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Kev wrote:
I love that verse you gave that is one of my favorites. I gave that one to Christopher awhile back in this thread. I have asked God to take away my thorn of fleeting bad thoughts but He hasn’t, one thing I know is when I have them I flee to Christ and God’s strength is shown in my weakness. As you know I’m not much into man made professions of faith either and I’m sure you know some other places I would disagree with as well. But hey I disagree with my Presbyterian brothers as well
Good discussion, Kev. Sounds like we've found common ground again.

Good night.


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Kev wrote:
I agree with all you said. Check out chapter 13 of the1689 Baptist Confession of faith:
“the DOMINION of the whole BODY of sin is DESTROYED, and the SEVERAL lusts thereof are more and more weakened and mortified”
Compare to
Rom8
Romans 8:10
10 And if Christ be in you, the BODY IS DEAD because of SIN; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
I don’t agree with the doctrine set out by that confession. This was the conversation we were having last time that John alluded to.
I see what you mean.... although the second paragraph comes across better. That's probably why I don't subscribe to any CF.

Anyway, what did Jesus say to Paul regarding the thorn in his flesh of which we speak? You will have that thorn in this life. I'll not take it away because it keeps your thoughts focused on Me. My grace is sufficient.


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Kev wrote:
Hey Lurker at 3:02 John brought up progressive sanctification. So you dont believe in sanctification as a progressive work? Maybe I misunderstood you guys or at least John.
I see that now, Kev. Thanks for pointing ot out. But note bro. John clarified it as "lifelong" with which I agree. So I'm guessing we have a terminology misunderstanding which is why I used the word "ongoing".

Main thing to remember, Kev. Ongoing sanctification is for the flesh and the best it will ever get in God's eyes is, as sister MS said, when its laid in the dust. Until that time we do our best every day to keep the old nature from rearing his ugly head to quench the Holy Spirit. That's sanctification.

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Mine too, sister.


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Kev wrote:
I still haven’t seen anything that says sanctification is progressive.
If you check the posts carefully you will find that you are the one who brought up "progressive sanctification". The implication is that the justified get progressively more holy/righteous as time passes. Clearly, that is not what bro. John nor I are asserting. In fact, that is an utterly disgusting doctrine which I'd reject as heresy.

Paul spoke of ongoing sanctification in Romans 7 and again when he said "I die daily". Its the lifelong struggle we all have in keeping the old nature at bay and it won't end until:

1 Cor 15:53-54 This corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Our mortal bodies are called "corruptible" for good reason.


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Kev wrote:
Hey John that was me who argued against progressive sanctification.
This may be helpful, Kev.

https://carm.org/questions/about-doctrine/justification-and-sanctification-what-difference


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ladybug wrote:
Brother Lurker - excellent comment
Thank you dear sister.

. . .

Chris,

One other thing I didn't have room for. You mentioned a "process". I'd caution you not to confuse sanctification with justification. The former is lifelong but the latter is onetime at regeneration/new birth. Paul was justified when he received the HS at the hand of Ananias.

Blessings to all the saints.


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Christopher000 wrote:
Once God draws us to Him, and it's an obvious, life changing turn of events... is that when it's okay to respond with, "I turned my life over to Christ", etc.?
I'm trying to figure out how to answer that question if actions are off-limits in the response..the question: How do you know you're saved, how did you get saved, how do I get saved, etc. Posed by someone you're trying to witness to, etc.
Chris,

Of the three questions you listed; the first two address your own conversion experience and require a degree of theological understanding to comprehend that an unbeliever simply doesn't have. It would be like trying to explain the beauty of fall foliage to a blind person. That's not to say its wrong to share your own experience or you should avoid it.... certainly Paul shared his own. But that wasn't a part of his ministry.

When is it okay to say "When God called, I did this or that."? The when is unimportant... its recognizing the first cause of a response that matters.... God's will or man's. Enough said.

Paul gave his own conversion, beginning on Damascus Road and ending 3 days later, as a pattern for all who would believe after him. 1 Tim 1:17. Follow his pattern.


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Christopher000 wrote:
I have a question. A random stranger, someone being witnessed to, or even another born again Christian, whoever, asks...How do you know you're born again, or, how did you become born again?
How are those questions answered without responding with an intangible act of the will(Doing something)?
Think of Christian of Pilgrims Progress. That huge burden on his back which represents his guilt of transgressions against a holy God. Paul was loaded down with the same burden on Damascus Road. He couldn't kick against the pricks of guilt and that guilt, wrought by God's ten commandments being imposed, is what turned him around in repentance and pulverized his stony heart. Paul's heart was now a new lump of clay that God, through the HS, fashioned into a vessel of honor.

So how does one know they are truly born from above? By the absence of guilt forgiven and the assurance God gives us:

1 John 3:21-23 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another...


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John for JESUS wrote:
1) If you don't believe God loves unbelievers, how do you think they are saved?

2) Why do you think God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked if He hates them?

1) Mercy.

Rom 9:15-16 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

2) God chastens those He foreknew...

Hosea 9:14-17 Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. All their wickedness is in Gilgal: **for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more:** all their princes are revolters. Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb. **My God will cast them away, because they did not hearken unto him:** and they shall be wanderers among the nations.

... then redeems them in mercy:

Hosea 14:4 ff I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely: for mine anger is turned away from him.

But don't let God's words stand in the way of your theology.


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ladybug wrote:
I wonder if those in hell are 'feeling' the love of God

As a rule a man is a fool

When its hot he wants it cool

When its cool he wants it hot

He always wants what its not.

. . .

I'd guess they'd want a drop of water to cool their tongues.

Good night sister.


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Ignominius Emirakan wrote:
Hey/ if we're gonna play a Greek game
I get to play too.
http://fundamentalbaptistsermons.net/Audio/greekgame.MP3
Pastor Sam amuses "with watcha can do w/Gk"
"Greek game"
Interesting speaker. Clearly a staunch KJV Only type.

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Not wanting to get involved in a Calvinist/Aminian discussion but perhaps offer another perspective on John 3:16.

"For God so loved the world...."

"so" from the Greek word houto is an adverb meaning "after this manner". The adverb modifies the verb "loved". Therefore, the proper meaning should read like this in English:

God loved the world after this manner...

Therefore, God's love for the world is conditioned on what follows:

"that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."

"whosoever" is an adjective from the Greek word pas meaning all or every. The adjective describes the following verbal noun "believeth".

Therefore, the original meaning of the text reads as follows:

God loved the world after this manner: He gave his only begotten Son, that all the believing ones should not perish, but have everlasting life.

In conclusion, John 3:16 speaks of God's conditional love for the world only in a positive sense; to the believing ones.

"that all the believing ones should not perish, but have everlasting life."


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John Yurich USA wrote:
Of course church membership is meaningless in terms of salvation. But those who attend a Baptist Church are called Baptists as well as being called Christians.
Isaiah 62:2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name.

Isaiah 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:

Rev 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

I don't know about you but I want to know the name God gave me so I am able to answer when He calls.

Read your bible, John. God has a lot to say if you will seek His voice.


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John Yurich USA wrote:
I guess I will stop stating on here and other discussion forums that I am both Catholic and Baptist and just state that I am Baptist.
Membership in any assembly professing to be Christian is meaningless to God. There is only one church and that is the body of Christ.... real blood bought believers called in time by the will of God who freely give Him all the honor and glory for His mercy. The only name I want to be know by is the name He gave to all His elect..... Christian. Too bad its so abused in this late age but God will set the posers straight in His time.

As for your weekly pilgrimage to the local RCC assembly.... I'd liken that to going to a hog lot and scrounging around in the manure looking for a few pieces of undigested corn to feed on. Your time would be infinitely better spent reading your bible or listening to an audio bible while at the library. In the time you spend on forums trying to gain acceptance from real Christians, you could easily listen to an entire book of the bible every day. Who knows, God may actually speak to you through His word.


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Another Michael wrote:
Oh! And I wonder how many who loudly profess election and predestination, would like this one
“Every Christian is either a missionary or an imposter.”
― Charles H. Spurgeon
Hello again,

I never had time or space to reply to this earlier.

Since you and I have had many discussions in the past, I'm pretty sure I understand your motivation here. While we disagree on many things, I'm satisfied the few things we do agree on are sufficient in the sight of God.

That said, predestination and election are biblical words with specific meanings when understood in context. It seems to me that we, as professing Christians, owe it to God, who inspired these words to be written in the original languages, to understand them and use them as God intended. I am convinced that RC Sproul, who professed to expound the Reformed position on double predestination in the article which NeedHim provided a link to, did not do so and as a result has dishonored God. That has been the sole purpose of my recent posts.

However, if you feel the need to take cheap shots at fellow Christians, with whom you apparently disagree, while standing behind the skirt of C H Spurgeon; by all means, don't let me hinder you.

Have a great day.


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Another Michael wrote:
Dear Lurker
Maybe someone might call your statement/teaching: Total Abandonment?
Have you not read ... Good and upright is the LORD, therefore He instructs sinners in the way. Psalm 25:8
Hello Michael,

Its been a long while.... hope all is well with you and yours.

Indeed, Psalm 25:8 is very fitting. Isaiah also speaks of God's instruction:

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

And Paul expounds even further:

2 Cor 2:14-16 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

So all, having been instructed of the Lord, will stand before the righteous Judge to receive their just reward and the reprobate will be without excuse. Rom 1:18-23

Blessings


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Dave wrote:
Excuse me lurker, that's what I said 4 or 5 comments n pretty much
I know, Dave.

I never said I disagreed with your position. If you thought I did then you assumed it.

The whole point of my posts has been the proper biblical meaning and use of the word predestination.

Thanks for the civil interaction.

Oh, btw. My comment about men making things difficult was not meant for anyone here.... but for Sproul and likeminded.


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Conner and Dave,

Wouldn't it be nice to be able to answer people with those questions thusly:

'No, God didn't predestine anyone to hell. In His purpose of election, God simply passed over those who were not His.... who He did not foreknow.... who were not given to His Son to redeem in time. He simply left them to their own devices and they will receive their just reward on judgment day.'

Sometime I marvel that learned, Godly men make something so difficult that is really quite simple.

Goodnight.


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Connor7 wrote:
Lurker, interesting concerning double predestination, off cuff I'd say that man's nature is rebellion towards God (which I'm sure you agree) you've got the elect who will be sons/daughters of God when regeneration and faith are granted (although regeneration must proceed faith)
I think that an objection to your conclusion (and I'm not saying double predestination is true, I'm still thinking about it) from an apologetic standpoint, someone might say, "Well, is there a purpose in them not being predestinationed to Hell? Did God choose them not to be chosen with or without a purpose to it?"
I don't think I'm speaking with the clarity I should be, but do you see where I'm getting at?
It could also be argued: Since God predestined some to be conformed to the image of His Son and the adoption of children, then it follows that He predestined the rest to damnation. That's a logical conclusion but it's not biblical. Predestination is a specific word with a specific meaning in context and we can't use it however we please. Its positive to the election but never used in a negative sense to the reprobation.

I would probably answer other objections in similar manner.

Blessings to all and good night.


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Dave wrote:
Dear lurker, God bless ☺️
Um how can you say that, I'm completely confused,
Not trying to put words in your mouth, just clarifying something, do you mean the Bible doesn't emphatically state predestination to heaven by God?
Hello Dave,

Short answer... Yes.

I just read Sproul's article posted by NeedHim. I agree with his big picture but he begins his argument from a false premise.... that is; predestination is both positive and negative. To get to that position he confuses the biblical meaning of predestination with election/reprobation, ordained, etc. Predestination is only positive: to be conformed to the image of Christ and unto the adoption of children. That's it so lets not add to what God gave us.

For that reason I reject the idea of double predestination. Its an argument that God never gave us the ammunition to engage in. For the election, all the promises belong to us, they are our inheritance, not the least of which is the blessed hope of spending eternity in heaven.

As for those God chose not to have mercy upon..... Need God do any more that justly judge them on the last day with righteous judgment and cast them into outer darkness? Have they not freely and willfully chosen the broad path to destruction?

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