Chris G P wrote: It shows the wonderful product of the missionaries of 200 or so years ago, who at the cost of their lives and health often, went to the South Sea islands to preach the gospel, very often where there were even cannibalistic practices. Today those islands are solidly and evangelically Christian. Many rugby players come from these societies, and stand firm in the faith, and they will not compromise to suit the decadent desires of Western secularist liberals.
The Quiet Christian wrote: I doubt any college worth its salt simply goes off an SAT score. Of course other factor are considered as part of the entrance package and resume. These scores are only one indicator ...
Ultimately, the whole package of whom any of us truly is or isn't doesn't come from a test score, diploma, job, paygrade, or salary but our identity in Christ. We all have intrinsic worth just because we were formed in God's image. These things we pursue may be necessary steps to fulfill the plans the Lord has for our lives, but they are not ends unto themselves. And I have found that the Lord is more than capable to place each of us where He wants us, no matter how the world may score us.
Certainly your last sentence here points to the Christian's walk of faith, of which we need always to be reminded of.
James Thomas wrote: The context in which â€śallâ€ť and â€śwhole worldâ€ť are mentioned as being loved obviously didn't include Esau and the tares of the field mentioned in Mat 13
We are allocating an obtuse character to God by promoting such thoughts.
He is love by nature which makes him loving per se, which excludes *selective* love. Such idea would make him less than perfect and rather like a mythological deity monster.
The workers of iniquity are hated, detested or chased away from his presence because of their sin, which is totally foreign to his own essence. E.g. "I have hated the congregation of evil doers" Or "I have hated them that regard lying vanities"
The hatred towards Esau hints to him being put aside re. election, as Malachi explains, "I have loved you, says the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? says the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness."
In short he did not obtain mercy for his conduct, while Jacob did.
"Esau *hated* Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob."
Chris G P wrote: stroke patients who require intensive treatment and intervention immediately after the stroke and are not getting it.
Chris, there was no need to explain yourself. The theme was commented upon as it seems that the present costumary practice on the matter might need checked in Christian circles.
Thanks for commenting bringing informative outlook about Britain.
Surely Mr Masters hit the nail in the 80's about the charismatic phenomena, contemporary music and other stands. However the crowd attending the Metropolitan Tabernacle presently seems under principled, as the pulpit brings theological generalizations but omits practical detail. For instance, when studing I Corinthians verse by verse, on arriving to chapter 11 about the passage on head covering, Mr Masters brought a few right theological points regarding headship in the godhead and gender role going back to Creation, yet he concluded that the practice had been acceptably going on in the past in Britain, and that those presently wishing to adhere to it there was no harm if so they desired, but that it was not necessary to continue it. Quite disappointing. ?!?!
Chris, please take no personal insult or offence about this comment, as your situation could be well justified.
However, as a general remark, it is grieving to see how our society systematicly institutionalizes the aged in state-runned or/semiprivate 'nursing' homes, while all along Christian homes could be the 'caring homes' for the end of life exemplifying the true ethos Scripture endorses. Practical Christianity would be better enhanced that way, something endless theological dialogue or debate does not, and the young coming up to first-hand realisation of the aging process and through close interaction with the aged, would be helped out of the flippant bubble of superficial life perception they are often immersed in.
There is a lot of ranting about the unborn here, but not much about the dismal institutionalised end of life many aged are in.
May we age the age of the patriarchs, who died in the midst of their own, revered and useful. "They shall still bring forth fruit in old age; they shall be fat and flourishing"
Remarkably dementia in Scriptures comes not associated with the aged, but with divine retribution on singular individuals.
The ability to choose exists, but it is not free to choose good all the time.
In the USA there are some good Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches, and there are a good number of 'poor' Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches, as John refers to, that in different measure might be fervent on the cardinal points of the gospel, standards and separation but weak, faulty and even dishonest in the rational explanation of certain beliefs.
Yet the PP tendencies Jonh points to can be found in different shape and colour in many other 'calmer' settings such as in Orthodox Protestant circles, American Presbyterians or Reformed settings, because there is not a man that does right all the time and never sins, says the Scripture, that means that is not ever in a flaw at some point or stage.
Often the grave tendency is to make popes of ourselves, and our own denomination, believing to be right in all and everything, but failing to see our own errors or intellectual shortcomings. Worse than this however, is the obstinacy or reluctance to accept an honest challenge from outside our own, especially in matters as infant baptism, scatology, onlyism, liberal tendencies, hypersensitive Calvinism or flatant Arminianism. This is when PP tactics show up, which often reach to th
John Lee wrote: 1. What are PP's all about? I've already mentioned ... PP's can be found in any and every denomination or independent church ... among politicians, among fundraisers, ... They are everywhere. You turn on the TV, they are there, all the time. It's just that hardly a soul notices. They are hoodwinkers, con artists, deceivers ... The success of such a mission is all down to the psyche of people, not the working of the Holy Ghost, or the revealing of facts.
2. It is interesting Bro US that when David wished to demolish the Calvinist doctrine of Limited Atonement, he went to verses like "made atonement for all". And when the Calvinist wishes to demolish the Arminist doctrine of universal atonement, they go for a verse like "made atonement for many". Both of them are being deceptive.
1. Yes, John, our society is not driven by facts. People have been trained not to think, but to 'feel' about matters. All works by afilliation, personal preference / convenience, but not by rational evaluation of truth. Thanks for your input.
2. Such tricks happen most of time in theological debates
The Lord knows in depth, we entertain appearances, and this is why there are so many 'mysteries' and unresolved puzzles about. The same applies to a forum as this.
USA and Britain may had had in the past common grounds. Not any longer. America's evangelical church has its own peculiar problems due to the sense of liberal Christianity that its *progressive* culture has applied and understood there. Britain's secularism on the other hand, on the wings of socialism and ecumenism, has exercised a death sentence to its church from different angles for near 60 years now. The Lord knows