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Jim Lincoln wrote:
New Age Movement wasn't around when the ASV was done.
?
[URL=http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/New_Age_Spirituality/id/22250]]]New Age movement is hardly novel! Its philosophy[/URL]

(Being raised A Presbyterian USA, I 'knew' (because they taught me in Sunday School) that the Bible 'evolved' from myths, all religions were true, and that I was just an evolved animal.
at 15
I used to teach meditation techniques to kids at PCUSA'church camp'

& at 19,street preached the Gospel at Whole Earth Festival,Davis,CA.(NewAge!)
(weird)
ASV IS post New Age start:
[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Age]]]first appeared in late 19th cent.& early 20th[/URL]

[URL=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/chasing_ghosts.htm]]]ASV from Westcott the Spiritualist[/URL]

[URL=http://www.historicist.com/necromancers/necromancers.htm]]]They were Necromancers[/URL]

[URL=http://www.historicist.com/necromancers/nabv30gguild.htm]]]Channelers! ---[/URL]
[URL=http://www.scionofzion.com/haw.htm]]]What Hort and Westcott Believed[/URL]
[URL=http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/wh-heretics.htm]]]good summary[/URL]

2 Tim 3:16 ASV Every scripture inspired of God etc.
vs
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God "Authorised


News Item7/29/08 7:14 AM
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Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ryrie Study Bible, King James Version

www.blueletterbible.org

I agree about Blue Letter: I've used it since Chuck Missler turned me on to it:
[URL=http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/3/16.html]]]John 3:16 , click on the K to the left =Treasury[/URL]
Both of which are good:
(I do have both: I've got a HUGE collection of commentary Bibles & most of the New Age Bible Versions )
I don't use the Ryrie other than map refs: which are very good. I got turned off on commentary Bibles a long time ago,I used a Schofield to tatters, & reading thru Dake's I had to CROSS OUT tons of notes in both: )

I just transferred the Blueletterbible.org with the treasury of Scriptural Knowledge to a couple of CD's to put on another computer.

The cool thing about Treasury of Scriptural knowledge is that you get the 'Bible Commenting on the Bible'.

BTW re: "translators to the readers"
[URL=http://www.wholesomewords.org/resources/critique.html]]]Jeffry Khoo on translation:"Behold the Pig of God"[/URL]

I read the Bible in Greek, Spanish, French, German, and Russian,too, (mostly Russian recently;trying to get my vocabulary back up to speed for a couple of new adopted nephews.)
Other language memory verses are helpful, to me,too


News Item7/28/08 4:13 AM
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You don't THINK
Jonathon Edwards wrote:
... they are taking it literally, i.e. that Obama is the Joshua for America.
but see:
http://www.obamamessiah.blogspot.com

[URL=http://www.obamamessiah.blogspot.com]]]Is Barack Obama the Messiah?compiles Obama worship[/URL]
"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.
etc.

At least the Media stopped worshipping McCAIN for a while.
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=72708132160]]]Don't Vote for McCain eitherPastor Michael Slattey[/URL]
McCain is a Sodomite supporter and promoter even at the same time that he is 'coming out' against 'Gay Marriage'
One group the LOVES Mc Cain, is the LOG CABIN Republicans.. He said to their executive director Richard Tafel 'I just want you to know, Rich, that I am unashamed unembarrassed and proud to work with you.'
McCain does not think that Sodomy ( misnamed homosexuality) is a sin.
McCain thinks that 'All Faiths came come together and pray with effectiveness.
DO YOU?
So vote for him or Obama and partake of their evils!


News Item7/28/08 4:02 AM
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jodie christenson wrote:
wrote:
7/26/08 7:30 PM
"Jesus didn't even judge Judas"
When one misquotes the Bible,
and is proven wrong, and
one is corrected,
& one ignores it,
one may end up like Bently.

[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=427081512353]]]Bently's shenanigans[/URL]
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=518082223398]]]Johnson & bently 'spirits'[/URL]
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=510082215320]]]Bently examined[/URL]

Jesus' opinion of Judas:
He judged him unworthy of BIRTH!
Mt.26:24;Mk.14:21
Jesus pronounced WOE on the betrayer:
Lk.22:21,... 48
Jn.70,71 Jesus called Judas a DEVIL
ALSO
Jesus called him unclean,Jn 13:10-11,
"LOST","son of perdition"Jn.17:12

like Judas,
Bently IS a "Woebegotten Lost unclean son of Perdition devil"

This is just one Bible example of condemnation of an evil man.
[URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/major-falsedoctrines.html]]]SOME MAJOR FALSE DOCTRINES THAT ARE A DANGER [/URL]
some of the major false doctrines that are a particular danger to Bible-believing churches in our day and a concise biblical refutation of them.
Good concise list: short, and includes
Bent-ly type errors.
see point
6f 6g & 6f


News Item7/28/08 3:06 AM
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quote wrote:
scribes... omitted... logical.. consistent with human nature
I've got a wholly Holy Bible:
an Authorized Bible:
not a holey bible:
when in Jn 7:39, they DID "receive": "the Holy Ghost" they sent forth the Holy Bible:
as the gospel went out from men " full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom" Act6:3 "For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost"2 Pe 1:21" that this epistle be read unto all the holy brethren."1 Th.5:27
God calls us to "love one another with a pure heart fervently" in 1Pe 1:22 because "we speak wisdom among them that are perfect" 1Cr.2:6
"we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth" 1Cr.2:13 :a message to even "holy apostles and prophets" Rv.18:20 that
"the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done." Rv.22:6 Which remind us
"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory" Mt.25:31

Modernist holey 'bibles' remove the words 'holy' 'pure' 'perfect' from the above passages
I don't want those 'redacted' or holey `bibles.'
Scribebibles???

News Item7/27/08 7:31 PM
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kenny wrote:
SermonAudio:
Why in the world do you allow MurrayA to continue to belittle and badger anyone who doesn't jump when he says jump? Honestly, he behaves like a spoiled little child and his remarks on their best day make him sound like an old, wet hen. He jumps into otherwise civil discussions and immediately begins harrassing anyone who doesn't follow the enlightened MurrayA line of thought. Disagree with him and he threatens to leave. Big whoop-de-doo. What a big loss that would be. When he's ignored, he complains. He insults others like a little girl. Please go back and read his posts. You have kicked folks off for less-why is he allowed to continue this childishness and pomposity? He has no sermons or church on SA that I can find (surprise).
MurrayA:
I can only wonder what kind of audience you spend so much time preparing sermons for. What must they think of your grade school antics and uncontrollable anger?

nahhh!pointing out the bad spelling
and grammar was
fun!
[URL=http://www.kjv-asia.com/authorized_version_defence.htm]]]The Bible is TRUE[/URL]

though:
[URL=http://www.kjv-asia.com/authorized_version_defence_ankerberg_theory.htm]]]Confusion is hard to overcome[/URL]

News Item7/27/08 7:08 PM
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MurrayA wrote:
question
1st things 1st:
Your paper has misspelled 4 words.
judgement(ironic, ehh?)
favourite
scepticism
behaviour
& one grammar error
[semicolon use 2nd paragraph]
(after Georgian Mss.)
that is,U.S.style...
But the main problem I see is:
"The best thing to do is place it at the end of John’s Gospel, as with the miniscule manuscripts 1, 565 etc., as a chronologically unplaced incident."

So, y'all going to add in another Chapter, as suggested below?
(to match the idea of one verse extra on 21, then renumbering
with a new John Chapter 22:1-11.)
You proposing to add all these to the last chapter?

Y'all proposed this cut&paste to a translation group anywhere?

Fuller cites Burgon as stating that of 73 copies of John's Gospel in the British Museum, 61 contain John 7:53-8:11 as found in the AV1611. Burgon indicates that this proportioning would be typical for any Collection of manuscript copies of John. He also cites a further 60 copies, from three distinct lines of ancestry, which agree with the AV1611. He alludes to 35 of the BM copies state that verses 1-11 are not to be read on Whitsunday.
(Explaining why it is lacking in some)
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/scienceJohn.html]]]John 8 defended[/URL]


News Item7/27/08 6:17 PM
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tomthumb wrote:
[URL=http://www.prca.org/pamphlets/pamphlet_9.html]]]faithful translation of the Word of God[/URL]
Wow! good paper!
wish more
'scholars'
had his
attitude
we

would

not

have

the

idea

that

we

need

a

newer

version

of

the

Bible.

some

of

the

better

points?

THE INCEPTION OF THE NEW VERSION

A Puritan's Petition

had some great history

God's Bible

THE TRANSLATORS OF THE KJV

Their Organization
nice break down

Their Learning
Scholars
SPIRITUAL CHARACTER OF THE TRANSLATORS
Godly Believing Men

RULES AND METHODOLOGY

Other Contributors
Careful Work
Accurate Translation

Majestic Translation
KEY POINT

SOURCES USED IN TRANSLATING
Original Languages

Previous Translations

BIBLE OF THE REFORMATION
Stephanus& Beza

Received Text

Tyndale and Rogers
Coverdale and Cranmer
Geneva and King James Versions
God's Grace

A BIBLE FOR WHICH MEN DIED

Greek Text
HEART OF THE MATTER

Wycliffe Tyndale Rogers,Cranmer,Coverdale
Geneva
RECENT SA subject
GOD'S WORD TO HIS CHURCH
Authorized Best
[URL=http://watch.pair.com/another.html]]]see HERE[/URL]


News Item7/27/08 1:53 PM
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PILUT wrote:
MurrayA
credentials?
Mk 12:15 "..receive the kingdom of God
as a little child..."Mt 18:3"become as
little children..."
But
the translating committee of the Authorised Bible WERE scholars of high degree.
so
God uses educated men,
But not Many.1 Co 1:26
(scholars are saved by an `M')
but teachers must have SPIRITual roots
FIRST
1 Cor2:13-15 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man."
And
1 John 2:27 - "..ye need not that any man teach you: ....
Still
Ephesians 4:11-12 And he gave some,..
teachers; For the perfecting of the
saints, for the work of the ministry"
But "Apollos..mighty in the scriptures,...Act18:24"
still needed to have truth
"expounded more perfectly"(v26) to him.
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/Acts10-11.html]]]A BAD SCHOLAR[/URL]
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/1Pet.html]]]'science' falsely so called of text critics[/URL]

News Item7/27/08 9:10 AM
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Will Kinney wrote:
most Christians no longer believe the Scriptures ARE inerrant. Documented proof.
Will Kinney
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/articles.html]]]Superb Defense of the Word of God!!![/URL]
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/NoInerrant.html]]]Most Christians have NO Inerrant Bible[/URL]
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/Misquote.html]]]What today's seminaries produce Bart Ehrman types[/URL]
Excellent account from today's headlines of just WHY people give up on God's words: the CEMETARIES, er
semenaries, ...no, I had it right the first time, CEMETARIES, put out apostates.
Mt.23:14-16 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! ..ye shall receive the greater damnation. ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves...Woe unto you, ye blind guides..."
evidence:MurrayA's desire to cut/paste God's word in replies to John811
'dude,your'bible tag'?now its Jn2211!
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/scienceJohn.htmlhttp://]]]John 8 defended[/URL]
John 7:53-8:11.Entire 12 verses found in the vast Majority of all Gk texts-D plus at least 15 other uncials,many Old Latin copies, the Vulgate,Syriac,Peshitta,Coptic,many church fathers.etc
Ironic that these are replies to "John811"

News Item7/27/08 8:29 AM
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jodie christenson wrote:
7/26/08 7:30 PM
"Jesus didn't even judge Judas"

7/26/08 7:30 PM jodie christenson
" Religous people judged Jesus too"
7/26/08 11:03 PM
I said religious SPIRITS

[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=427081512353]]]Bently Church of the Damned[/URL]
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=518082223398]]]Dr Johnson Exposes bently[/URL]
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=510082215320]]]Watson on Bently[/URL]
Jodie: can you say "I,Jodie, Was wrong"
saying: "Jesus didn't even judge Judas" As I pointed out, & you ignored:
He judged him unworthy of BIRTH!
Mt.26:24;Mk.14:21
Jesus pronounced WOE on the betrayer:
Lk.22:21,... 48
Jn.70,71 Jesus called Judas a DEVIL
ALSO
Jesus called him unclean,Jn 13:10-11,
"LOST","son of perdition"Jn.17:12

Judas Bently IS a "Woebegotten Lost unclean son of Perdition devil"

Jodie: Can you say "I,Jodie, was WRONG"
7/26/08 7:30PM jodie christenson
"Religous people judged Jesus"
7/26/08 11:03PM
"I said religious SPIRITS"
-
Pr. 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
"Thou"& Thee are SINGULAR
this pronoun is
pointing right at each individual.

News Item7/26/08 10:54 PM
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jodie christenson wrote:
"Religous people"
"Jesus didn't even judge Judas"
"Judge not"
"touch not His anointed"
1."Religous people"
a Judgemental statement?
2."Jesus didn't even judge Judas"
He judged him unworthy of BIRTH!
Mt.26:24The Son of man goeth as it is written of him: but woe unto that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! it had been good for that man if he had not been born.
Mk.14:21The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born. "
Jesus pronounced WOE upon him as a
betrayer:
Lk.22:21But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table. 22And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed! "
... 48But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?
Jn.70Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a DEVIL? 71He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
3.
"Judge not"
[URL=http://www.kgov.com/docs/JudgeRightly.html]]]Judge Rightly 1 Cor. 2:15‑16[/URL]
4.
"touch not His anointed"
Then leave Pastor Slattery aloneon't `touch'

News Item7/26/08 9:47 PM
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[URL=http://s8int.com/article-exodus.html]]]FOUND a dozen relics that confirm Exodus[/URL]
A $4-million documentary by Toronto filmmaker Simcha Jacobovici claims to have found archeological evidence verifying the story of the biblical Exodus from Egypt, 3,500 years ago.
In Exodus Decoded, Mr. Jacobovici found almost a dozen overlooked relics that confirm the biblical story.

They include: a miniature, 3,500-year-old gold replica of the lost Ark of the Covenant, said to have been built during the Israelites' 40-year sojourn in the Sinai desert and three stone stelae with carvings depicting a charioteer chasing a single man through churning waters — the pursuer, like the Egyptian army, is ultimately drowned.
& hieroglyph, the el-Arish stone, which appears to recount the Exodus from the Egyptian point of view — as a disaster, that is — and the seal of a royal scarab, found at Avaris north of modern-day Cairo, engraved with the name Ya'akov, the father of Joseph, who the Bible says was grand vizier, the second-most-powerful man after pharaoh.
Barry Wilson, professor of religion, York University;Kenneth Green, professor of Judaic studies, University of Toronto&
Mary-Ann Wegner, professor of Near and Middle Eastern studies at the University of Toronto,
lend some support.


News Item7/26/08 6:38 PM
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a KJV-B lover wrote:
CORRECTION "jim lincoln":
the MOST Understandable, Accurate Translation Available:
DEFINITELY better reading than "jim lincoln" !
funny!
Unicorns charge was easily shot down
below:
when you can see the photo of one
[URL=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,365629,00.html]]]UNICORN IN ITALY: FOX NEWS PHOTO[/URL]
But,
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=111071041450]]]Unicorns are Things Bible rejectors Deny[/URL]
Even when they can see them.
[URL=http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/KJBible/barnett92.htm]]]
The Eternal Bible [/URL] is easy to read if you know the
[URL=http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/KJBible/sense.htm]]]PLAIN SENSE OF SCRIPTURE[/URL]
[URL=http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/KJBible/multiversions.htm]]]Multiversions Onlyism's "puerile criticisms" [/URL] aside.
Jim's link claims "I haven’t found any major Bible version that contradicts well-established Christian theology."
Oh? the NASB(75) says Jesus is a "begotten God" in Jn 1:18.
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/articles.html]]]at Authorised Bible= God's Word![/URL]
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/Jn1-18.html]]]Jn 1v18[/URL]
specifically rebuts NASB here.

News Item7/26/08 7:28 AM
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really enjoyed
Pastor Mike Slattery wrote:
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=427081512353]]]Ignited Church of the Damned[/URL]
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=518082223398]]]Bent
preacher[/URL]
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=510082215320]]]Watson re:Bently[/URL]
Tod BENT ly :truth in advertising!
Tod in German=DEAD,Death.
Rev.23And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.
&
He is BENT:
Hosea 7 "And my people are bent to backsliding from me: though they called them to the most High, none at all would exalt him."
BENT TO BACKSLIDING!
Bently: son of Sceva vagabond:
Acts13-16"Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the LORD Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them
and prevailed against them, so that they fled.."

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[URL=http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fridaynews/news/2008/fridaynews080530.html]]] MEETINGS NOT Orderly, weird,'floating angels",etc[/URL]
Todd Bentley, who is heading up the current “outpouring” in Lakeland, Florida, claims to have seen many angels. Not surprisingly, some of them were “financial angels” who spread prosperity to Word-Faith Pentecostals. One of these is named Emma. “I was in a service in Beulah, North Dakota. In the middle of the service I was in conversation with Ivan and another person when in walks Emma. As I stared at the angel with open eyes, the Lord said, ‘Here's Emma.’ I’m not kidding. She floated a couple of inches off the floor. It was almost like Kathryn Kuhlman in those old videos when she wore a white dress and looked like she was gliding across the platform. Emma appeared beautiful and young--about 22 years old--but she was old at the same time. She seemed to carry the wisdom, virtue and grace of Proverbs 31 on her life. She glided into the room, emitting brilliant light and colors. Emma carried these bags and began pulling gold out of them. Then, as she walked up and down the aisles of the church, she began putting gold dust on people. ‘God, what is happening?’ I asked. The Lord answered: ‘She is releasing the gold, blah, blah, .."

fairy dust???


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a KJV-B lover wrote:
rob wrote:
is the KJB the only Bible God can use ?
A.
#1.Translation TRUEST To The GOD-Preserved 'Original' Tongues/Languages #2.KJV-B CLEAREST, Most HISTORICALLY CORRECT Interpretation
#3.BEST Version for a person to FIRST Learn about the Grace of Christ.
1. Truest is TRUE:
[URL=http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/KJBible/barnett92.htm]]]PERPETUATED TRADITIONAL RECEIVED TEXT WORDS [/URL]
has a 12 point list that supplements your list of why it is truest.

2.
[URL=http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/KJBible/sense.htm]]]PLAIN SENSE OF SCRIPTURE[/URL]
‘We want a Bible version in our own idiom,’ they clamor. ...We want an informal God, no better educated than ourselves, with a limited vocabulary and a taste for modern slang.’
So Rick Warren writes using 23 versions.
3.
Third point is still true:
[URL=http://www.deanburgonsociety.org/KJBible/multiversions.htm]]]Multiversions Onlyism: puerile criticisms rebuked[/URL]

CAN God use other versions?
Lev.11:37 "And if any part of their carcase fall upon any sowing seed which is to be sown, it shall be clean." I take to mean
EVEN THE MEANEST TRANSLATION carries the life of God to mankind,STILL , the choice to sow a crop in a GRAVEYARD
is HARDLY the MOST PRUDENT CHOICE.


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since the Newsweek article below documents "When the family lived in Indonesia, Ann, (mom to Barry Soetoro.a.k.a.Barak Obama) would take the children to Catholic mass"
and
B.O. has never repudiated Romanism
and
B.O. went to Roman Catholic school:
and
[URL=http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/]]]Obama carries a tiny Madonna and child.[/URL]
and he's told Newsweek his philosophy is critically influenced by
Saint Augustine, & Graham Greene, the Roman Catholic Englishman
and
he's not a member of ANY church right now
and
he'll need to join SOME church or mosque when he's elected:
what are the odds Obama will decide to
become an open 'convert' to Roman Catholicism in D.C. as
opposed to openly going to a mosque?
As a politician to the core, that might be a lot more useful for him.
OR
by the same token, I'd not be surprised to see John McCAIN become a
'convert' to Romanism during the campaign: it would probably help him
to try to get the significantly large Roman Catholic vote,that he is courting now with speeches showing a more 'pro-life' attitude.
It would be funny if McCAIN and Obama both decided to convert to Romanism to try to lobby for that vote:
similar to the fact that Hillary and GW Bush are both members of the D.C.
Methodist 'church'.

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Obama carries a tiny monkey god and a
tiny Madonna and child. with him:
this indicates to me the typical ecclecticism of Romanism.

the previous SA article:
[URL=http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=25808]]]Obama's Fake Birth Certificate[/URL]
showed Obama's previous 'church'
allowed him to keep his Islamic Faith:
[URL=http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12745.htm]]]`many Muslim members in our church'[/URL]

B.O. "[URL=http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971]]] was raised a Muslim [/URL] "
went to Roman Catholic school: Obama's "tiny Madonna and child."shows who he is: an ecclectic pagan
see obamamessiah.blogspot.com
He is at least a Papish, Moslem, pagan amalgam: as the NYTimes and Newsweek think is great to reveal: Many Oprahized Americans LOVE Obama's Roman Catholic Muslim paganism.

Re:Romanism:
Saint Augustine, Graham Greene, the Roman Catholic Englishman ,Obamas attending Catholic mass all are documented by Newsweek as informing Obama's thinking.
Those with a 'one way' type of thinking (Jn.14:6) won't like it, but this type of thinking isn't far from McCAIN either: he'd think harping on Obama's mix of Roman Catholic,Muslim/pagan'spiritual' ideology to be devisive.Which is why McCAIN insulted Dobson earlier.


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Eccles wrote:
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If you were "converted" by .[John 14:6 ].., you certainly can't claim to be saved. Quite the opposite.
You ought to pray very hard to the Holy Spirit for guidance on that one.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
VA Reader wrote:
..some misinterpret the scriptures and send many to hell.
I used to be a catholic until I read John 14:6 ... and then God saved a wretch like me.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You ought to pray very hard to the Holy Spirit for guidance on that one.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment.."
Holy Spirit guidance..???

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