Mike wrote: Yes, Jim has yet to explain why he supports Governors taking away by fiat, State legislatorsâ€™ responsibilities. Emergency powers? Who decides there is an emergency? Oh thatâ€™s right, the governors. Some democracy Jim likes.
It appears clearly that Jim pursues an agenda while posting in a Conservative Christian platform continual attacks against biblical truth and righteousness.
No one can be a Christian with that set of mind, so there is only one explanation, a purpuseful destructive intrution against Christian culture and values, and in the end of true Christianity .
This is a token of the flat curve Christianity is at in the present Western Civilization.
JC wrote: Evangelism and the ministry or testimony of the church are two different items of the same whole. God draws men to himself by his own means by which any of us will feel flabbergasted, yet we are to content for truth and its purity among men. You draw parallel lines of the two, when in reality they intersect. Can u explain what u mean ?
Probably you might attest more than you admit.
God can reveal himself to any by any means he chooses, say even the stones or an ass could speak for him to the unconverted, or he might make himself known through any other none orthodox means, yet this should not dismiss the issue of our responsibility as we are told "to contend for the faith once delivered to the saints".
Any seeking God will find him, and a version issue will not be the stumbling block, if could be rather the opposite to the elect of God, though definitively is going to be such for any of the none elect.
"God has given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear"
JC wrote: I live in a mission field here in the US...people have gotten born again using many versions....i have preferences for sure, and I realize some are not as good. But if someone who has no interest in reading God's word and picks up a Bible of any version, God be praised...taking them down a 'version rabbit trail would please the devil for sure
Evangelism and the ministry or testimony of the church are two different items of the same whole. God draws men to himself by his own means by which any of us will feel flabbergasted, yet we are to content for truth and its purity among men. You draw parallel lines of the two, when in reality they intersect.
Jim Lincoln wrote: Why, John, everyone knows the Vulgate Bible is the only true Bibleâť— It uses God's language, Latin. All the newfangled versions, especially the KJV, are heretical corruptions Remember, adriel, The Vulgate has been around for 1500 years, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgate So I need new upstart version such as the KJV, which is a corruption of God's Word. Well, you might be able to tolerate the Wycliffe version.
Not a clue you have, sir.
The Old Latin bible stood against the Vulgate for over 1000 years. That was the Bible of the none conformists of the dark ages.
Erasmus and other reformer's eclectic criteria in the sixteenth century when choosing the Greek manuscripts to prepare the received text might have been influenced by the stand of this Old Latin Bible which non conformists held to, including the Waldensians, instead of the Vulgate which was the Bible of the apostate church for over 1000 years.
To keep in mind Erasmus and other reformer's eclectic criteria might have been influenced by the stand of the Old Latin Bible which non conformists held to, including the Waldensians, instead of the Vulgate which was the Bible of the apostate church for over 1000 years
Neil wrote: 1. Only if you're talking about Waldensians or Lollards. No evidence of Anabaptists before the Reformation, except in Landmark mythology.
2. ... I have found that many "evangelicals" have no problem with Catholicism either, so it costs conservative politicians little to pursue Catholic votes. Even Libertarian hero Ron Paul, if I recall, spoke approvingly of the pope. Catholicism has been dominant in America for over a century; "Paleo" Protestants like me are considered cranks or worse; I have even heard Fundy Baptists disown the label "Protestant." And Reformed/Presby churches are well on their way to Rome too, as Trinity Foundation tells us.
Pre-Victorian churches would be shocked at how backslidden modern evangelicals are, both doctrinally and morally.
1. True, the Anabaptists along with the other reformers separated from Rome in the 16th century.
John UK wrote: ... she is a nominal Christian, like so many Americans ... never born again, never showed any evidence of being indwelt by the Spirit, never bore any fruit unto eternal life. These sort of people are bold, they make bold speeches, they censure others who genuinely stand with God, they promote sin, they bolster the LGBT cause, they divorce, thinking it to be all right, but contrary to what Jesus taught. "Everybody's doing it, right? Must be okay!" This woman ... is nothing special, just another rebel. But she writes books, she preaches, and that makes her dangerous.
Sure, barren Christianity abounds, result of false gospel pulpit 'talks' and esay belivism. How true Adam Clarke had it, even 2 centuries ago.
Surely I Corinthians 5 deals with the necessity of church discipline,
"Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. "