCC is the only one that can correctly interpret the Bible, through the pope, i"m assuming, then why have popes over the years changed rulings of previous popes? Did Jesus change His mind? Did He realize their was a more profitable ($) way to do things? C'mon, wake up and think for yourself or better yet, get saved and let the Holy Spirit guide your thinking. And don't come at me with the 33,000 different denominations thing. Most of these differ on smaller points of theology and the ones that deny the fundamentals of the faith aren't even christian.
Lance So AGAIN you make yourself a hypocrite,not long ago you said you took Jn 6 literally,now you say your not taking it literally,as by someone else doing something else they can gain someone entrance into heaven. Well if that is the case,then your infallible pope only need to take the wafer god once,then everyone can go to heaven by what he has done. You see the stupidity of your staement Lance. To get out of one lie,you have to make up bigger lies,and as we see,NOT ONE WORD OF SCRIPTURE. While we are on JN 6,here is some more erroneous doctrines you have to circumvent and tell lies about,or just put it down to GOD being able to do what ever HE wants,and I have proved that papish lie wrong. (1)That CHRISTS body came down from heaven(v51). (2)That all who recieve the LORDS supper are saved(v54). That whosoever does not recieve the LORDS supper cannot be saved(v53). (3)If Jn 6 is taken literally would contradict the truth that HE was born of the vergin mary(v51). (4)Would mean there are two ways of salvation,one by sacrament the other by faith. But hey Lance no doubt you will come back with more made up lies. We know one thing for sure you won't find any thing in GODS WORD to help you.
Lance, I know you won't understand this because the natural man cannot understand the things of the Spirit, but I will write it for the benefit of others, and maybe God, by His grace, will open your eyes to see it as well. Jesus Christ did not die to "draw down on humanity the graces gained by Jesus' sacrifice". What you are saying there is that we can save others by performing on their behalf and also that personal responsibility doesn't exist. The Bible says, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved". Personal responsibility is in the Bible from front to back. You and I cannot "save" someone else. Jesus will say at some point in the future to some folks, "Depart from Me, I never knew you". Again, it is personal. The sacrifice of Christ was for individuals, and it is by faith in the finished work of Christ that individuals are born again. Your stuff about baptism, first communion, etc. is all a bunch of bunk made up by a bunch of demonic, power hungry popes who have nothing better to do than make people twice the sons of hell that they are. Unfortunately, by your own words, you prove yourself to be one
Albert, I guess your reference to Jn 6 means that a "papish" child who dies before receiving his first communion should go to hell.
The reason you draw that conclusion is because you think you are (or your pastor is) the first person ever to read the Bible, and that therefore your understanding of what it says is correct.
Those unable to receive Christ in the Eucharist are still able to be saved through their desire to do God's will. They are able to benefit from the worthy communions received by millions of others, who thereby draw down on humanity the graces gained by Jesus' sacrifice.
Small children, unable even to desire to do God's will, also benefit from Jesus' sacrifice through their baptism.
With your Koranic view of the Scriptures, you will ask: Where does it say that in the Bible?
Lance "Your right Albert.Jesus Christ is the head of the catholic church.and you correctly observe that jesus cannot be sacraficed again."
Then Why do you make yourself out to be hypocritical by saying"your opinions are so close to (papish)teaching." When what I stated is not papish teaching,as you believe the pope is the head of the papish church(creed of pius 4th no 10) and CHRIST is sacrificed again on your alters millions of times a day(creed of pius 4th no 5).?
If you say it is a continuing sacrifice,then show where it is stated in scripture as a continuing sacrafice,as the scriptures I have say he was sacrificed once and that it is not still going on! btw,why didn't you comment on what I said about Jn 6 and the papish child being in hell ?
But Hey Like GG and JY Thats Why "ye must be born again"
It's amazing how much we get on this subject and just how beligerent our RCC adherents can be. GG posts like he is some kind of college professor who knows absolutely everything and by his attitude and unwillingness to learn shows he knows absolutely nothing. Lance, the split personality RCC/Protestant can't figure out which group he truly belongs to, and JY doesn't have a clue. It's great for the fun and games, but boys, one day you're going to stand before this Christ that your beloved RCC church defiles and denies and Mary won't be there to save you. Today is the day, before it's to late!
In 1983, statistician and Anglican clergyman David Barrett's study, The Oxford World Christian Encyclopedia, identified 20,800 Christian denominations, "with a projected 22,190 by 1985. . . The present net increase is 270 denominations each year, or 5 new ones a week." The United Nations released a figure of 23,000 Protestant "competing and often contradictory denominations" (World Census of Religious Activities, U.N. Information Center, NY, 1989). Barrett's 2001 World Christian Encyclopedia puts the number of Protestant denominations in the world at 33,820 -- all based on the same 66-book Bible -- with seven books and parts of Esther and Daniel cut out of it by Martin Luther.
Some Prots "accept" the deuterocanonical books, but don't use them to establish doctrine. I personally have no problem with them and the original KJV(which I have and use) contains them. I have not read the entire volume of the deuterocanonicals. Such a position taken by some Prots is not a new thing in church history. Jerome had a similar position toward these books.
This is why they are known as Deutero-canonical books. Which means secondly chosen, as opposed to the other books which were termed 'inspired' first. But, the fact was, they were determined to be inspired by Churchmen WITH Authority from God. Therefore, amateurs (Protestant Reformers) without that Authority can not resend that decision.
Harty Har har GG, You are so funny. Have you ever read those books? The authors make silly claims like if you don't really want to believe this, you don't have to. Can you imagine Paul saying that? Inspired writers didn't say such foolishness. They were inspired.
Ah GG,because you are in that big a hurry to spit your vitriol nonesense,that you didn't read even what I posted. So read again correctly if what I said is wrong(take into account what you believe about JN6),then come back with your tripe so I can prove what you believe is nonesense. btw,show us were in scripture that CHRIST was born on the 25th december,or even show a "christmass" more popish tripe,unfounded in scripture and made up by man.