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Survey12/3/09 12:57 PM
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John UK wrote:
#1 Quite so, BY HIS SPIRIT.
#2 He had not ascended at that point, my friend.
#1 Wrong!
#2 The miracle of what Jesus did there appears to have escaped you, and that was the point I sought to make.

I guess I'm going to have to leave you applying your human restrictions to the Son of God then John. Scripture clearly demonstrates that Christ is not locked up in heaven, but you appear to find that necessary to complete your hypothesis of the movement of the divine.

God is omnipresent.
The Holy Spirit is omnipresent.
And the Son of God is NO LESS able in any way to them as part of the Trinity.

"Some have tried to effect a still stronger and closer union of the two natures by teaching that the two natures, immediately at the incarnation, were welded into one Divine-human nature, or that the Divine nature divested itself of its characteristics and condescended to the limitation of human nature, or that the human nature lost its properties and received those of the Divine nature (be it all of them, or just some of them such as omnipresence, omnipotence, omniscience, quickening power) But the Reformed confession has always repudiated and attacked such a welding of two natures into one"(Bavinck)


Survey12/2/09 4:37 PM
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John UK wrote:
the incarnate God was physically limited geographically as to his physical presence,
Matt 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, THERE AM I in the midst of them.

Look John, Jesus has already been back in a "supernatural" form.......Body and spirit.....

John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, WHEN THE DOORS WERE SHUT where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
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26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, THE DOORS BEING SHUT, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

If the Lord can do this in such a miraculous way, then being immanent-omnipresent is surely easy for divine power. Obviously He is not bound to the physical.


Survey12/2/09 3:13 PM
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John UK wrote:
You strangely say: "The body cannot go far
"He existed then in the form of God and thought it no robbery to be equal with God (Phil. 2:6). At His resurrection and ascension He simply received again the glory which He had with the Father before the world was (John 17:5). He is eternal as God Himself, having been with Him already in the beginning (John 1:1 and 1 John 1:1). He is the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end (Rev. 22:13); He is omnipresent, so that, though walking about on the face of the earth, He is simultaneously in the bosom of the Father in heaven (John 1:18,3:13); and after His glorification He remains with His church and fulfills all in all; Mat28.20,Eph1.23,4.10, He is unchangeable and faithful and is the same yesterday, and today, and forever (Heb.13:8); He is omniscient, so that He hears prayers; Acts1.24,7.59,16.13,Rom10.13 He is the One who knows all men’s hearts (Acts 1 :24; unless the reference here is to the Father); He is omnipotent so that all things are subjected unto Him and all power is given to Him in heaven and on earth, and is the chief of all kings."(H.Bavinck)

Survey12/2/09 10:42 AM
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John UK wrote:
Christ is all in all.
Thats almost it John, you are getting soooo close now keep going in that direction...."in all"

Don't try to restrict Jesus to one 'spiritual' location. The body cannot go far but His divine spirit can reach as far as God or the Holy Spirit. He has the same power as them.

We started this chat with the question as to whether the Spirit can indwell the UNBeliever. Of course the same immanence applies to Him. Thus the answer is yes! Since NOTHING physical can prevent the divine Spirit of God, Christ or the Holy Ghost going and being anywhere. Even sin cannot do that which is what Lurker implied earlier. But if sin did prevent the divine (Triune) Spirit's from going into a mortal then none would be saved.
Indwelling is a term used to describe the work of the Holy Ghost within the life, heart and mind of the believer. It is a spiritual term - not a physical location-restriction.

Question :- Matt 7:21-23 tells of people who were "workers of iniquity" and rejected by Christ. But the things they were doing viz; Prophesying, casting out devils, works in the name of Christ - HOW were they able to do these works IF they did not have the Spirit??? Or did they???


Survey12/1/09 4:13 PM
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John UK wrote:
No need to deal, my man....
Eph 3:17. That Christ may dwell in your hearts"
He explains what is meant by "the strength of the inner man." As "it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell" (Col 1:19)
so he who has Christ dwelling in him can want nothing. It is a mistake to imagine that the Spirit can be obtained without obtaining Christ; and it is equally foolish and absurd to dream that we can receive Christ without the Spirit. Both doctrines must be believed. We are partakers of the Holy Spirit, in proportion to the intercourse which we maintain with Christ; for the Spirit will be found nowhere but in Christ, on whom he is said, on that account, to have rested; for he himself says, by the prophet Isaiah, "The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me." (Isa 61:1 Luke 4:18) But neither can Christ be separated from his Spirit; for then he would be said to be dead, and to have lost all his power.
Justly, therefore, does Paul affirm that the persons who are endowed by God with spiritual vigor are those in whom Christ dwells. He points to that part in which Christ peculiarly dwells, in your hearts, - to show that it is not enough if the knowledge of Christ dwell on the tongue or flutter in the brain" (John Calvin)

Survey12/1/09 11:34 AM
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John UK wrote:
even though he is absent from us in body.
Yup You're right John "in body" He is absent.

Now all you gotta deal with is His spirit. That won't be quite so easy to restrict.


Survey11/30/09 4:20 PM
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John UK wrote:
a] Well well, and I suppose you receive the physically-spiritual Christ every time you go to mass at the local RCC abominable deceiving 'church'? How else are you going to accept the God-Man into your flesh? Yuk!

b] Or do you really imagine that The Christ (The Second Person) can separate himself into component parts, thus having his Man-Side remain in heaven, while his God-Side can come to earth and spiritually indwell all believers?

a] Come on now John, you are getting a bit desperate arn't you.

b] Why not John? After all do you know exactly what the spirit of Christ can do in divine hands? Christ is the same as God in power and spiritual capacity. So if Christ in the spirit can be just as omnipresent and immanent as God can and the Holy Ghost can, that would be a supernatural feat, like walking on water or controling the elements, or feeding 5000 people with a couple of fish sandwiches........

Is that such a surprise to the Bible believing Christian???

And don't forget Christ's body has eternal life!!!


Survey11/29/09 5:02 PM
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Mike wrote:
It should be clear there is no indwelling of the Holy Spirit in unbelievers, regardless how one defines or misdefines omnipresence.
Prove it with the actual "negative" verse statement from Scripture.

John UK wrote:
Don't forget that it is very easy to prove that the Holy Ghost is variously named: The Spirit of God, God's Spirit, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit, The Spirit of Christ, and so on.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

Now John it is you who is deciding that this verse only allows the Holy Ghost to be on earth. But there is another view which is borne out by the statement of the verse itself, "if Christ be in you" - Paul refers directly to Christ who is not the Holy Ghost - is He!!!


Survey11/29/09 2:29 PM
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John UK wrote:
But not so with the God-Man, who is located in heaven having his divine nature inseparable from his resurrected human body, who shall come DOWN to judge the quick and dead.
Should we conclude that Christ is locked in His human body, and that His spirit cannot reach to other parts of creation, whether mortal or any other?

The spirit may be constrained in the body - BUT is the spirit of Christ "restrained" by His body?

Is it just our lack of understanding which decides to restrain Christ's divine spirit into one specific location?
After all what Biblical proof do we have to prevent the Son of God from being and indeed working among His creation and creatures?

The Holy Spirit has a specific task within the human race, eg to work faith in the hearts of the believers. His spiritual "capacity" to pass within our being is unhindered by the physical or the material. This demonstrates that the spiritual is not restrained by the physical.

The Spirit's task does not preclude Christ's involvement with His followers, if He so chose to do. NT states He will return on judgment day, but that does not prevent His involvement before then in a spiritual form. EG divine power like Eph 4:6. Phil 4:13.


Survey11/4/09 2:39 PM
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Yes.

Today we might look around and wonder if the neo-religion of Liberalism is the anti-christ or at least his theology. But the revealing of the anti-christ is not something for these last few days, but the error and heresy which proves itself by surviving down the ages. Whereas Liberalism is too obvious a fallacy which ditches the complete Bible for the worship of man's culture and abominations. Perhaps a decoy?

The papal antichrist, not just one person but several over the centuries, has sought to thwart the Word of God and the Work of God for many years. It has done this in insidious and subtle ways typical of Satan and darkness. Thus gaining acceptance.

The Roman Catholic dogma has set up a separate religion, indeed a separate scripture by way of error and idolatry. The gullible have been bewitched and fooled by this false teacher drawing them into idolatry, "saints" worship, relics and all kinds of graven images. Thus the followers take the path away from God and His Son in the only alternative - worldly idols, things they can touch and see with human eyes.

Salvation by works is their natural religious focus, whereby human effort with worldly implements invented by a worldly church, beguile them into an earthly sense of religious security.


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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
since I have free will, I have the authority to accept or reject the Holy Spirit.
Oh Look.
In the Roman Catholic heresy the sinner is more powerful that their version of the holy spirit.

Salvation by works raising its ugly heretical head again.

This demonstrates the UNScriptural teachings in the antichrists satanic organisation.

Only the truth can set them free, meanwhile we must leave them and the pharisees to write their own version of the Bible.

Lets hope Bert becomes Christian soon by the grace of God; - instead of this worldly association with fallacy fiction and idolatry.

13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.


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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
Absolute rubbish. We do not worship anyone but the Holy Trinity, the One True God.
No not rubbish Bert!

The fact is that the popish followers of the papal antichrist are observed in history as well as today, as WORSHIPPING graven images such as relics and dead people and sinners ancient bones.

This article is about such misguided people for whom God, Christ and the Holy Spirit are insufficient.

Roman dogma is heretical and unBiblical and full of idolatrous practices which Holy Writ has banned, defined as adulterous and made God jealous unto wrath.

The real problem you have Bert is that you cannot perceive truth in Scripture.


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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
unfortunately, there is no shortage of gullible people who are more than willing to swallow it hook, line and sinker.
You're absolutely correct Bert. There are many gullible people who worship stone and alabaster statuettes, old bones, dead sinners and icons, pieces of toast and goodness knows what else.

They are called Roman Catholics.

Very very sad.

I pray God may release them from the bondage of such sin filled heretical dogmas.

As GOD commanded.....

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:


News Item10/29/09 4:31 PM
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The latest Anglican UNChristian goof!!!

"Bradford Cathedral has appointed a Muslim as the Cathedral’s first Interfaith Development Officer. Nuzhat Ali is to be the second Muslim the Church of England has added to its payroll, following the example of Blackburn Cathedral.

Mrs Ali is a senior member of the Islamic Society of Britain who has worked closely with the local council. She will work under Canon Frances Ward and her initial projects include Scriptural Reasoning workshops – studying sacred texts alongside other faiths - and a lecture series entitled ‘The State We’re In’."


News Item10/6/09 2:36 PM
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Mike wrote:
This statement brings up a curiosity, June. What was the objective of the Reformers? Surely they had in mind something that needed reforming.
Same thought that is in the Christian when working in the world with anybody - That GOD might SAVE them.

God's 16th century Reformation was to bring "His Church" back to the truth. The rest are guilty as charged and reprobate.


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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
1) Why to the exclusion of Jesus and the Holy Spirit? Salvation is by Faith AND Works, not by Works alone.
2) OK, so Salvation is by Faith and Works, right?
3) Notice that Jesus says "...who does the Will of the Father". So, you have to DO (Works) something.
4)What do relics, icons and man made rituals have to do with Faith?
1) Salvation is by the merits of Christ Jesus ALONE!

2) Salvation is by the merits of Christ Jesus ALONE!

3) The ability of the follower of Christ Jesus to do anything spiritually *FOR* the Lord, comes from God ALONE! Only Works based HUMAN religions claim otherwise. The idea that a sinner can earn salvation by human effort on earth is UNBiblical and satanic.

4) To answer that ask the Roman Catholic - It is they who put faith in old bones - not Christians.
Look at this current idolatrous debacle in England the Nun Therese, the worship that these poor deluded fools is summed up; - "The leg bone of some dead old Nun will get you saved." - Very Sad!!!

If you believe that your own effort is going to save you!
Then you are in for a shock!


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DisplacedMaritimer(Bert) wrote:
I refer you to James 2:26, "For just as a body without a spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.". Basically, James is saying that even if you have faith, you can refrain from doing good works. The two are at odds.
I side with James on this. Even if I have faith in God, I still have the free will to do as I please. I can do good or evil.
This is the ultimate result of the Pelagian hypothesis, where if there is a verb in the NT then the mortal can do it.
This is justification, sanctification and salvation by works, but, This is the exclusion of Christ and the Holy Spirit.

NB James states, "a body without a spirit is dead" as an analogy. But faith and works do not imply that the life of the faith is works, - but that true faith produces works acceptable to God, who provides faith in the first place.

Many try works and intellectual assent to the ideas of religious doctrines and dogmas, but this is what we find in the Laodicean church and Matt 7:21ff. These are works empty of real faith. These are what we perceive in the acceptance of relics, icons and other man made rituals.
This is not what true faith teaches.



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