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4/1/14 9:59 AM |
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Mike wrote: One thing is sure- it doesn't take Hollywood to bend the Scripture. Christendom does it even better. Biggest difference, Hollywood doesn't pretend to be Christian. Why then do we get more upset when unbelievers do the things unbelievers do? Reading the thread, I am left with the impression that it is not so much about what unbelievers do, BUT what believers do. We expect unbelievers to berate spiritual things, to twist the word of God etc. BUT the question is why would BELIEVERS waste their time or their $s to go and view this 'creative output' labelled as entertainment? Is this good stewardship of time and money? Is this acceptable 'entertainment' for Christians? What does it do to the Christians' testimony? etc. |
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8/28/08 4:38 PM |
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ENGINEER ignored verse 16 in Deuteronomy 17- 16 "Moreover, he shall not multiply horses for himself, nor shall he cause the people to return to Egypt to multiply horses, since the LORD has said to you, `You shall never again return that way.' 17 "He shall not multiply wives for himself, or else his heart will turn away; nor shall he greatly increase silver and gold for himself.Polygamy is still permisible here. Shall a king be restricted to only one horse? We can go back and forth like this but I will never resort to calling ENGINEER a fool as he has done toward me because I respect Matt 5:22 for what it says exactly. I will be humble to God and let it be His rightful place to label people as fools as in Luke 12:20. Polygamy is not like "vomit". It is not adultry. King David was called to repentence for coveting Uriah's wife and orchestrating his death. David repented only for sins explicitely stated in Scripture. God did not stop Jacob's marriage to two women like He stopped Abimelech from committing adultry. Gen 20:6. Neither did God stop Abraham from becoming one with both Sarah and Hagar. I have done my best to reveal Scripture and I have been disparaged. And what right do we have to disparage biblical characters. Not even David disparaged Saul. |
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8/28/08 11:50 AM |
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Loose ends: "enough already" wrote: "Why would God instruct clergy to have only one wife, and no one else?" and "If it is a 'pattern' for them, don't you think it should be for all mankind?" Polygamy is demanding so clergy are restricted to devote time to the other families in the community. The Levites of the Old Testament also had special restrictions placed on them so that they could devote the time to priesthood necessary for the job. The assumption that "a rule for one group of people is a rule for all people" is a wrong assumption. 1 Timothy chapter 3 specificaly refers to clergy and those who desire to be clergy."ENGINEER" wrote: "It is the word of God that is the core revelation of Christ's Lordship and salvation and not ignorance of His word thru arrogant revision of his words." The Word consists of humble precepts. Christ's Lordship sherpherd's His sheep with teachings of humility. The core value of Christianity remains "humility". Savior revealed this as the core of His personality in Matt. 11:29. Humility is the essence of Father's Holy Spirit. DJC49 wrote: you have no problem of inserting the word "married" I leave the word married out as Scripture does so the living brothers can be married or unmarried which leaves polygamy as permissible. |
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8/27/08 11:45 PM |
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Thanks for the thoughtful replies.I know to take the beam out of my own eye before looking to take the splinter out of others and that is why I work hard to read Scripture carefully. I make the assumption that the living brothers mentioned in the passage at Matt. 22:23 could be married already since the verses do not specify all are unmarried. Extra biblical commentaries may say this is a wrong assumption but the commentaries have to insert the word "unmarried" as an adjective for the living brothers. The same assumptions can be made regarding Deut 25:5-10 (thanks for the catch DJC49). So which assumption is twisting the Matt 22 and Deut 25 passages. I am very careful about adding words to Scripture that are not there. It appears that commentaries are not. As for Exodus 21:10, the male-bondservants that "ENGINEER" refers to were to be let free. Not so with females in verses 7-11 which "ENGINEER" fails to address. Again a rule for one group is not necesarily the rule for all groups. It reads as if the son of the original master chooses a polygamous marriage involving the displeasing slave. I stand by the lack of biblical condemnation of polygamy in the case of Lemech, Abraham, Jacob, Kings Saul, David and Solomon and non-clergy cultures. |
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8/18/08 5:20 PM |
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I used [URL=http://www.searchgodsword.org]]]http://www.searchgodsword.org[/URL] to look for 'abomination', 'lay', 'lie', 'marry' and 'marries' to see what relationships were forbidden. None of the verses I looked at mentioned polygamy. The emphasis was against incest, bestiality, homosexuality, prostitution, marrying people of false gods and if an Israeli woman received an inheritance she was to marry only within her tribe. All other women were allowed to marry with men from other tribes.As for the emphasis in the new testament, Paul suggests everyone be like him and be unmarried. How does that support the "be fruitful and multiply" command for growing a kingdom under Christ's humility. Suggestions are not mandates. I dare not judge those who are given more than one wife or else I would be judging Lemech, Abraham, Jacob, David, Saul,Solomon for something they were not restricted from doing. Neither does the new testament condemn them. Remember not to look down on others as the Pharisees and Sadducees did for Proverbs 16:5 says "Everyone who is proud in heart is an abomination to the LORD; Assuredly, he will not be unpunished." |
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