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I was blessed and convicted by Mr. Bridges' writings as a new convert.
He urged in his books practical holiness of the whole life, that only a thrice-holy God can impart.

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Lurker wrote:
And there was Ishmael and Esau who were circumcised. But, scripture says, the inheritance is not of debt but by promise freely given to the children of promise.
I hope a thinking Presby will step up and deal with some of these issues which separate us. But so far the best we've heard is we don't know how to interpret scripture because we're not real Christians from the real church.
And someone was wondering why all the heat between Baptists and Presbys.
No matter how much of the bible blows their theories apart, they just bury their heads in the sand and plead the wisdom of their forefathers. Always back to their confessions of faith and theology books. And somehow we're to believe they hold to the Bible as their supreme authority in matters of faith, even when all we witness is them pulling out their so called subordinate standards upon which they have been spoonfed!

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Lurker wrote:
Seems like there are several Presby's wanting to discuss covenant theology so perhaps a little common sense will prevail.
We baptist types have been told that this COG was made with Abraham and is extant to the end of days. Of course 8 day male circumcision come along to justify infant baptism but that is another argument.
Abraham received the covenant promise God made with him (Heb 6:15) but Abraham didn't receive the better promise of the better New Covenant (Heb 11:13, 17, 39-40) of which Jesus is the mediator (Heb 8:6).
No Presby has ever attempted to unravel this glaring contradiction of CT. Is there a Presby here who can think for himself and straighten this conundrum out with a biblical answer instead of just quoting your fathers or the WCF?
Hercules Collins a 17th Baptist also pointed to the fact that Lot, a believer, was never circumcised! Circumcision was only ever required of Abraham's family pointing to the fact that Christ was going to be from his line. Why the ongoing need for the sign when the it was fulfilled in the coming of Christ?

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A Disciple | Hercules Collins  Find all comments by A Disciple
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a believer's facts wrote:
God's Covenant with man.
5. This covenant was differently administered in the time of the law and in the time of the gospel:a under the law it was administered by promises, prophecies, sacrifices, circumcision, the paschal lamb, and other types and ordinances delivered to the people of the Jews, ALL FORE-SIGNIFYING CHRIST to come ......" WCF 7.
Presby fiction!

There was no covenant of grace in the OT but there were promises relating to it.

Question:

Was circumcision a sign of the Covenant of Grace?

Hello, any thinking Presby out there?!


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John UK wrote:
Are you looking for:
1. Yes, circumcision was a sign of the covenant of grace.
2. No, circumcision was not a sign of the covenant of grace.
Seems simple enough to me.
If you were to reword it so that 1 and 2 are options, IOW 1 or 2, not both, then yes that is what I am looking for.

The problem Presbys have is that if they say yes, then they have to contend with Galatians 5:3 "For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law." How can that be? Was it not suppose to be a gracious covenant? How would a party to a gracious covenant be required to do the whole law?

If they answer no, they again have real problems because then since it was required in the Abrahamic covenant they would have to concede that the Abrahamic covenant was NOT the covenant of grace!

But this demonstrates that they don't take Scripture seriously because they have real comprehension problems.


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Covenant details wrote:
Proof!! The Baptist cannot read Scripture!!

Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:

No doubt instead of an adult and intelligent reply I will get contempt by post. May God have mercy upon you!

When can we expect an intelligent reply from you?

Read Romans 15.8 again. It confirms that there were only promises in the OT. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of those promises in the New Covenant, not some imagined Covenant of Grace in the OT.


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Covenant details wrote:
Oh Look!! The Baptist debate method again. Scorn Mockery and contempt.
Unbiblical!! Unchristian.
And we wonder why they cannot come up with a Biblical reply to the current debate!!!!

1) God wrote Genesis 17 along with the rest of the Bible. *HE* wrote and stated that it was a COVENANT.
As believer and Christian I believe God.
I do not believe the Anabaptists theory of 1521.
2) All that comes from GOD is Grace!!!
As a real 'disciple' of Christ, I am given to believe this by the guidance of the Holy Spirit indwelling within me.
GOD STATES:-
Genesis 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
You know I'm really worried about Baptists!!

Utter bunk is the best we can expect from the baby sprinkler. Taunts Baptists all day every day without ever engaging with their arguments and then wonders that they treat him with scorn. One has to wonder whether the grey matter between his ears has ever engaged in any original thought?

One last time, was circumcision a sign of the covenant of grace?


News Item1/10/14 9:46 AM
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The fact is that the OT covenants were all legal and conditional in nature (not as the Presbys imagine administrations of the covenant of grace!). But, tacked onto these there were often gracious promises of a better covenant or intimation of such. So for example the types and shadows pointed in the same direction.

It was faith in these promises of a coming savior and his work some of which was portrayed in types and shadows that saved the OT people.

Listen to how the NT speaks of the OT covenants:

Romans 9:4
Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises

Galatians 3:17
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Ephesians 2:12
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world

In the OT there is no Covenant of Grace, only intimations of something better to come viz. the New Covenant!

In the NT we see the realization of the promises in the inauguration of the New Covenant.


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Covenant News wrote:
...The Covenant of Grace is mission from the Baptist tradition and doctrine. Its removal distorts the very basis of Christian orthodox and historic teaching on baptism. How incredible that they have called themselves after the very doctrine which they refute and refuse to believe.
The Baptists refuse to accept the Covenant of Grace and its recorded statutes for one reason alone - That it proves them wrong.
You are a lying ignoramus!

Baptists major on the New Covenant (aka the Covenant of Grace), but what would a dumb person like you know about the New Covenant when you try and overwrite it with the legal Abrahamic covenant?

I ask you again, was circumcision a sign of the Covenant of Grace?


News Item1/9/14 4:00 PM
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concerned wrote:
Hey Baptists!
Do you think these verses imply that GOD hasn't revealed His whole counsel to you? And that is why you don't have a Covenant of Grace with Christ???
Psalm 25:10 All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
14 The secret of the LORD is with them that fear him; and he will shew them his covenant.
Oh and the word here recorded "testament" is diatheke in the Greek.
Which is the same word for "COVENANT" - So blood of the Covenant - Has it been shed for YOU???
Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
Have you ever studied Baptist Covenant Theology? John Owen agreed with it! What a shame you are so ignorant.

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Covenant details wrote:
The point is dear Baptists that there is absolutely zero - nothing in the New Testament which commands you to ditch the Old Testament precepts of the Covenant of Grace. (Gen 17)
How are you going to demonstrate that Gen 17 was the covenant of grace?

Was circumcision a sign of the covenant of grace?

Covenant details wrote:
As Jesus said And I reiterate yet again - "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matt 5:18.
The Law is the covenant of grace?!

Covenant details wrote:
And remember Don't add/take away anything from the Bible - or the Lord will get you for it ....
Rev 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
You should heed the warning yourself for promoting ignorant errors.


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