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Looking at our world from a theological perspective, this is the Theology Central Podcast, making theology central. Good afternoon, everyone. It is Thursday, July the 13th, 2023. It is currently 426 p.m. Central Time, and I'm coming to you live from the Theology Central studio located right here in Abilene, Texas. And about 30 minutes ago, maybe 40 minutes ago, I pulled back up in my driveway, got out of my car, walked into my home before, and I took about 40 minutes before I came up here to the studio, but you know where I had been prior to pulling back up in my driveway? Where did I go? What did I leave my studio and my home for? I went to see the new Mission Impossible movie. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part One. Oh, it was great. It was wonderful. But when I left the theater, one question, or maybe two questions, were bouncing around my brain. And that question is, is there ever an inappropriate place to share the gospel? Is there ever an inappropriate place to share the gospel? How about this? Is there ever an inappropriate way to share the gospel? When it comes to sharing the gospel, is there an inappropriate place, an inappropriate time, an inappropriate way? Is there some etiquette that is required for sharing the gospel? Now, on one hand, anyone who wants to share the gospel, they want to tell people that there is a God, that we are sinners, and that Christ died for us, and putting our faith in Him is how we is our only hope and we can have eternal life and we can have salvation in the finished work of Jesus Christ. That is obviously a wonderful thing. It's a great thing. And you don't ever want to diminish anyone's fire. You don't ever want to diminish anyone's zeal or passion. But is there ever a time where you're like, hey, that's just the inappropriate time. That's an inappropriate place. That's an inappropriate way. Now, you get 10 Christians together, I don't think you're ever going to find agreement on this, because some people are like, it doesn't matter the time, it doesn't matter the place, it doesn't matter where, how, as long as you're presenting the gospel. And others may go, I think that's a little classless. I think it's just... It seems wrong. That's the wrong place. That's the wrong time. Where do you, if you were to make a spectrum, like, you know, let's say one is anywhere, any place, anyhow, any, any way, shape, form, time, it doesn't matter. Number one, like if you're on this kind of spectrum, would you be like at number one, share the gospel anywhere, any place, anytime, anyway? Or would you be more like, well, would you be like a five or a six going, well, Sometimes, maybe not, or would you be like a strong 10 going, no, there is clearly, clearly defined places and times and ways in which it is inappropriate to share the gospel. Where would you find yourself on that spectrum? Now you may be asking, Why did you leave the movie theater after seeing Mission Impossible, what, Dead Reckoning? I don't want to give the wrong name of the movie. Let me make sure I get it correctly. I don't want to mess this up. Yeah, Dead Reckoning, part one. Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning, part one. How could I leave? Mission impossible, dead reckoning, thinking about when or when is it not appropriate to share the gospel. You may be saying, well, something had to happen in the theater. And well, something did. Let me tell you how this all went down. Arrived at the theater. My usual arriving early, because I always do so, arrived early. Got me a large popcorn. No butter, because I can't stand butter on my popcorn. a large bottle of ice cold Dasani, a bottle of ice cold water, all right? So I got my water, I got a large popcorn, 562 napkins, because you always run out of napkins, all right? I make my way into the theater, all right? I find my seat. Oh, there's not very many people there. It's gonna be awesome. Can't wait. Set everything down and I'm like, you know, Right before this movie starts, that's a large bottle of water. I better go to the restroom. Let me go to the bathroom. So, I walk into the men's bathroom. As soon as you walk in, there's kind of like a wall there. You kind of go around the wall. There's the sinks, right? There's the sinks. I think right behind you on that wall that when you kind of walk in, the first thing you see is this wall. On the backside of that wall, paper towels. I think they got some of the, you know, air blowers to dry your hands, kind of right there. And then you kind of go around the corner and there is the urinals, right? It's a men's restroom. There's all of these urinals. So I choose a urinal to walk up to, right? I don't even think there's anyone else in the bathroom at this time. So I walk up to the urinal and I get ready to use the restroom. And I look and at the top of the urinal, on the top of the urinal, I see it. And as soon as I see it laying there, I'm like, I know what that is. I have it right here. I have it right here. Does anybody know what it is? It's a Jack Chick track. Now if you for some reason don't know what a Jack Chick track is, you probably should look one up because they're very famous, especially typically maybe in the independent fundamental Baptist world, maybe some Pentecostal possibly circles, maybe. But the Jack Chick world, I was exposed to the Jack Chick world way back Way back in the 1990s, there was a bookstore called, I think it was called Divine Truth Bookstore in Papillion, Nebraska. And they sold a lot of content from Jack Chick. They had tracks, Jack Chick comic books, Jack Chick books. I mean, anything dealing, basically coming from his ministry, they had like an entire section there. And so I purchased a lot of it because I was told, you know, Jack Chick, that's great. That's how you share the gospel. You want to buy as many of these tracks as possible. And this one is called A Love Story. A Love Story. You would just have to see the Jack Chick track to really understand what they look like. If you go to, is it chick, www.chick.com backslash samples. www.chick.com backslash samples. You can see samples and a price list of the Jack Chick tracks. Now in many homes, especially in the 1990s, Independent Fundamental Baptist, if kids came to their house for trick-or-treating, you would put Jack Chick tracks. in the kids' bags. Yeah, I mean, is that appropriate? I mean, the kid's coming to your house for candy and you're like, here's a Jack Chick track. Go home and read it and believe in Jesus. I don't know. Now maybe they would throw in candy with it, but I don't know. Is that the right place or time? We could have these discussions, but they end up all over the place. I just, as soon as I saw it, I cannot speak for you. As soon as I saw it, I was like, On top of a urinal? Is that—does that not just feel, I don't know, like, inappropriate? Like, here's the gospel, and I'm going to lay it on top of a urinal. Like, I mean, I didn't even want to pick it up. I didn't even want to touch it, but I thought I would at least have it here because, one, And maybe you may think that I'm wrong. I just felt that it was inappropriate to leave it there, that it made, to me, it was like a, it was like it made the gospel feel like, just yuck. I was like, I have to remove this. So I moved it. And when I wanted to talk about it here, so I wanted to have it here in front of me. So if anyone, you know, questioned it, I have the actual proof. Now, after I finished at the urinal, I went over to the sink. and there was a one on the sink. Now, on the sink, it didn't bother me as much, right? Because there's the sink, right? Okay, that feels a little bit better, right? It feels a little bit better on the sink. It just seemed inappropriate on a urinal. Now, I did not look anywhere else in the bathroom to see where else they may be. I just felt like on top of a urinal, like, I don't know. What do you think? Do you think that that's an inappropriate place to place a gospel track? Now, a love story. Okay, someone just said, not sure how I feel about that, to be honest. Maybe by the sink or the door. See, the sink or the door, I feel a little bit better. But even that, you're placing a gospel track in the bathroom. I don't know. I know that. It just made me feel like if anyone sees that, like, I hate to say this, Look, I'm just being honest with you. I'm just being honest with you. It just made it feel, I felt embarrassed. Like, I hate to say it. I know some of you are gonna get very upset with me, but I just felt embarrassed. Like, it just made me feel like, ooh, Christianity is coming across like, you know, classless, tasteless. Like, it's just like, This is not, there's no tact here. There's no, there's gotta be a more appropriate way than placing it on top of a urinal or even inside a bathroom. Now, again, on the sink, I left the one on the sink. I left the one on the sink because, but I just made me, as soon as I, I mean, as soon as I started walking up to the urinal, I was like, you gotta be kidding me. I knew what it was because I mean, I know the Jack Chick tracks. I think I've read every single one ever published. I've used these, I used to put them in different places, but I never placed it in a bathroom. Now, to be fair though, in my early Christian life, I did do something highly inappropriate and highly illegal, okay? Highly, and I think we did leave it, I don't know exactly what we did. Okay, so here's what happened. When I used to drive to Cisco Junior College, I would drive right past the Taylor County Coliseum in Abilene, Texas. And back in the late 80s and that time, the Taylor County Coliseum, someone just left an R, okay. I don't know what that means in chat. Taylor County Coliseum. All kinds of concerts used to come there at that time. Now, as time moved forward, bands would kind of skip over Abilene, because Abilene is only a city of about 110,000-120,000 people. as time moved on, would just skip over Abilene. They would go Dallas, maybe they would go Lubbock or, you know, San Antonio. They just would skip Abilene. But at that time, most of the bands had no problem coming to Abilene. It was almost always a sellout. And I saw, I mean, I could go from band after band after band after band. I saw there at Taylor County Coliseum in Abilene, Texas. So, but I'm a Christian now. And I'd drive every day past the Taylor County Coliseum. I'm on the highway. The Coliseum is down off the highway. And on the way there and the way back, I would look over and see the sign, and it was saying, Poison Coming. Now, poison was kind of a glam rock, hair metal band at that time. I don't know if you want to call them metal. A hair rock band. I definitely wouldn't call them metal. Glam rock, I think, would be better. Okay, so poison was coming to town. And I'm like, okay. Now, my first thought wasn't, ooh, the ungodly music, Satan is taking over the country. My thing was, at that time, tickets were always general admission for these huge concerts, meaning you bought your ticket, you you got a seat based on when you got there. So, I mean, you would always get to the Coliseum. I mean, for me growing up, my mom had a rule, concert day was you did not go to school on concert day, okay? So, she would always allow us to skip school. And then she would take us and drop us off in front of the Taylor County Coliseum, like at noon. And you know, the doors don't even open till six or seven. She would just drop us off and we're there. We were young, probably. That's the way it was. I mean, I was really little and just get dropped off and I would hang out in front. I would go right up to the doors, sit down and just sit there all day waiting for the doors to open. So I knew that that place, you know, early in the afternoon, there's going to be thousands of people just lined up. There's no place for them to go. There's nowhere for them to go. They can't get out of line. So I'm like, let's buy a couple of thousand tracks and let's go, I'll take my Bible, I'll just have a bag of tracts with me, and I'll just go and hand out the tracts. I'll just try to, you know, hand out the gospel tract, and I wasn't there to intimidate or bother or to argue, just try to be nice and talk to people. If a conversation arose, did not try to force anything, if they said no, say, no problem, man, enjoy the show, enjoy the concert, we're not here protesting music, we're not here to debate music, we're here to try to present the gospel. So, we went. It was very successful, I think, for the most part. Most people were really cool. We only had a few people who tried to throw out some kind of smart aleck comment, you know, whatever. But, you know, ooh, I'm a Satanist. You know, they would try to hint at, I'm a Satanist. I believe in killing children at midnight. You know, trying to say ridiculous things. Most of them didn't even know what Satanism was. And I would be like, man, come on. I mean, like, you know, whatever. I'm not intimidated. I'm not shocked because there's nothing you've done that I probably haven't already done. So, all right, whatever. Okay. So, but it went pretty, it went pretty good for the most part. I think everything went really good. At one point, the local news channel was out there and saw me and wanted to interview me. And I was like, absolutely not under no circumstance, because then that turns this into a self-promotion. It makes it about me. Then they were asking, so are you here protesting? I'm not here protesting any. Why is it if Christians show up, it has to be a protest or a boycott? No. I said if it was up to me, I'd be inside the Coliseum watching the band. But I thought this was an opportunity to just share the gospel and challenge young people to possibly consider Christianity and consider reading the Bible. There's nothing more to it. There's no conspiracy. There's no protest. There's no boycott. It's just, here I am. I'm out here doing so. What was cool is there was a couple of teenagers, four or five, who after everyone went into the building, right, whenever one went into the building, they didn't go in, they stood over to the side. And then later they came up and started talking to me and asking questions about Christianity. And then I think later I met one or two of them, I was asked to speak at some like youth conference, you think, and some of the kids came up to me, they were there, and came up to me and said, hey, you're the one who told us about Christ at the concert, and they had made a profession of faith. I thought that was really awesome, it was really cool. So for the most part, I thought it was a fairly Good idea. So then I decided after everyone went in I mean then as the night went it started getting kind of depressing People were coming out some people were drunk and people had gotten in fights You saw kind of the ugly side of it. Like if you're just there watching the music you don't see all of this and you see people, you know Strung out on drugs and drunk and fighting and it's just you saw the negative side of it and kind of watching that was was depressing So then I kind of just thought, well, I've got all of these tracks. I mean, I've got like, I mean, I brought so many, it wasn't even funny. I don't even know the, I said thousands, who knows how many thousands. And I'm like, well, I can put these on like on the windshields of cars. I think maybe, I don't know if that will be successful. So I go to this truck and at the back of the truck, I see a cooler. I see a cooler and I open it up. I think maybe there were some beers in it. I know there was some ice. I'm just going to tell you what I did. Now, again, I'm a teenager. I'm a teenager. I've got zeal. I've got zeal. I've got passion. Now, I already hated alcohol. My hatred for alcohol had nothing to do with my Christianity. I've watched too much devastation and destruction of alcohol in people's lives. I had an alcoholic try to take an ax and chopped through the bathroom door because we were pouring his alcohol down the toilet. So, I've seen the horrible, ugly side of alcoholism. So, my hatred for alcohol had literally nothing to do with my Christianity. But I'm like, no. So, I poured it all out. Poured it all out. All the ice. I don't know what I did with the beer. There's a high probability I did something that was completely wrong. And then I filled up the cooler with probably 800 gospel tracks. Yeah. Now, there was a time I would tell that story like, look what I did! I was taking a stand for Jesus! Now I realize how utterly inappropriate illegal, stupid, foolish to do. That was not my property, nobody else's property. Someone's laughing. It's funny now looking back at how stupid I was, but I really, and I thought I was doing something for Jesus, I really did, but obviously what I did was wrong. So, that would be a situation where I think that's inappropriate. I think that's the wrong way, the wrong time, the wrong everything. Now, I think how I handled the lines of kids handing out the tracts, I thought I handled that really well. I didn't argue with anyone. I wasn't standing there like a lot of preachers would do, because you know what a lot of preachers would do? They would stand there while all these kids are waiting to go in and just start yelling and screaming, you're going to burn in hell unless you repent. I hate that. I loathe that way of doing things. So I just talked to each one individually. I think it went well, conducted myself. I had an opportunity to be on the news, turned it down because that was going to turn it into about me. I think I did really well. But then that one situation, I acted a fool. I think it was inappropriate. Now you've probably seen situations where the gospel's being presented in ways that you think was wrong place, wrong time, wrong way. Look, I know I'm gonna tick off a lot of Christians, I'm not a fan of... knocking on the door someone opens the door you can tell they're trying to get ready to have supper they're getting ready to do whatever and you're like hey if you were to die tonight would you go to heaven or hell look i'm trying to take care of my kids and make some get off my doorstep and you don't walk away going oh i did i was persecuted for you're persecuting you were being persecuted for bothering people Now, I hate that. Look, I'm going to say it. I know a lot of people love doing that. I just feel like it's so inappropriate to me. Because you know what I hate more than anything? Is anyone knocking on my door. I don't care if it's Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons. I don't care what they're selling. I don't want to be bought. If I want what you're selling, I would go find it. I don't need you knocking on my door. Now, to be fair, If Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons knock on my door now, to be fair, I do it like that because I'm like, come on in. Let's talk doctrine and theology, right? I love that. Okay. But that, because then it's like I'm doing missionary work and I don't even have to go anywhere. They come to me. But typically when people knock on my door, I get irritated by it. It bothers me. So I can't stand that I'm gonna bother someone in their home and then say, hey, if you were to die tonight, would you go to heaven or hell? And it's like, it just seems so... Now I understand a lot of ministries have great success with that. I'm not good at that. I'm not good at that at all in any way, shape or form. I think I've done good. So I've got a mixed track record of how I've handled myself in this way. But I just think, This is a gospel track, a love story. Who gave your life? The Bible says Jesus. Who gave you life? The Bible says Jesus did. Who created this world for you to live on? The Bible says Jesus did. Who knows everything you've ever said or thought in your heart? The Bible says Jesus does. Who knows how lonely and really scared you are? Who really understands you? The Bible says Jesus does. Who knows all about your sins? The Bible says Jesus does. Who wants you to be next to him in heaven? The Bible says Jesus. Who wants to keep you from going to hell? Jesus. Who loved you so much that he would leave his throne in heaven just for you? Jesus. Who loved you so much that he would shed his precious blood and wash away your sins and die for you? Jesus. Who loved you so much that he rose from the dead and went back to heaven? Jesus. Jesus. Who loves you enough that he would build a gorgeous mansion in heaven for you to live in? Jesus. Who wants you to tell him how very sorry you are for your sins and that you'll turn away from them? Jesus. Who wants to come into your heart if you ask him to? Jesus. Now, if you've done that, Who loves you so much that He wants to share His richest power and glory with you? Jesus. Who loves you so much that He would put angels at your side to protect you? Jesus. Who wants you to be with Him when He comes back to this earth as King of Kings and Lord of Lords? Jesus. Who loves you so much that He wants you to rule at His side throughout eternity? Jesus. Isn't that a beautiful love story? Who could ever love you like that? Only God Almighty. And that's who Jesus really is. Now, of course, for each one of those, there's a scripture, right? There's a scripture for each one of those. So, lots of scripture. We could get into the theology of it, but that's what was on top of the urinal. They want to tell you about the greatest love story of how much God loved you, that he sent his only begotten son. The greatest love story placed on top of a urinal. Now, for the person who put it there, I guarantee you their motives were pure and right. They have passion and desire. They don't want to see anyone go to hell. They want to share the gospel. And you know what? I got nothing but respect for that. Nothing, right? it can be convicting that maybe I don't have the same passion they do. So that is convicting. So I'm not saying anything negative about whoever placed it there. Now, I was hoping, I was hoping they would put their, like, you know, a church name or something, but they gave no contact information, right? Not that I would contact them, but I would just like to see, you know, which ministry is out there trying to get people to do that. It may just be an individual who bought a lot of Jack Chick tracks, if I can say the name correctly. But whoever it is, I do hope that they will never allow their passion to be you know, water to put on their fire. I don't want their passion to ever be taken away. You want them to have that passion, to have that zeal. You just, I just, and again, it's a personal thing. They may say, no, the urinal is an appropriate place. It does not cheapen the gospel. It does not do anything. It's perfectly okay. Wherever the people are, the gospel, I can understand the argument. I just know for me, I couldn't put it there. I mean, that's literally putting God's Word on a urinal. I just couldn't do it. I just couldn't do it. Now, I've gone into people's houses, and there's their commode, their toilet, and right on the back part of their toilet sits a Bible. right next to the toilet and a basket will sit a Bible. When they go to the bathroom, that's going to take them a long time. I guess they will read the Bible. I could never, see, that feels inappropriate to me. That feels inappropriate to me. Is that, I don't know, is it, am I being too, I don't know. I don't know. But I do know this, whatever you think about placing a track on top of a urinal or having a Bible sitting next to your toilet or on the back of the toilet, however you may feel about that, I do know this, it's always important for us to ask ourselves, hey, I want to share the gospel. I want to share the gospel with people. I think it's always important to at least ask ourselves, is this the best time, the best place, and the best way? Is this an appropriate time or an inappropriate time? I think it's okay to ask that question. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking that question, right? Because what do we want people to remember? The gospel. We don't want them to remember, man, should they have been doing it that way? Is that appropriate? Like I've seen some Christian groups show up at pride events and then they're out there screaming, sodomites will burn in hell, you groomers, you pedophiles. And it's like, all the people can remember who are at the pride event is those hateful people yelling and screaming at them. There's gotta be a better way. Now, not everyone always agrees on all of this. A lot of personal convictions come into play here. But I do know this, I would rather people leave remembering my message, remembering my kindness, my graciousness, my humility, not remembering being yelled and screamed or feeling fearful, feeling hate and anger. or walking away going, man, you're never going to believe this, I was at the movies, I went to see Mission Impossible, Dead Reckoning Part One, went into the bathroom, there was like this gospel thing sitting on top of the urinal. Like, I don't want people to remember where the gospel track was, I would want them to remember what's in the gospel track, that there is a great love story, that God So loved you a sinner that he sent his only son to die for you and that placing your faith in him You can have eternal life. 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The Gospel At The Urinal
Série Eye on Christianity
Is there an inappropriate place for the gospel?
Identifiant du sermon | 713232235617 |
Durée | 35:47 |
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Catégorie | Podcast |
Langue | anglais |
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