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St Jeremiah wrote: There is a lack of clarification on this issue. Part of the problem is translation: I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 1 Timothy 2:12-13 The problem with this translation is that it ignores the context. Adam and Eve were husband and wife....they were married. After the fall...the wife was commanded "Your desire.....
.....This would place her over her husband to teach him God's word. This is not the proper order (1 Cor. 6:3). Paul never says anything about the role of single women in the Church. They are under the direct rule of Christ. In the mission field it is proper for single women to plant churches. When a man...who is married...is trained and qualify to Pastor should take over the leadership of his local Church. Where established Churches are...she can teach Sunday School.
The problem with this hypothesis is that it suggests that Eve was not representative of a female until she was married.
Thats not true.
These verses/reasons have nothing to do with marriage.
1Tim 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. :14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression"
Michael Hranek wrote: As politely as I may I don't see what the Calvinistic WCF, which I believe seriously distorts election and the character of God in Chapter 3, has to do with this news report.
Well Michael, you did say quote; "Am I missing something in the discussion on this thread?" unquote.
If you could perceive the truth in the WCF's teachings and Biblical doctrine, then that missing something may be made manifest. You see the Holy Spirit, (the thread topic) and grace does it all. Man's will is incarcerated in the domain of sin. Or to put it another way, "Man is stone cold dead in his sin."
As for Election - Let us help you.
"2. This effectual call is of God's free and special grace alone, not from anything at all foreseen in man;[a] who is altogether passive therein, until, being quickened and renewed by the Holy Spirit,[b] he is thereby enabled to answer this call, and to embrace the grace offered and conveyed in it.[c]" WCF. [a] Rom 9:11; Eph 2:4-5, 8-9; 2 Tim 1:9; Titus 3:4-5. [b] Rom 8:7; 1 Cor 2:14; Eph 2:5. [c] Ezek 36:27; John 5:25; 6:37.
Michael Hranek wrote: Am I missing something in the discussion on this thread?
Affirmative Michael! Here is the input you need....
1. "The grace of faith, whereby the elect are enabled to believe to the saving of their souls,[a] IS THE WORK of the SPIRIT of Christ in their hearts,[b] and is ordinarily wrought by the ministry of the Word;[c] by which also, and by the administration of the sacraments and prayer, it is increased and strengthened.[d]" (WCF) [a] Heb 10:39. [b] Eph 1:17-19; 2:8; 2 Cor 4:13. [c] Rom 10:14, 17. [d] Luke 17:5; Acts 20:32; Rom 1:16-17; 4:11; 1 Pet 2:2.