I wish I could get some answers, on how to get a hold of this Alexis. My wife and I would so take care of her son, we have kids of our own and are faithful born again bible believers. But I can't find anything on her contact info. Also they are keeping her here until they figure out what they're going to do.
AMEN! brother. These Bibles they are burning are derived from the corrupt Westcott and Hort Greek New Testement Text which comes from the Codices Sianaticus and Vaticanus. One was found in a junk pile of an Egyptian monistary and one was found in the Vatican Library. There is a reason these manuscripts are so old - they were never used. There is a reason they were. Good Bibles are used and used Bibles wear out! These two witnesses (Sianaticus and Vaticanus) not only differ from the testemony of the Textus Receptus (where we get our King James or Autourized verion of the Bible from) but they also ontradict each other in numerous places. The ancient Greek texts that went into the Textus Receptus (majority text) are not only much more numerous but also concur with each other at a rate of about 98%. You be the judge. Would you believe the testemony of 2 witnesses who contradict each other in numerous places or a multitude of witnesses whose testamony is vertually the same? I have looked at the differences between the KJV and modern english translations like the NIV and NASB and they are markedly different and often put into question many doctrines held by the historical Christian faith. Is it any wonder that Churches that use the modern versions
The rcc has contradicted, itself, the bible and teaches heresy. Luk.12:1 Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. How about Isa.32:6 and Mat.23:28 They are apostates of Christ and the biblical church. Read Mat.7:15,24:11, Mar.12:22, 2Cor.11:13, 2Pet.2:1, 1John4:1, and Rev.20:10. There are so many verses against the rcc, that it's insane that people fall for it. If they would take the time to read the bible and study it, like 2Tim.2:15 says to do. If they would just stop listening to blind men, and start asking GOD to tell them what's truth, to show them truth. Then they would see that the rcc is the church of the devil and he's leading multitudes to hell. Don't you catholics think that the devil is powerful enough to deceive the rcc (he is called the king of this world), the bible says he is. Do you believe your bible or some guy claiming to be your holy father a title that GOD says is wrong. Matt.23:9-13
Itâ€™s threw Jesus alone we are washed, cleansed from all sin. We are Saved from death, not accountable for keeping the works of man or the law. Not that we shouldnâ€™t try to keep the law, but it wonâ€™t send us to hell anymore if your saved by faith in Jesus Christ threw the grace of GOD.
Rom 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
We inherit the righteousness of GOD. Now that is how I know for sure where Iâ€™m going when I die. Home with my Righteous, Heavenly Father.
There is plenty more scripture but we canâ€™t fit them all in one message. If you arenâ€™t getting this stuff from us, itâ€™s because the bible says that an unsaved person canâ€™t understand the Word of GOD.
jago wrote: "the Bible tells me so" If you read scripture with the assurance that it is true you are told that to be justified is to be sanctified and glorified. Rom 8: 30. and 1Cor 6: 11. Do we trust God's word or not?
You must be saved by grace, still nothing we do can get us to heaven, also it's our choice weather we go or not. I'll give proof from the bible.
Can anyone show me where the bible tells you that mary has anything to do with Salvation or going to Heaven. Other then being the mother of Christ. Also can anyone else on here tell us if you know for sure without a doubt that your going to Heaven, and how do you know that.
Lance Eccles wrote: Michael, I believe and do all these things.
You believe and do what? Also if it wasn't for Martin Luther (which the bible doesn't agree with all of His belief's either) I wouldn't have the bible that saved my soul from hell. I mean the KJV was a result of Martin Luther. The bible teaches that all of our works are counted as filthy rags. The bible says that there is nothing we can do ourselves to get to heaven, we must believe that Jesus is what GOD says in His Word(the whole gospel), not just say we do but really in our heart. Except what He did for us and repent(turn from our sin nature and turn to GODS will) of our sin. So threw reading that bible, asking for forgiveness by pleading the blood of Christ. Now I can say without a doubt that I'm going to heaven. The catholic church has been a big study of mine, to sum it up I found that they are so far from the truth that no one will ever turn them around, you would have to convince the whole church that they have been wrong for centuries. Also I found out that they are "the blind leading the blind", most catholics don't even know what the doctrines of catholicism are, what they believe personally, some don't even know why they go to church. A majority don't even go.
I believe GOD has shown me where I should be in life and that He is still leading me threw this walk. I also believe I'm in His will. I have been talking to GOD a lot about our debate, and I think He is telling me that your a brother in Christ. I really like debating, but I think GOD want's me to back off. This has nothing to do with not having more to debate, I just think He's telling me to love a little more and debate a little less. I think about this so much that I've been praying for you and your family, which I don't even know but GOD does. The one thing I like about this is that it makes you know what you believe and why. Also if there is something you don't know it makes you study it. I hope you understand why I'm backing down, and don't think it's because I wanted to, LOL. I really hope to talk with you in the near future about things concerning the bible. I look at you now as my brother in Christ. GODS just been telling me that we aren't getting any where with this debate, and that if we would talk about other things (iron sharpeneth iron) maybe we could learn some things and grow. If you don't ever that's cool, I'll still pray for you. My e-mail is always available. BYE for now, James
Neil wrote: "You have to believe that Jesus is not a created being or his sacrifice means nothing ... If you choose not to belive[sic] in Christ then you are lost" Mark, a lot of theology underlies your statements, none of which is mentioned in the Creed. And it says nothing about how Christ's death & resurrection *relates* to forgiveness of sins.
I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth. and in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. who was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit born of the Virgin Mary. suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day he rose again from the dead. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty. From thence he shall come again to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen.
Only one version of the creed doesn't say catholic church and that was the Lutheran form. I know without a doubt that the bible has the power to save, GOD's perfect Word, not a creed. It's true, I'm not denying that. But you seem to put to much faith in something that outlines the gospel, But isn't the breathed Word of GOD. Even catholic churches that don't believe the full Word of GOD use this creed, Just because they say they believe the creed don't mean nothing(I did). I can go to a crack house and find people that will say they believe, they might even be able to rehearse the creed. Read these verses Prov.16:25 1Jn.4:1,5:13 Mat.7:20-23
In 1Tim. 5:17 it may say rule, but if you dig deep enough youâ€™ll find that a pastor or a bishop is an elder. It isnâ€™t implying that all elders run the church just that an (one) elder does. An overseer or (Supervisor: Websterâ€™s 1828), has a boss that they would report back to. The only place they are referred to as a council that functions like a government, is in the Presbyterian church, called the Presbyteria council of elders.
Now to address this statement you made.
"A man" does not imply "one and only one man." The indefinite article means just that; the number is indefinite.
"A man" is used plural, your right there. But your not when you think it means in the same church. Itâ€™s used plural for the reason that more then one man is called in the office of a bishop to his own church, not the same church as another. Notice this verse in the same chapter: 1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) Man is also used plural, but in his own house not another manâ€™s. So do you think the word of GOD is telling you that you should have a board, or more then one man running your house. Also Read all of Heb. 5. I had more, but you can only fit so much. I have to wait until someone else enters a comment.
Neil wrote: "A man" does not imply "one and only one man." The indefinite article means just that; the number is indefinite. And you neglected the numerous other verses where elders are referred to in the plural, e.g. Acts 15:23, 16:4, 20:17, 21:18, 1 Tim 5:17, Titus 1:5, Jas. 5:14, 1 Pet. 5:1. The Biblical church has a plurality of elders.
But it never says that they are to run the church.
This is on part of scripture where you should notice that it says "a man" not many people or women or a board, still more to come, and for those that think house church is the way to go, read your new testament start with Act's. I know the bible supports house churches, only where there isn't a bible preaching, new testament church, and you are just starting out. Not a rebellious state of Christianity.
1Ti 3:1 This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 1Ti 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 1Ti 3:3 Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 1Ti 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 1Ti 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) 1Ti 3:6 Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 1Ti 3:7 Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
Why would you take statements of mine out of context, kind of like these misled religious groups out there in this world tend to take bible verses out of context and run with them. Like right after the first statement you took, it says (that is run by GOD.) Also I would like to see any bible verses that back up or support a board running the church. The board does give opinions, but the man of GOD ( a term lost in this new age form of Christianity) is who goes to GOD threw prayer (like Moses, Joshua, David and all of the prophets did) and searches scripture to find GOD's will in every matter. People these days don't like anything they can't explain or control. My church is led by the Holy Spirit which leads my Pastor.