I'm so sad that some of you didn't get grace with your baptism. Thats terrible.
Here is the Westminster Christian explanation for your edification.
WCF:27: 1. Sacraments are holy signs and seals of the covenant of grace,a immediately instituted by God,b to represent Christ and his benefits, and to confirm our interest in him:c as also to put a visible difference between those that belong unto the Church and the rest of the world;d and solemnly to engage them to the service of God in Christ, according to his Word."e
a. Gen 17:7, 10; Rom 4:11. â˘ b. Mat 28:19; 1 Cor 11:23. â˘ c. 1 Cor 10:16; 11:25-26; Gal 3:27. â˘ d. Gen 34:14; Exod 12:48; Rom 15:8. â˘ e. Rom 6:3-4; 1 Cor 10:16, 21.
3. The 'GRACE' which is exhibited in or by the sacraments, rightly used, is not conferred by any power in them; neither doth the efficacy of a sacrament depend upon the piety or intention of him that doth administer it,a but upon the work of the Spirit,b and the word of institution, which contains, together with a precept authorizing the use thereof, a promise of benefit to worthy receivers."c
a. Rom 2:28-29; 1 Pet 3:21. â˘ b. Mat 3:11; 1 Cor 12:13. â˘ c. Mat 26:27-28.
""You want to reach a bunch of people that donât like God, donât like religion, and have no fear of hell because they don't think it exists and so they don't mind burning there?""
"people that *don't* like God" IE: *don't* believe in God.
The problem with these folks when they say this is the word - "don't" - They think its a human action!!
The truth which they cannot know, is that the correct statement about their situation is - 'They *can't* know or believe in God.
To believe in God - God must make the first move by revelation. Until then they are blind - ignorant and alienated from God; - Not to mention at 'enmity' with God.
As for 'hell' they wouldn't know what the precise detail of that experience is from a card board cut out of a giraffe.
The atheist:- Eph 4:18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: 19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness."
And... Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be."
So the poor old atheist is just a simple ignorant reprobate going to hell.
No grace with baptism??? Weird? Sounds like Liberalism? That means baptism is entirely human â- Unnecessary???
âWhat is a sacrament received apart from faith but the most certain ruin of the church? For nothing ought to be expected from it apart from the promise, but the promise no less threatens wrath to unbelievers than offers grace to believers" (Institutes 4.14.14).â
""âSplitting the UMC into two groups of âTraditionalâ and âCentrist/Progressiveâ is a pretty broad paint stroke of assumption""
= "Traditional versus Centrist/Progressive??
Biblical vs Liberalist UnBiblical.
Christian vs Satanic/Abominable.
Doctrinal vs Unnatural (Rom 1:26)
Righteousness vs Fornication.
Normal vs Sodom and Gomorrah.
Bible Believer vs Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."
Socialism is simply transgendered communism. Both hate the Bible and Christianity because they help the masses to clearly see the nasty despotic truth about these satanic human 'ism's.
We only have to look at the reactions of communism/socialism in other nations such as Russia, China, France etc. They see the Christian theology as competitive and threatening to their tyrannical dictatorships.
And it is!
Hearts and minds.... Psalm 51: 10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me."
Ezek 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them."
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart."
âWe live in an age of peculiar spiritual privileges. Since the world began there never was such an opportunity for a man's soul to be saved as there is in England at this time. There never were so many signs of religion in the land, so many sermons preached, so many services held in churches and chapels, so many Bibles sold, so many religious books and tracts printed, so many Societies for evangelizing mankind supported, so much outward respect paid to Christianity. Things are done everywhere now-a- days which a hundred years ago would have been thought impossible. Bishops support the boldest and most aggressive efforts to reach the unconverted. Deans and Chapters throw open the naves of cathedrals for Sunday evening sermons! Clergy of the narrowest High Church School advocate special missions, and vie with the Evangelical brethren in proclaiming that going to church on Sunday is not enough to take a man to heaven. In short, there is a stir about religion now-a-days to which there has been nothing like since England was a nation, and which the cleverest skeptics and infidels cannot deny. â (Practical Religion) (J C Ryle)
Doesnât sound like England today. I wonder what the Lord is doing today?
Phillip Mezzapelle wrote: I'm still looking for the Bible verses which give us the Holy mandate to police the world and kill innocent men, women and children. I'm also still looking for the Bible verses which give the nation of Israel a free pass to do whatever it wants.
How do you think peace is achieved?
Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God."
Absurdism :â âDescription in philosophy, "the Absurd" refers to the conflict between the human tendency to seek inherent value and meaning in life and the human inability to find any in a purposeless, meaningless or chaotic and irrational universe.â (Wikipedia)
Fake News == Evolution?
Truth = âThrough faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.â Heb 11:3
"In a free country, where property rights are protected, you can build and invest and farm and study and invent, secure in the knowledge that when your efforts finally pay off, you will get the rewards. In a socialist state, thereâs no motivation to do more than the minimum necessary to avoid unpleasant consequences.
Yet no matter how repressive the government becomes in its effort to force production, the economy of a socialist state gradually becomes stagnant. You canât force people to think and innovate. Force can only create fear and silence.
Eventually, the socialist who promised prosperity for all finds that there isnât enough to go around. Thatâs when you get shortages, starvation and an exodus of people. Sometimes you get a Berlin wall to keep everybody in, or a one-child policy to cut down on the number of mouths to feed." (Susan Shelley) https://www.ocregister.com/2019/01/26/the-socialist-delusion/
False witness is a very big dark place, where the sinner cannot see.
"Sin has alienated man from God (Eph 4:18). His heart is averse to Him; his will is opposed to His; his mind is at enmity against Him. Contrariwise, salvation means being restored to God: âFor Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to Godâ (1Pe 3:18). Legally that has already been done; experimentally it is in process of accomplishment. Salvation means being reconciled to God; and that involves and includes sinâs dominion over us being broken, enmity within us being slain, and the heart being won to God. This is what true conversion is: it is a tearing down of every idol, a renouncing of the empty vanities of a cheating world, and taking God for our Portion, our Ruler, our All in all. Of the Corinthians we read that they âfirst gave their own selves unto the Lordâ (2Co 8:5). The desire and determination of those truly converted is that they âshould not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto Him which died for them, and rose againâ (2Co 5:15)." (A W Pink)
Reprobate Warren says:- ""any person who held such values is so out of step, bigoted, homophobic, and small minded that he could not find someone who would be willing to marry him""
God replies:- Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
And Romans 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them."
Rom 2:2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things."
Don't change the truth of God into a lie, - Or you will pay for it.
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
Whether the reprobates like it or not God hates the abomination enough to rain down fire and brimstone upon it. And that's a fact.
Either repent of your sins or go to hell. Only two choices.
"The fact is clearly revealed that Godâs agency is always and everywhere exercised in the preservation of his creatures, but the mode in which his efficiency is exerted, further than that it is consistent with the nature cf the creatures themselves and with the holiness and goodness of God, is unrevealed and inscrutable. It is best, therefore, to rest satisfied with the simple statement that preservation is that omnipotent energy of God by which all created things, animate and inanimate, are upheld in existence, with all the properties and powers with which He has endowed them. " (C. Hodge) (Providence).
Man's religion when he constructs it is fallacy. Man's science when he constructs it is fallacy.