...for the record, I think Psalms only singing is the safest choice, especially in today's church, but at the same time, I believe that there are many, Spirit inspired, and Spirit-filled, praise and worship songs that are fully acceptable, and perfectly scriptural.
"I can say that it is a wise choice to obey God in his word and sing psalms."
"I would advise you to obey God and sing just the psalms."
"I would say that it is always safe to obey God, especially in the manner of worship."
"So the answer to your question is "yes" to all."
"Does that's help any?" Hmmm...sorry, but I'm not quite sure, because it sounds like you're saying two different things. I'm not trying to be difficult, and probably just mis-understanding you. You said the answer was a blanket, "yes" to my questions, but at the same time, in the three quotes above, you mentioned obeying God, bringing me back to Psalms only singing being a command, as you see it.
I'm just trying to get a grasp on your thoughts and position so I can fully understand them when this topic comes up, and again, not trying to argue, or even promote anything at this point...Just trying to see clearly, because I think we all are mis-understood at times with the way we word things.
Thanks John, but I'm still trying to nail you down, so I'll ask what's below again. I'm not trying to trap you or argue, so please, let's not slip into that. I've already told you that I'm not certain about the topic, and that's the best I can do right now, so quoting, "personal preference", is mis-leading, because it's not a decision I'm promoting, it's my present understanding. I totally agree with you if your position is the latter half of the quote below. I think it would be far safer, and easier to designate Pslams only singing in today's church to keep things on perfect track in that area, rather than having an endless list of all the can do's, and can't do's, and we can sing this, but we can't sing that, etc., not to mention, each member would have their own take on what's acceptable, and what's not, so it would be an endless mess, and constant contention.
What think ye of my thoughts?
"Good morning John, maybe I've been mis-understanding then...is your argument that Psalms singing is a command, or more of a wise choice, sound advice, and always perfectly safe?"
Jim Wrote: "There's no doubt that Trudeau is a Liberal, in more ways one, https://tinyurl.com/y6ngf3uc but what does this movie have to do with Trudeau? He's probably like 95% of the Canadian population and never heard of it. If he has heard of it, I like to hear about it"
Hi Jim, no, Trudeau and Unplanned have nothing to do with each other, but being staunchly pro-death, I'd have to be convinced that he'd be clueless if asked about the movie. Instead of saying, "Huh? Unplanned?", he'd respond, "Unplanned, eh? No distributors, eh? I ain't gonna be no keener Canuck to no pro-lifers...not in my Canada, eh!"
John UK Wrote: "Let us imagine that a few of our group have been down to the Christian bookstore and bought several Hillsong CD's. They have chosen five songs that they personally really like, and typed out the words. Two can play guitars, one can play drums, and they ask you as pastor if they can lead worship the following Sunday morning, singing these songs. What will you say to them?"
Good morning John, maybe I've been mis-understanding then...is your argument that Psalms singing is a command, or more of a wise choice, sound advice, and always perfectly safe?
...I mentioned all of that concerning affliction, to make my point on the Psalms singing, based upon the same logic. "Is any merry...let him sing Psalms". James' first question, and remedy can be, and often should be expanded on, depending upon the affliction, so with that in mind, James' "advice" to pray can't be a strict command from God, as in, anyone who is ever afflicted with anything, is commanded to pray, pray alone, and not seek out any other appropriate treatment.
The point I'm trying to make is that if James' first question, and his answer to that question isn't, and can't be a strict command, logically, then how can his second question pertaining to Psalms singing be taken any different, and in any other way than simple personal preference and wise advice, but nothing more than advice?
I'll be interested in what you think about how I'm viewing it, and wouldn't mind anyone elses thoughts on it. I don't know for certain, but this is how I'm interpreting James 5:13 at the moment.
James 5:13 KJV (13) Is any among you afflicted? let him pray. Is any merry? let him sing psalms.
Hi John, I'm going against my better judgement getting involved in this, but this will probably be my my only post on the topic anyway. I've been following this conversation today, and I'm still not convinced that it's not a matter of personal preference.
I'd like to break down James 5:13 a bit, as I see it. I'm not interested in arguing with anyone though, just posting up my immediate thoughts.
Overall, I view James 5:13, not as a command from God, but rather as, "This is what I do", sort of advice from James at the time. James: "When I'm afflicted, I pray, and when I feel merry, I sing Psalms...you should try it out".
"Is any among you afflicted...let him pray" Sometimes we can add with common sense, and not be in sin. For example, an affliction can mean countless things, but let's use a physical one for mine: James "recommends" prayer, but is medical attention, and maybe medicine in order as well? This would be adding appropriate common sense to James' words, which I view as his own personal advice, and good advice, but advice that can be expanded upon.
No distributors...just goes to show how hardline everyone is against pro-life, because they're sacrificing millions for their liberal agenda. Justin Trudeau must be thrilled, being a raging, pro-murder, hard left liberal.
Dr Tim Wrote: "No, Christopher, the reason you donât have trash dumps is because New Englanders are too stingy to throw anything away. Thatâs why your mini-storage areas are filled with âtreasuresâ such as keys from old sardine cans and bundles of pre-UPC Twinkie wrappers."
So predictable. A typical, Southern hickbilly, always deflecting, because the cold, hard truth is so depressing. The deep South is one, ginormous landfill, with a lot of happy hickbillies using it to play, whack a mole, and find treats to eat.
JaG Wrote: "You oughta see if Chris000 could look in those Yankee dumps up there, and see if someone threw away some pie pans. They would give your cart a nice shiny look, and tell everybody when your coming so they can run away..."
We don't have any trash dumps up here. All of our garbage gets overnighted, daily, to you people down there, so you can go treasure hunting for gifts to give your kin, and find stuff to eat.
Gay Allen Wrote: "Hey Christopher and everybody hows it going, good with God i hope, i am experiencing a bunch of problems irl, but now i have a better understanding and relationship with Our Father in heaven, He has been spanking me, i have been thanking Him, to the glory of God."
Hi Gay, sorry to hear about the personal issues, but I was glad to read the rest. The changes in you over the years have been remarkable, and I'm really glad that you keep looking up; trusting and depending more upon Him. Life has its travails, that's for sure, and being in Christ doesn't make it all go away. In fact, I'd say that our battles are increased, exponentially as we also have to battle this flesh, daily, once we begin anew.
Hang in there, because it's not forever. Our lives seem long and hard but they're just a little, tiny blip in the grand scheme, and releif is in sight.đ
While Falun Gong isn't The Way, it seems to me that whenever any government persecutes any false religion or cult, it backfires on them. I think it causes the persecuted to dig in even deeper, because they come to believe, with even more ferver, that their way is/must be The Way, simply because of the hard persecution against them/it, so they're even willing to give up their lives for what they perceive as truth, that to them, the persecutors are confirming.
Reminds me of Christians who are in gross error. People come against them, and scorn them for this and that; trying to correct the error(s) they are promoting, but the backlash is received as being persecuted for Christ's sake, as living martyrs.
God provided His Living Word, for any and all; clear, concise, and simple...we will all be without excuse in the end, whether that means being in gross, scriptural error, dedicating ones life to gods or goddesses that never were, mother Earth; nature worship, or choosing to serve Satan himself...nobody will be able to claim ignorance, or being duped by some false teacher or prophet, etc. God made The Way, simple and clear, for any and all.
Matthew 7:23 ...And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Interesting thoughts, and breakdown, John. You're right in saying that the numbers are fluid, really, and change daily. The new tax laws are the most complicated, ever, I've heard, so I'm glad to have who I do as my accountant/advisor. Last year, when I questioned the large refund, which would have triggered an audit, he told me that in 30+yrs, he's had one, single account audited, so not a bad teack record (I think).
Quite so, QC, and I should have led off with what you said about it being a Christians characteristic to want to be fully honest.
The headline is misleading, and is about and IRS survey, and income tax. I don't know why people bother to cheat, and risk an audit. As a business owner, that's the last thing Is want, and so far, so good. My accountant is an ex-IRS auditor who I've used since I began my company, so he definitely knows what to do, and what not to do, etc. I was fortunate to have had him referred by a friend.
The only "almost" issue I had was two tax seasons ago, when I dropped my stuff off 2wks before the file date, April 15th. Due to the time constraint, he handed my package off to one of his associates, and when I called to see what the damage was, I was getting a large return that I wasn't expecting. I questioned it, and after verifying his associates numbers, found that she had doubled something, which would have redflagged me for a guaranteed audit, so, whew! Close one.
Anyway, I know many have complained about the limit on property taxes, and other reductions here and there, but the child tax credit was doubled for those with kids, the standard, automatic deduction is at 24k, and the greatest thing for we, small business owners is that we can shave 20% off of our net profit, dramatically reducing our taxable income.
I was just listening to some news headlines on talk radio, and a liberal Democrat was speaking about how a woman's right to murder the babys they carry, is under assault. The thing that caught my attention, was when she said, "it's morally repugnant".
Imagine that. Trying to save little, helpless human lives is morally repugnant. Denying women their "right" to murder, on-demand, and for any reason, whatsoever, is morally repugnant. The right to murder is celebrated, but the right to life, well, that's morally repugnant. A baby in the womb, is a disgusting, repugnant nothing, and has no rights, simply because the child hasn't been delivered yet?
Wow to them all. The daily mass-murder of infants is no different than lining up 1000's of toddlers and young children, and dumping acid on them, or having them all drawn and quartered. Would the same people still laugh, have partys to celebrate, and still fight for the right to murder all of those children? Why not...because they can see them? Because they've been delivered? Ridiculous, wicked humans.
"Police say the diocese has hidden records of complaints about priests, including former St. Cecilia pastor Rev. Edmundo Paredes."
I'm glad that many have, and still are, falling away from this false, and diabolical system, but where are they landing, is my concern? This false system dooms them while they remain with them, faithful, and in a state of grace, and it dooms them as they depart; pronouncing them, ananthema. The system, I believe, dooms them in another way now, as the "faithful" become disillusioned, and venture on to Athiesm, Agnosticism, and the metaphysical, etc. They believed the church of Rome was their salvation, so where do they go, and what do they do when everything they knew, and believed in, implodes, so the church dooms them, thrice.
I hope the bulk of them decide to start fresh, praying fervently, and unceasingly, opening their minds, grabbing their bibles, and begin to re-learn everything; slowly reversing all of the hardwired lies.
The "one true church", and its doctrines, traditions, rituals, and magisterium, are wickedness, and it's Popes, Bishops, and Priests, evil incarnate, under the outward guise of holiness, piety, and soft, inviting speech, sprinkled with just the right amount of scripture to complete the illusion.
I would add that Mormonism is of very recent invention, being invented by Joseph Smith in 1830. Do you believe that God allowed the whole of mankind, up until 1830, to be condemned, and miss out on the spirit paradise, and the three degrees of glory, because He chose to withhold very important information that we needed?
Smith practiced religious folk magic, and magic supernaturalism, such as divining, and searching for treasure by peering into a seer stone, etc. His parents and grandparents also claimed to be seers; saying they would have visions, and receive secret messages from God, etc. Unfortunately, young Joseph grew up around this sort of supernaturalism, and metaphysics that he took a big step further, later on, as a mass con, or which allowed him to eventually be deceived by Satan, or a very high ranking fallen angel, and invent Mormonism.
Consider this: Just as every other false religion, and cult, were invented in more recent years, save for Islam and Buddism, etc., so was Mormonism invented by a mere man around 1830, and just as every other false religion and cult is, Mormonism, according to God-breathed scripture, is fully anti-bible, anti-God, and anti-Christ, in all it teaches and believes.
Always strange to me that people who claim to be Athiest, spend their waking hours battling against a God that they claim doesn't even exist. They form alliances, associations, non-profits, and they make full use of the legal arms, like the ACLU, to wage war against a God they claim doesn't exist. Seems to me that if they truly believed He doesn't exist, then they wouldn't do anything more than grimace at our foolishness, and make smart comments, etc. No, I think they just hate anyone who condemns their lusts, and immoral behaviors and views, etc. I just don't know what else would explain their hatred of The Living God; a God they claim is nothing more than pure fiction, and utter foolishness. They seem threatened, more than anything else...
Dr Tim Wrote: "Epiphany, Christopher? Didnât he design lamps, jewelry and other gewgaws?"
Gewgaws? Hillbillyspeak for doodads, doohickeys, whatchamacallits, and dem dar tings? I feel 5% dumber everytime I finish reading anything scribbled out by a mangy, backwoods mountain chipmunk whisperer.
"The Equality Act would "force Americans to participate in events and speak messages that violate their core beliefs, all in the name of an 'equality' that tolerates no dissenters," she said in a written statement.
It also would erode equality for women "by denying female athletes fair competition in sports, depriving women of business opportunities designed for them, and forcing them to share private, intimate spaces with men who identify as female." Waggoner said."
There are two teenage boys on the girl's track team at a high school in Connecticut. The boys identify as females, so of course, they are treated as girls. Due to the fact that they are naturally, stronger and faster than any of the girls, they have blown away every girls track record, and haven't been beat in any competition. The opposing teams always cry foul, and rightly so, but even the girls on their own team are crying foul because the two trans boys are stealing away their potential scholarships. When interviewed by the local media, the parents accuse the detractors of being jealous of their boys, and when asked about the overall fairness, the boys respond, "Well, the girls just need to run faster". Liberals gone mad.