Neil wrote: Sounds like a political bone thrown to the "Religious Right." This is not "putting God back into schools;" it is permission to display a trite theistic slogan, already on all our coins, which is so equivocal, it's meaningless. Given how many Americans behave, I would guess this god would be their bellies (Phil. 3:19). If public schools *did* teach theology, they'd probably get it wrong anyway. Look at the wasteland of privately-funded theological seminaries. Be careful what you wish for.
Well said Neil! The last thing I would want as a parent is for any public school to teach my children scriptures or to even pray with them.
Most churches are politically correct these days. Can anyone imagine how PC schools would be?
Alexander Tyler (Lord Woodhouselee, Alexander Fraser Tyler a Scottish historian/professor who wrote several books in the late 1700s and early 1800s.)
When the thirteen colonies were still a part of England, Professor Alexander Tyler wrote about the fall of the Athenian republic over two thousand years previous to that time:
"A democracy [or republic] cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship.
So many of the news articles we read deal with the way the murdered bodies of aborted babies are treated. Now, I am not saying that issue is not important and that there is not a moral issue involved. But, more often than not to me it is a form of misdirection. IOW, what real difference does it make if their remains are thrown in a trash can or flushed down a toilet? The murder of the unborn somehow becomes secondary. The woman undergoing the abortion or the medical staff involved are somehow left in the shadows.
Anyway, Iâ€™m sure there are those who disagree with me, but it is simply the way I see it. Abortion is murder and those involved should be prosecuted for murder or accessory to murder.
Dr. Tim wrote: Since Muslims mistreat women, Don, are you suggesting that Christians should ignore the Bible on marital relations?
Thanks for your comment. Iâ€™m not sure what Don was implying, but since he didnâ€™t respond to you, I will. As you already know, Muslims consider women to be inferior to men. Christian men consider men and women to be equal in worth, but have different roles and responsibilities.
There is nothing that anyone can do to undo the damage done to gender roles, but we should speak out against it when the opportunity presents itself.
James Thomas wrote: Seems like an appropriate place to announce. My beautiful grand daughter was delivered at 9 am this morning and She is as beautiful as her mother. God has blessed both and I am so thankful to our most wonderful ever loving God for holding them in His hands through her delivery.
That is wonderful news brother; thanks for sharing it. Yes, our Lord is to be praised for His love and blessings.
Franklin Graham and Pence share the same faith; a name it claim it and culturally conservative faith that picks and chooses what to obey from Godâ€™s word and believe in practicing what is referred to as the greater good concept. Both have sold themselves to this world. If anyone can give credence to Trumpâ€™s faith, then what faith do they have? Here is what Paul thought of the greater good concept:
Romans 3:8 And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
The moral changes we have seen from Trump/Pence are simply to appease their base. IOW, nothing of significance has changed in the way our government heeds Godâ€™s word; abortion, homosexuality, greed and feminism are still striving.
Why is it that when fundamentalist and evangelical Pastors preach against feminism and for the necessity of married women to be submissive and obedient to their husbands as unto the Lord, they almost invariably assuage their comments by interjecting the duties of married men to love their wives as Christ loved the church and to not treat their wives as inferior or as slaves or objects in response to their submission. The usual sentence goes something like this; â€śnow men this doesnâ€™t give you the right to be dictatorialâ€ť. Or worse than that is the comment that God didnâ€™t take Eve from Adamâ€™s foot, so â€¦ Some would say these folks are simply teaching the whole council of God. If that is true why is not the converse also true? Why when they teach about the roles of men do they not normally interject the roles of women in any assuaging fashion. Men are to love their wives as Christ loves His church and women are to obey and be submissive to their husbands as unto the Lord. See that wasnâ€™t hard at all!
Isaiah 40:15 Behold, the nations [are] as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance: behold, he taketh up the isles as a very little thing.
Isaiah 40:17 All nations before him [are] as nothing; and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Daniel 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth [are] reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and [among] the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
Psalms 2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying], 3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. 4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. 5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. 6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
Psalms 59:8 But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision.
Revelations 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
John UK wrote: Thanks for that info, Frank. Any professing Christian who signs such a thing as the Manhattan Declaration leaves himself open to doubt as to whether or not he understands what a Christian actually is. For me, I don't think he does, based upon that one thing.
Well said Pilgrim! I have never really pondered whether or not he was a Christian, but simply that he did something heretical by signing that document. I read many exchanges he had with other Christians and he refused to recant his signature. IMO, if someone draws others away from the faith publicly, then they have to publicly repent or I simply separate from them in whatever way is available to me.
As an aside, I did contact Mohler regarding the homosexual gene, but not the Manhattan Declaration. He did have tons of exchanges that were public and I did read many of them.
I hope you are doing well!
I have been reading Pilgrim's Progress just about every day. Believe it or not it is the first real book I have read using a tablet. That sort of thing doesn't come easy for us old-timers! It is very interesting and thanks again for recommending it.
Praying wrote: Thanks Frank for that closed minded post. Always nice to at least see someone who is honest? You may not agree with everything that Albert Mohlar says or does, but you could nicely and kindly email him asking why he did what he did. I think, if done in a loving and humble way, he would probably tell you why he did it. Heâ€™s a doctor; heâ€™s not stupid; but he is a sinner. If he needs to repent, the best thing that we can do is to pray for God to let him see that.
How do you know I didn't contact him with my concerns? And how do you know that I didn't pray for him?
Each of us draw lines and my lines would not be the same as yours or others. But, that does not make them closed minded!
I simply think that he is part of the problem he is arguing against and I stated my reasoning.
Well, I will give a onetime response to those who think it is okay to get a tattoo. I am not saying we come under the Mosaic law. All I did was give an example that said not to get tattooed. I think the majority opinion is that tattoos back then were associated with pagans.
Now when I was growing up tattoos were rare and were generally associated with gangs or those who were rebelling against society. As time went on, they became much more common and now they are not frowned upon at all. Iâ€™m not all sure what they are designed to do because most admit they are not attractive especially on women. Women get them because to them it is a form of liberation. If the guys can do it, then we can do it.
So, if the naysayers want to disfigure themselves and look more like the world; go for it.
Well I think Mohler should ask himself how much he is personally to blame for this slide into apostasy. In the below link he made comments regarding a â€śpossibleâ€ť homosexual gene that confused many and to the best of my knowledge he didnâ€™t retract anything.
He also signed the Manhattan Declaration that clearly asserted that catholicism and the Greek Orthodox Church were both Christian organizations. He was publicly asked to renounce his signature, but refused.
Now he can spin away the homosexual gene controversy, but it is impossible to spin away his signing of the Manhattan Declaration. I donâ€™t know if Mohler is a true Christian or not, but I refuse to read or listen to anything done by him.
Our world has liberals, so called moderates, and fake conservatives that control the mores of society. Like I often say, they are simply different shades of the same color. Whenever we acknowledge them having a real Christian moral standard, then we are simply dummying down the blessed gospel of our Lord and Savior.
If someone is in Christ, they are His servants; if someone is not in Christ, then all their works are meaningless.
But just think, one day this evil sin filled world will pass away and then comes eternity.
John UK wrote: How true, sister. The new covenant is all about blood, just as the old covenant was. John 6:53 KJV (53)Â Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. And to make sure we get that right: Romans 3:25 KJV (25)Â Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Ephesians 1:7 KJV (7)Â In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace. Colossians 1:14 KJV (14)Â In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins. No blood, no salvation. No satisfaction for sin, no salvation. It is the only way, for all the world, for all have sinned and come short. Faith in Christ's blood is the only way. It's the new covenant.
Yes, brother and Christâ€™s sacrifice was once and for all time. All true believers are being transformed into the image of the Son, so the below applies to all those who walk by the true faith.
Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
MS wrote: Anyone else hear the hsss. of the serpent?
You know most don't know that there are actually catholic apologists that make a living doing that; and some make a very good living doing that. I believe our catholic troll is in training to do just that, but then no one will ever truly know?
And here we thought he was simply trying to gather information so that he could make an informed decision.
MS wrote: Frank wrote: â€śThe RCC is a cult, pure and simple.Shame on anyone who belongs to it or who promotes itâ€ť. Well said. The Romanist propagandist is quite busy on this forum twisting Scripture to promote and defend his cult.
Amen sister! The youtube posted by Gay allen is really good. It is also very long, but I am still listening to it. The RCC literally has every characteristic of a cult.
Gay Allen wrote: this reminds me of Sister Charlotte's testimony https://youtu.be/H5TyNPG88aU everyone have a Blessed Day
Well, I listened to part of the youtube and it was done very well. It shows how nuns are simply taught to worship the priests and other male clergy in the catholic church. It doesnâ€™t matter to the indoctrinated just how evil that system and their leaders are.
We are the spiritual brides of Christ, not some church or denomination. The RCC is a cult, pure and simple. Shame on anyone who belongs to it or who promotes it.
Gay Allen wrote: some doctors are murderers, just like some firefighters are pyromaniacs and some police are criminals, they don't care to psychologically weed them out because death and mayhem are of the devil and thats how "they" like the world, i can hardly wait to leave this wicked fallen world
Outstanding comment and thoughts! The below says what you are saying:
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.