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News Item4/3/2020 1:18 PM
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Also agree with Carol. We didn’t start this discussion about what happens in the church but what we do as individuals. Our church still preaches from the Word of God, sing songs of praise and worship and attempt to glorify the Lird in all that is done.

News Item4/3/2020 1:13 PM
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That’s the issue John. When presented with evidence that Easter and Christmas are NOT of RCC origin you ignore it. The Bible does not address directly everything that is part of our corporate worship thus we live by Biblical principles found in the Word like Romans 14

News Item4/3/2020 9:42 AM
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Thanks John for your thoughts

Just as you have used extremes to try and say my thinking is not valid (what about Ash Wednesday, etc) I used extremes (what about hearing aides) to show the illogic or the way you are applying sola scriptura

I have nothing against confessions, statements of faith, etc., again I was just applying your own thinking for me to you.

Here is the issue we will not resolve, both Christmas and Easter are not of RCC origin. We both agree we don't mix false religion with true. Both days fall under the matrix of Romans 14 when done for the glory of God.


News Item4/3/2020 12:31 AM
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John UK wrote:
But amazingly, the two special festal days you will accept and promote, are those two which are embraced by the world and greatly loved by them: Christmas and Easter; neither of which have biblical warrant.
Thanks again for your thoughts.

Here is the difference John. The two special days are related to great events in the Bible that brought great joy and have very special significance in our Christian faith. Had neither event happened there would be no possibility of salvation for any of us. The world doesn't love unto you this day is born a Savior who is Christ the Lord, the world doesn't love Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead. They do not celebrate what we as believers do.

I wear hearing aides, although not needed to hear the preaching; until I got them I didn't understand the testimonies shared during the service. I wear glasses that due to my age help me to read the Word of God, or Christian books or memory verses. Neither one of those things has any Biblical warrant and no one used such things in the first century. Are they wrong to have and use?


News Item4/2/2020 4:59 PM
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Not sure I mentioned either one of those days in response to your question. Don’t see applying Romans 14 to Easter as part of a Biblical principle as an opening of Pandora’s box. I see the principle still applicable to days here in the 21st century.

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Thanks John, please continue

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John UK wrote:
Bro US, have a look at what the 1689 Baptist confession makes of liberty of conscience.

Note, "which are in any thing contrary to his word, or not contained in it". Now Easter (which is far more than a mere celebration of our Saviour's resurrection) is not found anywhere in the word of God, therefore it is an invention of man, it is part of the "doctrines and commandments of men". To obey such is to destroy conscience, not give it freedom. This is why it is so serious.
John Thank you for your response.

First, I have several times stated that what we do as believers is not in light of what the unregenerate do.

Second, not only have I shown you several things you do that are not found in Scripture but are part of your practice in attending church (good things mind you) but to follow your thinking to its logical conclusion where in Scripture is a command to meet as a group of ecclesiastical leaders and pen a confession of faith to which you expect the brethren to adhere?


News Item4/1/2020 8:54 PM
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John UK wrote:
Bro US, the passage in Romans 14 regarding "days".
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What I'm asking therefore, is if you can furnish me with an actual "day" which you can justify having, from the biblical principle which you are standing for and promoting.
Thank you bro.

This is why I say that it can hardly be used as a biblical principle for justifying anything which was never ordained of God in the first place.

fine John, then Easter, recognized by even the unregenerate (as shown earlier) to be about the resurrection of Christ from the dead.

You seem dangerously close to cutting pieces of Scripture out of being applicable to today. John this is your criticism of dispensationalist and here you are doing what you accuse them of doing.

Are you saying God never intended us to celebrate the resurrection of our Lord who Himself said I am the resurrection and the life and I am He which liveth was dead and behold I am alive forevermore!?


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John UK wrote:
... So I asked you:
"So my question to you would be, "Please would you give an example of how you would use that biblical principle in a specific, actual sense, regarding "days" in, for example, your own church."
Thank you bro.
I apologize butI don't fully understand your question.

Let me stab at it. When we meet on Easter Sunday (not this year)we emphasize the resurrection of the Lord in singing and preaching. It is not that we only preach and sing this on one day a year, it is a daily practice (Romans 6) Nothing special is done, only difference would be more emphasis on the resurrection.

Not sure what you are looking for or trying to go.


News Item4/1/2020 12:03 PM
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John celebration of our Lord’s resurrection is plain old Christianity. Read I Corinthians 15 it is simple Christianity from the Word of God.


All things that the church does are not DIRECT commands from the Scripture. Where's the command to carry a Bible with you to church (but you do)? Where's the command in the New Testament for a choir to sing praises to the Lord as part of corporate worship? Where's the command for crowds to gather for evangelistic meetings as they did under George Whitfield (but they did by the thousands)?

We get these things from applying Biblical principles.

The book of Galatians false gospel was specifically about the Judaizers. Yet we use the term another gospel about the teachings of the RCC and other works based teachings. Just because the context is about one thing doesn't mean it cannot be applied to other things.

My friend, as I see it, it is you who are grasping a straws to reach your conclusions as you refuse to even examine evidence that shows Easter is not of pagan or RCC origin but the practice of believers from the early existence of the church.


News Item3/31/2020 4:36 PM
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John I believe you hit the nail on the head as far as the context of the passage. Appreciate you sharing that.

I also know, as you do, that all Scripture is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction and instruction. I see the Bible principles as applicable to more than just that era. Note we shall still all stand before the judgment seat of Christ and give account and every knee shall still bow and tongue confess that Jesus is Lord as described in the passage. God bless


News Item3/31/2020 9:49 AM
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Sure John, and thank you likewise for your gracious reply.

This site is filled with sermons from men of God taking millennial old books of the Bible and applying it to modern day society. We look at Joshua 1:8 and acknowledge in context it was spoken to a specific man (Joshua)about specific books (the Pentateuch) but apply its truths to us in this day and add the whole of Scripture.

We can certainly agree that Romans 14 was not written about Easter as it was not in existence at the time. Yet there are principles there that one can apply to our day and age. Since we are discussing days and not meats, I am not including the latter in my discussion of the matter, please do as you wish.

The Scripture says One man esteems one day above another: another esteems every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regards the day, regards it unto the Lord: and he that regards not the day, to the Lord he does not regard it.

The meaning seems pretty clear, but brother will look forward to your enlightenment on the matter.

Thanks


News Item3/31/2020 3:22 AM
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Romans 14 (despite you misapplication of it earlier) the Bible clearly states.  He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord,; and he that regardeth not the day (like you and others) to the Lord he doth not regard it….let us not therefore judge one another any more…I know and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself, but to him that esteemeth anything to be unclean , to him it is unclean

The passage clearly says let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.  I see this as you are more than welcome to your practice and thinking but you go beyond Scriptural warrant when you attempt to bind the conscious of every believer to your view.  Thanks for hearing me out


News Item3/31/2020 3:20 AM
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Since Easter is not in the Bible we look to see what it represents.  (No it is not of pagan or RCC origin) According to even a highly respected secular source from your neck of the woods quoted earlier(religious sources would abound) it is about the resurrection of our Lord from the dead.  Now we are talking about something of great importance in the Word of God. It is our basis for walking in newness of life. (Romans 6) It is our source for our lively hope (I Peter 1)  We meet on the first day of the week instead of the last because we honor it.   Much more could be said but it would fill too many posts.   

Christ’s resurrection is an important part of both our daily and weekly walk with Christ.  

One day a year the “religious” crowd and even the secular one join our daily celebration of the Lord’s resurrection.  One day they will also join us in acknowledging that Jesus is Lord to the glory of God the Father.   What they do is not a basis for what we do.


News Item3/31/2020 3:20 AM
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John, I fully agree with you that Easter is not in the Bible.   But there are a number of things you use in your gathering with other believers that are not there.  The Gregorian calendar that you use is 1500 years later.  The term Sunday is not in the Bible.  You don’t mark time like they did in the Bible but you meet at set times when you gather with the brethren. The language you use for your Bible was not existent at the time the Bible was written.  The chapters, verses, and punctuation you use were not in the Bible.  The names of the majority of the books of the Bible that you use were not all around in the first century.  The early Christians knew no such structure as you use when you attend a church meeting and indoor plumbing and central air we also unknown, but guess what, you use them when you attend a gathering together of believers.  

The list could get much longer but I pretty sure you see what I am saying .

Continued


News Item3/30/2020 4:38 AM
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John what I see is you making inaccurate assumptions about Easter and making your opinions fact even though it is not based on the facts. Appreciate your zeal for what you think us the truth and desire to follow what you believe is right. Easter is not an invention of the RCC or a Christianization of a pagan tradition.

Brother you do several things today in your worship of God that were unthought of and never practiced by the church of the first century beginning with having a complete copy of the Old and New Testament in your hands.


News Item3/29/2020 10:06 PM
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John UK wrote:
Do you see what I'm saying, bro? Can anyone see it? Or am I a lone voice in a desert?
John the Bible specifically says that when the disciples saw the Risen Lord, they were glad. Like you would be if you were, you know, celebrating something.

Encylopedia Brittanica defines Easter as thus

Easter, Latin Pascha, Greek Pascha, principal festival of the Christian church, which celebrates the Resurrection of Jesus Christ on the third day after his Crucifixion. The earliest recorded observance of an Easter celebration comes from the 2nd century, though the commemoration of Jesus’ Resurrection probably occurred earlier.

Paul said if no resurrection, note his words, we are of all men most miserable.

The resurrection is worth daily living and daily celebration, The fact that there is a designated day called Easter falls under Romans 14 "He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it", so condemning some one for a special yearly celebration of our such a wonderful event is unbiblical. What the unregenerate do, doesn't determine what the brethren do. Maybe that is why your a lone voice.


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John UK wrote:
Do you see what I'm saying, bro? Can anyone see it? Or am I a lone voice in a desert?
John the Bible specifically says that when the disciples saw the Risen Lord, they were glad. Like you would be if you were, you know, celebrating something.

Encylopedia Brittanica defines Easter as thus

Easter, Latin Pascha, Greek Pascha, principal festival of the Christian church, which celebrates the Resurrection of Jesus Christ on the third day after his Crucifixion. The earliest recorded observance of an Easter celebration comes from the 2nd century, though the commemoration of Jesus’ Resurrection probably occurred earlier.

Paul said if no resurrection, note his words, we are all men most miserable.

The resurrection is worth daily living and daily celebration, The fact that there is a designated day called Easter falls under Romans 14 "He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it", so condemning some one for a special yearly celebration of our such a wonderful event is unbiblical. What the unregenerate do, doesn't determine what the brethren do. Maybe that is why your a lone voice.


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Church John. Did you bother to read the article? It shows you’re making an erroneous assumption about the origins of Easter, brother

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John UK wrote:
Dr Tim, where did YOU hear about Easter?
Here you go John

https://answersingenesis.org/holidays/easter/is-the-name-easter-of-pagan-origin/

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