All scientists can ever do is propose models of how nature works. These can never be true; they can only be useful. Even Bertrand Russell, notorious atheist, admitted in an essay that in essence, science is superstitious.
And Catholics, take note: if there were Natural Laws, miracles would be impossible, for God doesn't break His laws; rather, he upholds all things "by the word of His power," Heb. 1:3. He can make men sink in water, or walk upon it, by His good pleasure.
If Wikipedia is to be believed, Mormon bankers financed Las Vegas casinos (starting with the gangster Bugsy Siegel), and Mormons often make good employees because they can be trusted. I had a Mormon coworker who said a relative of his had a job rigging the slot machines (UK: fruit machines).
Mormonism is theologically weirder than Hinduism (despite their attempts to look like just another pop Evangelical church), yet it's the All American religion, with nice, clean-living young men in slacks and ties, just like BJU students.
If you want your discussion with JWs or Mormons to end, bring up Predestination.
Nice Sermon! It's a breath of fresh air to hear someone preach against feminism and abortion. It's not preached on enough. Most women think of Hilary Clinton when they hear the word Feminist, but I say the average feminist is siting in the pew right next to you!
Stevenr wrote: Neil; yes and no. While the isolationist ideology is attractive, we must remember that we are in a world economy, not simply one that involves us.
Economic stability is a pretty worldly motive. And recall that ancient Israel was never commended by God for seeking alliances to protect itself; why should that change now, if you really believe that 3rd Temple stuff?
The US has played the imperialist for the past century, a perfect foil for Communist propaganda & now, Islamic xenophobia. We need to learn to mind our own business & stop trying to fix the world by force.
Stevenr wrote: ‚Ä¶However, I do agree that radical Islam is a more immediate and violent danger.
A problem Europe brought upon itself by immigration, & one America brought upon itself by that & sticking its nose into Mideast affairs since 1973. If it's about Israel, they can take care of themselves; if it's about oil, it's not worth it, & even crazy Muslims must respect commodity- price forces.
Western control freaks cannot get this into their thick skulls: The best way to destroy Islam is to let it alone so it will devour itself.
‚ÄúDo as I say, not as I do‚ÄĚ is the 1st Commandment for church leaders & Progressive politicians.
If Esquire Phillips's new church knows about him, then they probably shouldn't accept him as a member until the [possibly dubious] lawsuit is resolved; if they don't, then they must be in Siberia or the like.
Christine wrote: between the Pope and the Queen, poverty could be eradicated across this entire planet.... the hypocrisy is becoming quite comical...
The track record of Progressivism & Marxism should be enough to refute the superstition that all poverty can be eliminated with money alone. It is a complex issue with few materialistic solutions like that. And BTW, Jesus said, "For ye have the poor always with you."
Rome's hypocrisy isn't the whole story; there is much history & philosophy behind it. Enmity towards banking & capitalism starts at least with Aristotle, whose critique of interest & market prices was repeated by Thomas Aquinas in his Summa Theologica, virtually a 2nd bible for the Catholic Church. It was John Calvin who suggested (with much reluctance) that not all loans are usurious; this inaugurated the association of Protestantism with Free Enterprise. This is not to say that Protestants have been consistent about it since then, esp. now.
Irony is, the RCC in its heyday depended upon the Medici, Bardi, Peruzzi, & other Italian bankers, who used Bills of Exchange to earn what in effect was interest.
"The church is not an NGO with lots of old buildings ‚Äď it is the Church of God, rejoicing in the realities of cultural diversity in a way never known before"
Which god, I wonder? If he's referring to his Anglican Church, it's been a compromised state policy & propaganda tool ever since the Tudors. This is the only reason I can see why a country full of skeptics & unbelievers doesn't disestablish it.
Secondarily, it has served as a sinecure for countless aristocratic sons.
Vendre wrote: God tells us to fast and He would not tell us to do something which is bad for us.
On the contrary, a Christian profession has guaranteed many a shorter lifespan. Folks in Western countries, I suspect, tend to forget this.
And nowhere do I see Biblical evidence that fasting has any health benefits, or is intended to have them. If you're going to fast, do it for Biblical reasons, not because some White Smock thinks it's Good For You.
Jim Lincoln wrote: and yes, Neil, most of Americans expect a healthcare plan out of the Republicans,
Brooks didn't say that. Looks like you're playing evasive games, bringing up the distraction of an alleged Bandwagon this time. But if Americans do think this way, that's nothing to me: I say they're foolish to fall for a con like that. That's not the proper role of the Fed gov't, nor has the Fed gov't shown any evidence of competence in this field.
Since you now say "trogolodyte" instead, that's enough for me to conclude that you have no intention of repenting from your bigoted, juvenile name-calling. Bigots like to believe that whole classes of people have a monopoly on virtue (e.g. Israelis, Communist Democrats) or evil (e.g. Repubs).
Brooks has a faulty premise, possibly intended as a trick to shift ground: many Repubs oppose Fed healthcare altogether; hence, they are not obliged to offer any alternative at all. And if only they would likewise reject a Fed role in the financial sector; here, I expect no alternative from them either, & repudiate nationalized banking, which is what we effectively have.
You yourself have said before that the Repub Plan is to let people die or similar nonsense, as if inaction equals murder. So which is it, Jim? You can't have it both ways.
It is those who demand that other people pay their financial obligations, or bail them out of fiscal irresponsibility, who are greedy. This is lost on Marxists like yourself.
SteveR wrote: How are men judged that have not had access to the Holy Scriptures? Just by the glimmer of innate knowledge that men still retain after the fall? Or something else?
Don't take my word for it: Rom 1:19 "Because that which may be known of God is manifest IN THEM [emphasis mine]; for God hath shewed it unto them." And not by observing invisible things either (v. 20), that would be absurd. What too many commentators forget is, not every use of the verb "to see" in Scripture is speaking of eyeballs or optic nerves; even today, people still use it as an idiom for *understanding* by the mind.
See also Rom. 2:14-15. Despite centuries of misrepresentation by Evidentialists, the Bible is clear about the natural man's knowledge & responsibility. Not even the blind & deaf have an excuse for unbelief, nor can skeptics complain about any unfairness towards those who never heard.
SteveR wrote: The concept of General Revelation is a powerful one, so you are fighting an uphill battle.
Sure it is, but your meaning is different from mine. I say it means this: Man is born with innate knowledge of God, as Romans 1 says; he does not learn it from nature by observation like countless disciples of Thomas Aquinas believe. This view was destroyed two centuries ago by David Hume. Evidently, few Christians study the history of philosophy, no thanks to pastors who teach it's a waste of time. It's not.
Confessions mean nothing to me unless they demonstrably recapitulate what Scripture says.