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1/10/14 5:36 PM |
A Disciple | | Hercules Collins | | | |
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Lurker wrote: And there was Ishmael and Esau who were circumcised. But, scripture says, the inheritance is not of debt but by promise freely given to the children of promise. I hope a thinking Presby will step up and deal with some of these issues which separate us. But so far the best we've heard is we don't know how to interpret scripture because we're not real Christians from the real church. And someone was wondering why all the heat between Baptists and Presbys. No matter how much of the bible blows their theories apart, they just bury their heads in the sand and plead the wisdom of their forefathers. Always back to their confessions of faith and theology books. And somehow we're to believe they hold to the Bible as their supreme authority in matters of faith, even when all we witness is them pulling out their so called subordinate standards upon which they have been spoonfed! |
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1/10/14 5:06 PM |
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Lurker wrote: Seems like there are several Presby's wanting to discuss covenant theology so perhaps a little common sense will prevail. We baptist types have been told that this COG was made with Abraham and is extant to the end of days. Of course 8 day male circumcision come along to justify infant baptism but that is another argument. Abraham received the covenant promise God made with him (Heb 6:15) but Abraham didn't receive the better promise of the better New Covenant (Heb 11:13, 17, 39-40) of which Jesus is the mediator (Heb 8:6). No Presby has ever attempted to unravel this glaring contradiction of CT. Is there a Presby here who can think for himself and straighten this conundrum out with a biblical answer instead of just quoting your fathers or the WCF? Hercules Collins a 17th Baptist also pointed to the fact that Lot, a believer, was never circumcised! Circumcision was only ever required of Abraham's family pointing to the fact that Christ was going to be from his line. Why the ongoing need for the sign when the it was fulfilled in the coming of Christ? |
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1/10/14 3:22 PM |
A Disciple | | Hercules Collins | | | |
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a believer's facts wrote: God's Covenant with man. 5. This covenant was differently administered in the time of the law and in the time of the gospel:a under the law it was administered by promises, prophecies, sacrifices, circumcision, the paschal lamb, and other types and ordinances delivered to the people of the Jews, ALL FORE-SIGNIFYING CHRIST to come ......" WCF 7. Presby fiction!There was no covenant of grace in the OT but there were promises relating to it. Question: Was circumcision a sign of the Covenant of Grace? Hello, any thinking Presby out there?! |
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1/10/14 9:46 AM |
A Disciple | | Hercules Collins | | | |
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The fact is that the OT covenants were all legal and conditional in nature (not as the Presbys imagine administrations of the covenant of grace!). But, tacked onto these there were often gracious promises of a better covenant or intimation of such. So for example the types and shadows pointed in the same direction.It was faith in these promises of a coming savior and his work some of which was portrayed in types and shadows that saved the OT people. Listen to how the NT speaks of the OT covenants: Romans 9:4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. Ephesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world In the OT there is no Covenant of Grace, only intimations of something better to come viz. the New Covenant! In the NT we see the realization of the promises in the inauguration of the New Covenant. |
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1/9/14 4:00 PM |
A Disciple | | Hercules Collins | | | |
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concerned wrote: Hey Baptists! Do you think these verses imply that GOD hasn't revealed His whole counsel to you? And that is why you don't have a Covenant of Grace with Christ??? Psalm 25:10 All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies. 14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant. Oh and the word here recorded "testament" is diatheke in the Greek. Which is the same word for "COVENANT" - So blood of the Covenant - Has it been shed for YOU??? Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. Have you ever studied Baptist Covenant Theology? John Owen agreed with it! What a shame you are so ignorant. |
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