Frank,- The Scripture remains true. But what if your application of your understanding of the good fruit / bad fruit analogy brings forth bad fruit?
Mike wrote: Communism is merely a method for pirating of everyones wealth by well-armed bandits disguised as saviors/protectors of the workers. As for its having been brought down, it hasn't happened.
Odd that it has not happened then. Mere bandits are easy to defeat, no matter how well armed and disguised. The prisons are full of them.
Bandits come and go. Worldly kingdoms and empires and republics rise and fall. Since communism is still with us, it is evident that communism has much more to it than you think.
May God raise up many who truly have a heart to reach these people with the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only saviour of sinners.
You observed that the RCC "absorb just about every abominable thing into their manmade religion" to which I added
Mork wrote: Yes, and through that synthesis the RCC brought down communism. And some think that communism is THE antichrist system ...
In no way did I endorse the RCC. I did not address the virtue or otherwise of such an action. My use of the word "synthesis" demonstrated my complete agreement with you that they absorb just about every abominable thing into their manmade religion. Finally I demonstrated my view that it is the RCC that is THE antichrist system and not any other system that has been accused of it such as Communism.
You asked me how I knew of the RCC's key role in the demise of Communism (given your claim to first hand on the ground knowledge in eastern Europe). I responded likewise to inform you that I also have my own first hand knowledge. If there was a more constructive approach on these forums I would have been more than willing to provide specific information concerning the conduct of the Polish Communist government at the time in direct response to the power of the RCC.
Logician wrote: Hey Dork, who made you a one man spite wagon against all the saints on this board? Your superiority and pride stink to high heaven. Why not chill out with some coolaid, before you burst a vein?!
Whereas you and "all the saints" are filled with grace? Check your own blood pressure first.
Mike wrote: Problem is in your assumption that one may support one form of evil if one is opposed to another form, on the basis that they are not the same. Perhaps God has a favorite form of evil you'd like to tell us about, so we can all support it.
Strawman. The problem is yours and not mine. My observation concerned what evidently does happen, not what should happen.
There have been more than enough logic lessons here for you to work that out for yourself. See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem
If Mindy does not wish to publicly parade his ignorance on these forums and be called on it he should follow scriptural counsel, rather than foolishly bait people.
Frank - I trust you will reconsider your shameful comment. You present no evidence of compromise or pragmatism, but merely ally yourself with defective strawman argumentation. Now, where in the world did you get that from?
Frank wrote: Where in the world did you get the idea that RC brought down communism?
Where in the world? From being in Poland as an evangelical missionary at the time of the fall of Communism.
Frank wrote: I know the Catholics tout John Paul II with having a large part in that, but there is just as much evidence that they (the vatican) supported the Nazis.
Supporting Nazis and opposing communism are fully compatible e.g. Hitler. If you have a point to make you have not made it.
Frank wrote: I also know first hand that they cooperated with the old Eastern European communist countries because in their minds in order to be relevant, you have to exist. That is why they absorb just about every abominable thing into their manmade religion.
Yes, and through that synthesis the RCC brought down communism. And some think that communism is THE antichrist system ...