Watcher wrote:
And the storm begins yet again...

My Own 2 cents wrote:
Challenge said,
"If you are so sure call them out! Vague accusations serve only your ego."
Yea, that would be awesome if we could find out the perpetrators. I already asked him to be more precise but I got no answer. 😯

John UK wrote:
I see the clique has reformed, some with new monikers. No wonder the peace of the forum has been adversely affected.
Just sayin'.

3 Certain Signs wrote:
These signs are the outworking of God's grace in a person's life. In other words these are demonstrable signs in one who is already saved, even though they may not be certain of it!
As for your worry, I think the principle expressed at:

John UK wrote:
think you will find that there are many on this site who enjoy good Christian fellowship right here, and it is why they are here. A genuine Christian will always desire fellowship with others of like mind, not only for encouragement, but to give to others also.

3 Certain Signs wrote:
3) The family bond
i In Acts 2:42 we can see that following their conversion the believers immediately drew towards one another for fellowship, creating a kinship as we see in 1 John 3:14.
ii Fellowship should be a compulsion for a believer and we should be drawn into the spiritual family of a local church.
iii If an individual shows no signs of a need for fellowship, or want to talk of the things of God it is unlikely that they are saved

Is fellowship necessary for salvation???

Where in Scripture do we find that 'fellowship' is essential to salvation?

John UK wrote:
If you apply a little logic, you will see it. It is true, yes, that one who is regenerate is saved forever. They cannot be lost.
Now if, as Presby says, the man is born again and indwelt by the Spirit while he is dead in his sins, and then he suffers a heart attack and dies before he repents, he is saved without any repentance or faith. Is that clear enough?

John UK wrote:
Maybe you have not followed the debate for long?
The claim has been made that the indwelling of the Spirit is the same as baptism with the Spirit, and that this occurs with the man being totally passive. That is, the Holy Ghost comes to dwell within a bemused sinner against his will.
Now if a man that is born again is forever saved, he is saved without believing nor repenting of his sins. See what I mean? It cannot be. God has chosen not to work like that.

Search Your Bible wrote:
Divorce + Remarriage = Adultery