Many don't realize that anti-depressants are trial and error drugs. A person often needs to go through many different drugs over a long period of time since each drug can take 30-60days for any effects to be noticed. Then, if one doesn't work, it's on to the next one, and the next one. Then, if they find that one finally seems to help, there's the process of getting the dosage right. All of the warnings are consistent, even with the new drugs that are suppose to compliment the anti-depressants, and those warnings include convulsions, and suicide, etc. Yikes. The human brain is nothing to be messed with, especially when the manufacturers admit that they dont know how the drugs even work, really.
I hope this doesn't get nasty...Mike is entitled to his view, just as anyone else is. The version issue isn't a salvation issue, and is definitely one of those topics where most should agree to disagree, and leave it at that, because it's a very rare occasion that one will sway the other. There sure are versions to steer clear of, but the topic should never pit Christian against Christian, as if one is isn't saved, or even a fool, etc. The main problem that always arises is that there's rarely any discussion, but rather, people talking at each other, which then digresses into the negative, causing both to take defensive postures, and then, what's the point of even going on, other than to win a fight? Passion can be an ugly thing at times.
One thing that many don't seem to be aware of is that this kid was picked up a mile from the school while casually strolling through a residential neighborhood. After he murdered/injured all of those people, even shooting some right in the head, he stopped at a convenience store, and also grabbed a soda at a McDonalds. His nonchalant and cavalier attitude over what He had just done, reminded me of the two 12yr old girls from Waukesha, WI, a few years ago, who stabbed their childhood friend, also 12yrs old, 19-times by order of "Slender man". Just hours following the brutal attack and attempted murder, they spoke of it and described the event like it was no big deal. There's something terribly wrong and missing in kids and adults like this.
Good morning, IE...Gloria and Kenneth Copeland...ðŸ˜
He was one of those, along with Kenneth Hagin, I think, who were on a stage one time while acting as if they were having an hilarious conversation in tongues for about 10min or more. I was embarrassed for them, but the thousands in attendance seemed to think it was the coolest and greatest thing. They feigned as if they really understood each other, and was one of the most ridiculous feats of deception I've ever seen. Yeah, how many people have these two turned off from the faith; becoming disillusioned because life didn't go perfectly for them, or they became Ill from time to time, or whatever. How many thought that God wasn't with them, or even that they weren't saved because of normal life events, that according to the Copelands, shouldn't happen to born again Christians? Perfect examples of wolves amongst the fold...
The ladies of the view, the longtime regulars, anyway, but especially Whoopi Goldberg, is one of the most ultra-liberal, hate-filled, and bigoted women I've come across. The show is toxic, and does nothing but promote anger, hate, and plants many seeds without any useful facts to back up their damaging innuendos and accusations. Hardly fair and balanced, that's for sure.
Let me add, US, that even though you did/said nothing wrong, I really appreciate the fact that you felt the need to do some introspection. Some don't have the ability to be honest with themselves and spend their lives blaming others for the toxic situations that they, themselves cause. This isn't you, of course, but I like that you are concerned enough to take a step back and evaluate. This is one of the marks of a true blue Christian who is doing their best to be like Him.
Hi Frank, I had to give it a little thought, because I was separating the two, but think I understand what you're saying. I'm not sure the two cam be separate entities when calling anyone a roll model. Replace Mormon with, say, a Satanist or an Athiest...both can be wonderful people, according to this world's standards, and do many great things, but they're still a Satanist and an Athiest, haters of the living God, so I think referring to them as role models, as a born again Christian, can cause great confusion, and even soften the truth of what they're really about.
Unprofitable Servant from TN writes: to the brethren, since I have been said to be argumentative, trying to pick a fight, easily offended and one who snipes at most people here, will refrain from posting for a time. Beg forgiveness and will pray that God will grant me a humbler more gentle spirit. God bless.
Are you kidding me. I typed up a comment yesterday, but never hit submit, and then Lurker beat me to it. My comment was basically to anyone newer, asking them to get to know the various personalities before passing any judgement, because once they do, they won't take most so personal. I went on to say that you simply say what's on your mind and are direct. The guys don't know you, and mis-read you...simple as that, US, so I hope you reconsider if it's based solely on a couple of comnents.
Penny Wrote: I'd sure love to hear from her why she isn't going to mass anymore. Guess I'm kind of curious! (if you don't mind me asking, is there a friendship there between you two even with all the craziness?)
I don't mind at all,.and the answer is, no...very, very toxic, and for years now. This is the reason for the occasional mood swing here, : ) very quiet at times, and the reason I'm normally very inconsistent with emails.
Thanks Penny, good to hear. I'll do just that, but getting her on here, or to take any interest at all would take a bonafide miracle. Always appreciate any prayers though because she's in dire spiritual shape As an example, I think you know that she's Roman Catholic. She has gone to mass, faithfully, and never missing one since childhood. She stopped going, completely, a couple of years ago. Normally, this would be a great thing, but in her case, it's a huge red flag to how she's allowed the world to sneak in and take complete control, and her abandonment of all things God, etc.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ(God)is the same yesterday, today, and forever.
The God of the Bible does not change, or roll with the times of man. I don't know how many times I've seen "Christian" sodomites on social media responding to their detractors and "bigots", as they refer to them, by saying, "Our Jesus loves everyone...our Jesus isn't a bigot". Today's society has created it's own version of God; a capricious, fluid, God who changes with the times and at the whims of man, while throwing His arms up into the air as He says, "Ok, I give up guys...you win. My laws and rules for Christian living are antiquated, and you called me on it...do and love as you will, and just be you, with my blessings". Hmmm.
I always admire anyone who speaks up, loud and proud, and without embarrassment or concern for what others might think, especially in today's, don't talk about God, environment. Good for him. Once he mentioned Glen Beck, I immediately thought, Mormon, but that wasn't fair, and didn't notice any references to it in the article. People like him are a good wake-up call, to me anyway, because I tend to be a closet Christian. I don't hide that I'm a Christian, but know that I should be doing much, much more, and that's something that's always on my mind. I'm wondering what some of you do to make a difference, spread the gospel, and make your mark; do your duty as a Christian? I know that not everyone can stand on a corner and preach, but volunteer at soup kitchens? Neighborhood bible studys, maybe? Leave tracts around town? Just wondering what some of you do, or have a passion for, etc.
John, you're smarter than that. Withholding pertinent information, and doing it with malcontent because you knew that providing it would not work in your favor, is lying by omission. Trying to justify it by stating that the Pastor didn't ask, or that it wasn't any of his business, doesn't work with this one. I believe that you know you're in the wrong, and assuming this or that with the other couple has nothing to do with you, personally, and shouldn't even come into play.
Hey Watcher, hope you're doing good. I read an article just this morning on what you commented on. He and his brother were adopted as infants, I believe, but had a good life and home. The father passed, and the mother filled the role for both, always keeping them busy with fun things and activities, and never wanted for anything, etc. Apparently, the adoptive mother died last year, I believe. Both of the boys did have behavioral problems, and the shooter was in therapy for some time, but hadn't gone in a while. Shortly before the shooting, like the day before or something, he had a fight with his new girlfriends ex, so who know what made him snap, or maybe it was a lot of things together. I'm sure you know that he made a comment on a YouTube channel just last year saying that he was going to be a "professional school shooter". The FBI took the information, but couldn't track down who actually made the comment at the time. Not sure how they know now all of a sudden.
I don't know how any parent deals with the loss of a child, especially in such a tragic way. I can't imagine what the parents, siblings, and grandparents, etc., are experiencing, emotionally, at this very moment. The thing that adds even more to the heartache is when we start seeing the faces of those who lost their lives, and over what...because some kid was angry?