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Choice News SATURDAY, MAY 22, 2004  |  19 comments
Girl pleads to retailer for modest clothing


Ella Gunderson wrote Nordstrom executives, who promise more modest fashions. (Photo: Seattle Times)

The president of a leading retailer promises to offer more modest clothing to youth after receiving a letter from a concerned 11-year-old girl.

Ella Gunderson's missive to Seattle-based Nordstrom made it all the way to Pete Nordstrom, an executive vice president and president of the company's full-line stores, the Seattle Times reported.

"Dear Nordstrom," wrote Gunderson, of Redmond, Wash. "I am an eleven-year-old girl who has tried shopping at your store for clothes (in particular jeans), but all of them ride way under my hips, and the next size up is too big and falls down.

"I see all of these girls who walk around with pants that show their belly button and underwear," she continued. "Your clearks sugjest that there is only one look. If that is true, then girls are suppost to walk around half naked. I think that you should change that." (sic) ...


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News Item2/13/11 2:08 AM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
quest for meekness wrote:
Quite true, God will.
Good Wills are one of the only places I have been able to find modest clothing,reasonably priced but they are becoming more like Target since they obtain their overflow and irregulars.
I had one good solid jumper for years that was both modest and practical so I wanted to replace it. I contacted the retailer and they suggested I look to a Good Will for older models, saying they did not have, nor could they obtain the pattern I requested. I had already looked for some time in Good Wills. On-line home businesses are beyond my budget.
God worked it out. I found a woman in a neighboring state who did sewing and she took the jumper apart and made a pattern. She has offered to help me refresh my sewing skills for assisting her and has been very generous in discounting material costs.
Excellent testimony sister!
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News Item2/12/11 10:44 AM
Modesty  Find all comments by Modesty
A couple of good resources;

http://www.modestapparelusa.com/

http://www.purelymodest.com/

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News Item2/12/11 10:25 AM
quest for meekness  Find all comments by quest for meekness
Jessica Dawson wrote:
Not all women can afford new clothing, so be clothed with righteous in Christ and God will do the rest!
Quite true, God will.

Good Wills are one of the only places I have been able to find modest clothing,reasonably priced but they are becoming more like Target since they obtain their overflow and irregulars.

I had one good solid jumper for years that was both modest and practical so I wanted to replace it. I contacted the retailer and they suggested I look to a Good Will for older models, saying they did not have, nor could they obtain the pattern I requested. I had already looked for some time in Good Wills. On-line home businesses are beyond my budget.

God worked it out. I found a women in a neighboring state who did sewing and she took the jumper apart and made a pattern. She has offered to help me refresh my sewing skills for assisting her and has been very generous in discounting material costs.

I was working in a backroom one day when a politician came into her shop campaigning. She was the only business in that city that was doing better that year. God provides for all his obedient subjects but he is so good he meets the needs of all His creatures. This is quite observable in her shop in particu

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News Item2/12/11 9:34 AM
E.J's Husband  Find all comments by E.J's Husband
coora wrote:
1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
People who use this verse to speak against women wearing pants should consider if it's OK for women to braid their hair, wear gold or pearls, or wear expensive clothing. Please check the context of scripture.
That's a new one on me. I havn't heard anyone using that verse to teach women should not wear pants. It's ususaly the Dt. passage people quote. Of course the intent of that verse is that men should dress like men and women like women. It does not expresly forbid women wearing pants.
Gender distinction is the issue.

Of course modesty is the issue of this news article.

Bless this girl for her stand

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News Item2/12/11 4:34 AM
coora | Australia  Find all comments by coora
1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

People who use this verse to speak against women wearing pants should consider if it's OK for women to braid their hair, wear gold or pearls, or wear expensive clothing. Please check the context of scripture.

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News Item2/12/11 2:55 AM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
If a woman does wear pants: wearing longer shirts, or like some women, wear a decorative shorter wrap around skirt over the pants.

Just Long Shirts

1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Matthew 6:27-29 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

1 Timothy 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

In my time I have seen women with long skirts mince around like harlots, and I have seen women in pants who show modesty by their chaste behaviour. Of course modesty coupled with chaste behaviour and virtue, along with all godliness is the ideal. Not all women can afford new clothing, so be clothed with righteous in Christ and God will do the rest! Your godly countenance, will speak volumes to those who behold your visage.

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News Item2/11/11 11:27 PM
Jessica Dawson | Canada  Find all comments by Jessica Dawson
Women do have a responsibility to dress modestly. However, I do believe that every person: man or woman, has a responsibility if they are having a problem with lust, to be heavily involved in prayer.

I have been in Churches where the women are all dressed very modestly: And yet the men in the congregation, have fashionable hair cuts, smooth shaves, fashionable suites and look pretty "GQ". All things that women who are worldly, may see as attractive.

What many men consider godly for themselves to wear, looks nothing like what Jesus would have worn. Think of women wearing burkas, men got so carried away, that women's faces were not permitted to be seen.

We all need to pray that we not be led into temptation. This, so that we will not be made to stumble, no matter what anyone is wearing.

"the LORD seeth not as man seeth ; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart."

Matthew 23:28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Remember friends, it's not enough to appear righteous. God bless!

May God bless the little girl, and may she ever have the bravery and modesty that God has bestowed upon her.

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News Item2/11/11 9:38 AM
E.J's. Husband  Find all comments by E.J's. Husband
Katherine wrote:
No where in the bible does it say that women and girls can not wear pants .your view is wrong.
Hi Katherine. I didn't see where anyone said something about wearing pants. Most of the posts ar about being modest, and not drees like what the World thinks is cool.
No the Bible doesn't specificly say a girl can not wear pants. What people are probably refering to, is where Leviticus says a woman should not wear what pertains to a man, or a man that which pertains to a woman. Girls should look like girls, and boys like boys.

But what if there were clear teaching in the bible that says a girl shoud never wear pants? Would you willingly, from your heart do what it says?

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News Item2/11/11 7:46 AM
Katherine  Contact via emailFind all comments by Katherine
No where in the bible does it say that women and girls can not wear pants .your view is wrong.
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News Item10/9/04 7:17 AM
Jolee | Pennsylvania  
Thank you Becky , The site you suggested really exceeded my expectations ! God bless and thank you again .
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News Item9/24/04 11:30 AM
Jolee | Pennsylvania  
i know first hand about shopping for young girls and for myself i also agree with robert on the thing he said about the retailers making a bundle if they started catering to us as well as the other fashion-o-holics and really commend this sweet girl for her efforts sorry about the huge run on sentence and lack of proper grammer guess i need huked on foniks or something thank you all and have a great day in the Lord
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News Item6/5/04 12:05 AM
Becky Cohen | Florida  
Modest clothing. Beautiful modest clothing. In the Ella Gunderson story, the press failed to mention the best online modest clothing store.

www.hannahlise.com

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News Item6/2/04 7:04 PM
ken welsch | Iowa  Contact via email
I agree with Robert, Steve. She does all right. I know some grown-ups whose grammar abilities is atrocious.

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News Item6/2/04 5:17 PM
Robert Perry | Chaska MN  Contact via email
Steve, I know quite a few PhDs whose grammar and spelling are worse. I know a few teachers as well who have difficulties with this.

Long & short; she isn't doing bad for an 11 year old.

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News Item6/2/04 4:03 PM
Steve | California  
Ella should worry less about clothing and more about her education. Her spelling abilities, even for a fifth grader, is atrocious.
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News Item5/27/04 1:09 PM
Rev. Loraine Glueck | Springville, UT  
I am grateful for such remarkable children like the girl in this story. I have three daughters, and shopping for them has gotten more difficult in the past few years. However, it isn't simply a matter of religion. I believe there is something seriously wrong with an industry that attempts to sexualize children. I can see no good reason to market halter tops and low- rise jeans for eight year olds. Just as disgusting is the way violence toward women is marketed toward young boys in everything from cartoons to rap music.
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News Item5/27/04 12:13 PM
Robert Perry | Chaska MN  Contact via email
I'll believe it when I see it. It's a very interesting dichotomy between men's and women's clothing departments. The salesmen I've worked with know that pants fasten at the waist, tight & see-through garments are called "undergarments," and that the purpose of clothing is to hide the unpresentable parts, not display or point to them.

The retailer that figures this out for women's clothing may make a bundle from ladies who are tired of putting themselves on display.

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News Item5/27/04 11:36 AM
Marti An Windisch | Blairsville GA  Contact via email
I so appreciate Ella's comments and her desire to dress in a modest way to honor her God and Savior. As Romans 12:1,2 states - "it is the least we can do in response to what He has done for us." - to have a transformed mind about the way we dress.
The world says "dress to impress & seduce".
God says "be modest".
It is also my believe that His word says that women should not wear "pants" - clothing that pertains to a man. (Deut 22:5) Why? Pants reveal a part of a womans anatomy that is VERY attractive to the opposite sex! We are not to defraud our brothers by causing them to lust - Jesus said that lusting was the same as actually comitting adultery. Do we, Christian women, want to be guilty of possibly causing lust in any man particularly a Christian brother?
Think on these things - let the Holy Spirit be your guide into all truth on this matter.
I was challanged by a loving Christian brother at one point and I spent several months searching the scriptures and watching men's reactions to women in pants. Even "loose" fitting pants reveal a lot when a woman leans over - check it out in the mirror.
Let's commit to honoring first our Holy God and then our brothers in Christ by our modest dress & conduct.
Thank's Ella for your committment.
In Christ Jesus, Marti An
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News Item5/22/04 9:51 PM
Discriminating Shopper | Pennsylvania  
Don't look for Norstrom's to stand on principle. They'll say what they need to in order to make a buck. What a great publicity opportunity this is.

There ARE places where modst clothing can be found.

For example: http://www.apronsnthings.com. We're looking forward to their opening this summer and plan to buy often.

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