Rather than engage in a lengthy debate, I offer the following excellent article from the Trinitarian Bible Society which deals with those three viewpoints.

[URL=http://www.trinitarianbiblesociety.org/site/articles/A121.pdf]]]Which Bible Version Does it REALLY matter?[/URL]

There is an Iranian Brother who was made to memorize the Zoroastrian sacred book of Avesta and the Quran, who then came from Iran as a teenager and was gloriously converted and now a Pastor of a Reformed Baptist Church in Cheltenham. He is also involved in work on the Farsi Bible with the TBS and has the Gospel of Christ Persian Radio ministry here [URL=http://www.injilefarsi.com/ ]]]Here[/URL] How is it that a young man with English as his second language, can be so convicted to use a supposed archaic and difficult to read authorised version? It certainly destroys one myth about the readability of that version!

O yes folk usually say- but it is better to read the original languages

Mike wrote:
The use of silly evolutionist arguments to uphold your point of view is, um, interesting. The enemy of your enemy is your friend?

Why do you not abandon your NASB and go for the ESV as most evangelicals are heading that way?

What do you say about those modern versionists seeing the need for one bible then?

[URL=http://www.desiringgod.org/ResourceLibrary/Articles/ByDate/2004/1534_Good_English_With_Minimal_Translation_Why_Bethlehem_Uses_the_ESV/]]]Piper and the ESV[/URL]

What do you say about the General Editor of the ESV J I Packer[URL=http://www.takeheed.net/Take_Heed_2010/Current_Concerns/Jan_2010/Packer_and_Mother_Teresa.htm]]]Revising his own book?[/URL]

I know why I won't be buying an ESV.

Tell me why there shouldn't be ONE BIBLE version for the English speaking world? Why does the NASB have GOD in I Timothy 3: 16 and the ESV doesn't? Which is MORE accurate? Isn't that what it is all about..the most accurate version?

Why did Pastors abandon the AV and go for the NIV and now agree that the NIV is a poor translation..so they promote the ESV? Where is your discernment brother?

Here are some comments for your interest from Evolutionists who visited the Creation Museum. They see an obvious problem BUT THE CHURCH DOESN'T SEE THE NEED FOR ONE ECUMENICAL TEXT

"Consider also that the Bible read by fundamentalist Christians is not the same Bible read by other Christian denominations"

"If the Bible is truth from start to finish, how do we determine which version of the Bible is the most true?" Matt Huttaff

"Ken Ham starts with the forward. Quoting Peter from the KJV. The word of God is true. Infallible, unchanging. So isn't it funny Ken uses the KJV? Why you ask. I find it funny that at the Creation Museum, Ken Ham uses the KJV and Dr Terry Mortenson uses the NASB. Which is it? Who has the word of God? Here they are working to convert the heathens, arm the ignorant with advanced ignorance and they do not even use the same bible. Maybe any version is OK, as long as it suites your purpose. lol

princecharles wrote:
ill have to ask him about tony blair.

"The laws will prevent witnessing in our own backyard soon, and the 'church' will be virtually underground, with no voice and no effect in the UK"

Mike wrote:
So what shall we glean from Ryle "here"? Is he saying we should keep Sunday, or the Sabbath?

Charles

Good points.

I think most of us are guilty in having such a 'full life' that we seem to have little time for our first love. Family and entertainment often come before.

Maybe we need to cut the plug off the TV and ask our churches to systematically equip us by organising more in the way of teaching throught the week. An African brother can sit through hours of ministry and still be asking for more, we seem to have difficulty with a 30 min sermon, but not with a 90 minute football match! That says too much, I am afraid

I wonder how often brethren meet through out the week together to pray and study, even just a handful from any given congregation? Or rise an hour before work to study and pray?

prince charles wrote:
I have read J C ryles the old paths and i liked it a lot and i would model my ideas on his statement.

Interestingly I was reading J C Ryle last week and it rubber stamped what is wrong in some calvinistic churches, as I had been thinking much on the subject.

If you read from Ryle just under:

4) I appeal, in the last place, to all who love the Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity, and are zealous in His cause...
[URL=http://graceonlinelibrary.org/articles/full.asp?id=13|26|201]]]Here[/URL]

See what he says about the 'old paths' and evangelising and where to start!

There are Reformed organisations today who concentrate on petitioning parliament. It is a good work, but what about the ordinary man in every town and village in the UK. Will he hear the truth on BBC or in 'the Sun' or Telegraph?

Obviously there is a calvinism which is evangelistic.

But sending missionaries to other countries without sending them to our own streets first?

Do you see much street outreach?

prince charles wrote:
Its hardly a fresh start

"take their stand (identifying with like-minded men and women) for the things once commonly held among us and which desperately need to be maintained and defended again.

We appeal to all who love and still adhere to “the old paths” to identify with this Affirmation and so to stand shoulder to shoulder with us in defence of vital Christianity and godliness"

Rather than where modern versions have sometimes led:

"in recent years, there has been such an unprecedented decline, both in faith and in practice, that many of us no longer recognise “modern Evangelicalism” as the faith in which we were brought up or as the faith to which we still firmly adhere."

Nor is it a call to return to calvinism or the AV for the sake of it:

"little more than assent to a particular theology and that bare academic Calvinism"

It is a return to 'the old paths', because they are biblical (WCF; Baptist 1689)etc.

Hence folk from the Metropolitan Tabernacle can sign it and have done so

Hence it is supported by the Trinitarian Bible Society

prince charles wrote:
thanks, that is an important point worth asking about i ought to think about several questions like that

[URL=http://www.christianwatch.org.uk/cwn/index.php/about-us/who-and-what-are-christian-watch/]]]About us[/URL]

[URL=http://www.christianwatch.org.uk/cwn/index.php/about-us/christian-watch-statement-of-faith/]]]Statement of faith[/URL]

The Christian Watch statement of faith is excellent as they uphold the old paths and the authorised version and SIGNED AFFIRMATION 2010.

I would get in touch and arrange a meeting up your way!

Also note again Affirmation 2010 and the article below [URL=http://affirmation2010.wordpress.com/articles/]]]Which version does it really matter?[/URL]

You can get the booklet for 40p from the Trinitarina Bible Society...you should get some to distribute

Time to make a vocal defence of the OLD PATHS and that includes the old faithful Protestant Ecumenical Bible text

[URL=http://www.christianwatch.org.uk/cwn/]]]Christian Watch[/URL]