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Ive had some wonderful God given conversations on this forum. And some, not so much. My beliefs were challenged. Ive grown a lot and feel that I've interacted with some real saints. So, i praise the Lord for that. I really do. Its because of the new heart he put in me that i even looked into this to begin with. So praise the Lord. Again I say, praise the Lord.

Moving on.


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Nor is it a declaration of belief in continuism.

Is it still ok to test everything carefully?

I'll answer that...

Yes.


News Item1/13/18 4:16 PM
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I have to say... if everyone reads through the thread carefully, they would see that what is being said by me and John uk (correct me if im wrong john), is not a declaration of belief in the charasmatic way.

Let's be honest.


News Item1/13/18 11:49 AM
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Thanks Chris. I determined some time ago that i would never conclude my beliefs in something until i was sure from scripture that it is so. How can that be unwise? I live by the meat of the word, the side dishes come with time. Going from morman to mild charasmatic to borderline wild charasmatic to more reformed(and being born again somewhere in the middle), i saw that most people studied the word with glasses that were provided by the camp they were in. And each camp had no reasonable(my opinion) explanations for certain scripture that challenged the views of their camp.

Bro... i don't find it troubling to ask these questions.


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What is the perfect that is to come? Has it come? Is it the finished Bible? Is it love?

News Item1/13/18 7:47 AM
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Bro john...

Thanks for the encouragement. Your last post to US is virtually spot-on with my take as well. In my opinion it seems that the cessationist view uses that one line as the backbone. But when reading that portion of scripture, one should stop and pause when it says knowledge will pass away as well.

And just as you say, I don't have all the answers. But an honest reading of the text seems to indicate Second Coming.


News Item1/12/18 2:36 PM
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Bro observer...

I wasn't calling you popeish. But the declaration that many share as popeish.

You lay a good case.

I thought i was as well. Apparently not.

Im not declaring I fully believe that the gifts haven't ceased. I've never said that. What I have said is that I won't declare for sure that they have. Fair enough?

Anyways. Love you brother. I don't believe this is a salvation issue, so I'll leave it there.

Take care


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Dave...

Im not offended. All is well.

Paul says in one verse that tongues would cease. But does he say when?


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The Lord desires pure congregations. This is evident not only by the apostles letters to the churches. But most importantly you see how important it is to the Lord with the letters to the churches in Revelation. He needed to send them letters through John because of the sin in the camps. He was standing out side the door and knocking. Could it possibly be that the desensitization to sin caused a cessation? Not that the Cannon was closed therefore no more need for the gifts. But his people were closed so no congregation to give the gifts to?

Few there be that find it.

Just a thought.


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Dave, observer...

As with some other things, i just find it fearful to popeishly declare for certain that the Lord will not allow his gifts anymore. Is that not his business? Does this seem like foolishness to you?
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Observer...

No, i don't physically raise the dead. Nor do i desire that kind of ego tempting work. Thats not my gift. My gift is of comfort and evangelism to the ones that the Lord puts in front of me. We all have a gift given by the Lord. Dont you?

On second thought. Maybe he did give the power to me to raise the dead...
Spiritually speaking of course. 😁
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Chase...

No worries. I wasn't bent out of shape. A smiling face emoji is different then a pile of dung.


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If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. Let all things be done decently and in order.
1 Corinthians 14:37‭-‬40 KJV

We see that these things were an accepted and approved part of the church. Not only that, but they were done, with approval without the presence of an apostle. Paul made it clear that speaking in tongues in the church was not its intent. It was for the unbeliever. But, he clearly did not forbid it, but said "forbid it not." Why? Because the apostles still were physically on earth? That seems like a dispensational viewpoint. Or is it because the gospel still needed to go out to foreign lands? If that were the case, then tongue should have continued long after the apostles had passed. Seeing that the new world would not be discovered for over a thousand years.

Cont.


News Item1/12/18 8:11 AM
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Bro observer.... "People who wish to argue for their continuation today are really ignorant of the scriptures. And as with all ignorant people, they are the boldest to affirm their ignorant beliefs!"

This sticks a bit my friend. Im well aware of how people come to a resolution on this subject. I can see why we would. We don't see around us anything close to resembling these particular gifts. In fact we see the cringe-worthy baby talk that masqueraded itself as tounges. Which took center stage in the 1980s american word of faith movement.

What true believer among us, who is zealous for the honoring of our Lord wouldn't be angry?

So.. the natural reaction is to go hard in the opposite direction. And to comb the scriptures ro validate its cessation.

You lay out a well studied case. Which is a noble Pursuit.

I must go to work now. Will return later with my more detailed thoughts. After that you can decide if im ignorant of the scriptures, or something else hopefully.

At the end of the day I desire peace amongst the brethren.


News Item1/11/18 10:06 PM
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Chase..

Demanding proof text is a dangerous thing? When it comes to the bible being our written authority, i find it a strange thing that you would make this statement.

I would also encourage you not to use vile type emojis. Thanks.

A very good night to you.


News Item1/11/18 9:18 PM
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Bro U.S...

Nice. ------ for the help. See, i didn't say ------.

Cont..

I just find it presumptuous to say that these things no longer exist without the scripture to back it. Once again, I'm not speaking about the gibberish of charismatic chaos.

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Christopher...

All is well with the new little one. Thanks for asking. I told him what Uncle Chris said, and he spit up on me. Jk😉

Dave... hope all is well with you too brother. You know I love you. Hope my response to Bro Observer answers your questions about my thoughts. Same goes for Christopher.

Good night


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Greetings all...

Bro observer,

As you know, im not much for long back and forth corresponding with written word. Truth be told, im more of a face to face kind of guy. Bro, i find it fascinating that certain things of God, in scripture can be declared as "ceased" with no scripture to back up that claim. I wonder sometimes how much commentaries on multiple subjects shape our views. Its very easy to spot the ridiculous gibberish of the charismatic chaos as false. Thats not what im saying. What i am saying is this... If God decides, today(2018) to use one of his children to declare his glory to a foreign speaking person who has never heard the gospel... who am i to say that he no longer will?

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News Item1/11/18 7:57 AM
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Scripture and verse, please, that shows that the gift pf tongues is know longer present.

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As a "homeschool dad" myself, i can say it is good. But it is only as good as the parents. But the fact that a parent chooses to homeschool is evidence(in most cases IMHO) of an understanding of the danger of public schools.

I must bring up that Jim has no children. So he should remain silent on this matter.


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Amen indeed my brother.

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Evidence...of a new birth.

News Item1/10/18 9:21 PM
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Jim...

Its not what we say we believe in that makes us Christian. Our words and deeds are the evidence of what we confess.

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