Adriel wrote: I suppose the Mormon god will agree to whatever his followers will believe. A bit like the Liberals god. However the truth has other ideas. Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet." Pity these groups cannot read the Bible.
They read ***A*** bible for sure. But it's corrupt and edited to agree with their whims. That's where the danger lies.
The Quiet Christian wrote: Absolutley, BW. Getting rid of these Christians is part of the strategy. BTW, anyone noticed how Hawaii is doing these days? While not so much on the national radar as a spreader of liberalism, it is one of the more Leftists states in the US. They've been pummeled by natural disasters, war fears, etc. Could it be that the Lord is shaking them to gain their attention? What would happen to California if Christians leave that state? How many other states/provinces are also guilty and so deserving? Should not we all repent and pray for the God's mercy?
God deals with people individually. God promised in Romans 1 that He would abandon those who turned their backs on Him and began worshiping His creation instead. Could it be that God has taken away His hand of protection from California and this is why we see such destruction and moral decay?
The Quiet Christian wrote: I'm not so sure it won't be the other way around, BW.
Perhaps. I guess time will tell, won't it? But it amazing to see how much of Christianity embraces Catholicism as its brother. I also read an article a while back saying that Muslims are going to mass. Now, they are either doing so because they are starting to embrace the RCC or they are infiltrating the RCC in order to take over. So, who knows? Only God.
Dr. Tim wrote: "Heavenly Father loves us for who we are. He wants us to be happy, as long as we're treating people well and we're being who we truly are and we're not hurting anyone." Wow. She must have spent months looking up all the scriptures that support THAT opinion. Suppose "who we truly are" is Hitler or Stalin? Good to go, right?
Careful, you might start sounding like me Dr. But yes, when people close the scriptures, they will agree with anything. Mormons are deceived and this yet another nail in their coffin.
unreal wrote: I just heard on the radio they are removing clocks off the walls of schools because it is claimed the children cannot read time off a clock anymore. The degeneration of the American mind is beyond comprehension. The Antichrist and pagan video games, mtv, youtube, schooling will make sure no one even knows what the Bible is, or if they do label it as a book of hate speech never to be opened or to be called a racist/redneck in punishment.
Can this be verified? My goodness. What's next? We are truly entering another dark ages. God help us.
ladybug wrote: Concerning Watchman Nee, he learned most of his doctrine from woman preachers and authors of his day and earlier, since â€śclose association with women evangelists and teachers was characteristic of his early career.â€ťNeeâ€™s mother went on to become â€śa well-known Methodist preacher, whose speaking tours included her native Chinaâ€ť and abroad. Neeâ€™s book, rejecting sola Scriptura for truth based on both â€śthe Word and experience,â€ť leans heavily upon Penn-Lewis and Roberts for its views on spiritual warfare and other topics, as he â€śdelved into . . . Jessie Penn-Lewis on the questions of soul and spirit and of triumph over Satanic power.The book Neeâ€™s â€śLittle Flockâ€ť denomination was thus birthed in connection with the ministry of...
People will flock to these mystics and apostates because they will always give them what they want, not what they need. Whilst people like us will strive to put the fires of deception out, these deceivers will convince people to douse themselves with gasoline. It's hard to fight the deception but proclaim the truth we must, as all of us will be held accountable one day for our actions, decisions and lack thereof. Blessings sister!
Connor7 wrote: I still can't get over the "God help you if Trump becomes a Hitler" because Been Watching has, I doubt, done any self reflection on the implications of his viewpoint, hope he comes back on and that he will defend his position.
This is my last comment on this subject (I know I said that before, but I guess I'm a glutton for punishment). I have prayed about this extensively and feel impressed to say the following. Hopefully everyone can at least understand where I'm coming from.
What did I mean by my statement?
Besides Hitler's beliefs and lifestyle, he brought much good out of Germany. He got them back on their feet. He restored the economy and was a great shot in the arm for the country. But...oh but he was preparing. He was working behind the scenes to pave the way for his dreaded third Reich.
Could Trump be paving the way for something?
Could Trump be working toward an end that might make those who voted for him quite remorseful one day? Imagine those who voted for Hitler initially? Imagine their remorse when some of them voted for him because he was the lesser evil?
As ripples in a pond affect everything on the surface of the water, so does our actions affect everything they come in contact with until the en
Jim Lincoln wrote: You have to be a hypocrite at best to support Trump. If you voted for The Don for President I can say shame on him! if you continue to support him I can say shame on you lbug I didn't know that Obama won a third term. He has nothing to do with the conversation. He wasn't President during Hurricane Maria. Sent your contribution into the Salvation Army for Hurricane Maria relief, yet? Too repeat myself, --[URL=http://tinyurl.com/y9unmq54]]]http://tinyurl.com/y9unmq54 (Under Trump, America's religious right is rewriting its code of ethics)[/URL
Yes, Christians, this is the man you support. Good for you!
1517 wrote: Interesting conversation. One question to those who disagree with voting for the â€ślesser of two evilsâ€ť: What man is NOT evil or sinful? If you say Christ, then justify your not voting on that principle, fine. But if you have voted, you have transgressed your professed position.
Okay. Last comment on this subject. Who would Christ have voted for?
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Sorry, did you miss the Scriptures I used to support my position? God told David to choose the lesser of three evils, was God being unBiblical? Please reread my 5/2/18 12:57 PM post. Thanks
God told Abraham to sacrifice his only son. So what's your point? God told Saul to slaughter the nations and leave nothing alive. What's your point?
The point you are missing, is this: THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS. You are supporting a lesser evil. A con-man. A rotten, vulgar, ungodly man. I am shocked that I am having this discussion with Christians.
JC from SoDak wrote: I believe that for voting for the lesser of two evils we are still voting for evil. And that is something I cannot do. God has called us to lift our leaders up in prayer and to support them in any way we can that is not unbiblical. That I can do!
Amen! That's exactly my point. I do remember Frank agreeing with me that Trump is a con-man. Go ahead and support your con-man. I for one, will do the biblical thing and pray for him.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: We live in a fallen world governed by fallen men. There was never a point in our history where the choice was not between the lesser of two evils, so to speak. Frank has well pointed out being a Christian and a politician are not compatible. We have to deal with what we are given in this world in which we are strangers and pilgrims. I didn't vote for Trump to be a moral compass or my role model. I will ask you, has the fact that he ran casinos, is a womanizer,has a foul mouth, etc. (not saying these are good) affected his presidency or his politics? If you don't want to vote so be it. We would be under much worse circumstances under a Hillary Clinton presidency. Voting for nothing is a choice to have only the unrighteous decide who is making the laws and policies under which you live. God gave us the opportunity to have a voice in our government, are you saying He made a mistake?
It ruins our testimony. I would rather try and change the world (as it were) through the proclamation of the Gospel rather than through politics. I speak for myself only.
John Yurich USA wrote: Oh for the love of. The Republican Party is the party of Jesus since the policies of the Republican Party are in line with the teachings of Jesus. And Trump is a better president than Clinton would have been. So it is totally stupid of any Christian to not vote because not voting Republican means that Democrats would be in control. And the aim of the Democratic Party is to make the United States a totalitarian country. Trump does not fund Planned Parenthood because he is against abortion. Trump is not charged with rape. And Trump's wife is not a bimbo.
You're not even worth responding to, John. We all know the bait you enjoy throwing out. It's not working.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: Thanks for kind words brother Frank and good question Watcher. My thoughts The Bible says we are to pray for those in authority, which in this nation we choose, that WE may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. We know when the wicked beareth rule the people mourn but when righteous rule the people rejoice. We live in a worldly system run by worldly people. The Bible tells us As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith. (Gal. 6:10) We put no trust in politics but all in our God and His providential grace on our behalf.
My problem with voting is if you support someone and vote for them then you are in essence voting for them as a person. You cannot separate the two. Doesn't it bother you that Trump uses such language, has a bimbo for a wife, owns casinos, has been charged for rape, funds Planned Parenthood...etc.? This is the man you cast your confidence behind. I do believe in praying for those in authority and do as much as I can, but to VOTE for someone means you think of that person as acceptable to represent you. Does Trump represent your convictions, morals and ideals?
Frank wrote: The issue of whether or not voting is a Christian duty has come up over the years. In fact, it was U.S. that convinced me years ago that voting was not in and of itself sinful. I now vote for what I call the lesser of two evils. IOW, I give no Christian moral credence to any candidate that holds office...But, I do not believe the Lord wants any of His children to be volitionally cooperative in their evil. We walk a fine line, but we are to always obey God.
God help you Frank if Trump turns out to be another Hitler. Then what will be your excuse?
That's my opinion. The sin, the lifestyle, the choices, the profanity...you support the man, you support his lifestyle, his morals, his choices...in essence you agree with his ethics and morality.
May God be merciful on Christians who are convinced that voting for the "lesser evil" brings God glory.
Unprofitable Servant wrote: I believe you will find it matters 2 Corinthians 5:10Â For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.Â
You are right that you will be held accountable for who you voted for and supported, and the fallout of those actions. But a more important question is, "Should a Christian be voting in the first place?"
Dr. Tim wrote: I am not a Catholic. I only go to that Catholic Church when they have Bingo. And Super Bowl Sunday. And potluck suppers. Everyone at the Baptist church I attend on Sunday morning said I am saved because I have short hair and wear penny loafers. I got saved the same way everybody at my Baptist church got saved--but I can't go into that right now. I'm late for Bingo.
I've heard this before...now where was that? Hmmm...