I agree with pennnleope. I'm holding off a bit longer before writing/blogging my thoughts on this as I've just read the Duggars' are planning an interview with FOX News (?). Anyway, we have got to stop hiding things like this because we are Christians and if we don't speak up for the defenseless, then we are not good for more than use as saltless road pavement. May God forgive those who have been trying to keep this sordid mess hushed up.
Jules, this is a topic I can't discuss in a cold, sterile manner... I keep thinking of innocent-minded children being exposed to sex abuse by a sibling - someone they love and trust who committed the ultimate betrayal. It's probably best I don't discuss this with you as I'm very close to losing my temper.
Just a minute sir (or madam), My position has been consistently one of the parents knew about their children's sex abuse before they became reality TV stars and should not have put them in the national spotlight in the first place. And when quoting me, please keep remarks in proper context. Thanks.
This will probably be my last comment as I have limited time and will probably write something in greater detail for my blog when able to, but let's not forget that our God is one of judgment as well as grace and mercy. It's no accident this sin was made public, and I cannot help but hope the Duggars will use it for His Glory by admitting it to be the sin it is and using their celebrity to help encourage child abuse victims to tell on their perpetrators. Josh could probably help provide insight into what would drive a teen to such wickedness - even one who is sheltered from the world as he was.
Timing - Perhaps the timing of exposure is suspect, but at least the victims are now adults (or almost) and better able to handle the scrutiny. I think the young aspiring country singer is trying to profit from the Duggar's celebrity. It's silly to equate child sex abuse with a child being born out of wedlock before their parent's conversion.
Dear anti-tale-bearer in Still Waters and Jules, I don't think anyone is questioning God's mercy and ability to save miserable sinners. For many of us this is a hot button topic because we or someone we love was sexually abused as children by those whom we loved and suffered severe consequences from it. We don't want to see this topic continue to be buried because people are afraid to speak out due to being considered as tale-bearers or gossips. As far as the motives of this fire chief in the article - do we know them? This ordeal reminds me of Amnon and Tamar (2 Sam. 13) and even perhaps the story of the Hebrew mid-wives who lied to Pharoah in Exodus. Hope this clarifies my thoughts on the matter. Thanks.
I think "A sister" has a good point. Frankly, Christians should be held to higher standard than the world and when we grossly sin it is a big deal! We are hypocritical if we close ranks on a fellow believer who has broken the law or been part of a cover-up by his parents, but we jump unmercifully on unbelievers who sin and break the law.
I really need to do a blog post on this whole sordid matter... Anyway, here's a link to an article at CP which really nails it for me regarding Josh Duggar's apology which I found to be frightfully lacking in substance:
I'm one who respects the privacy of others, as well as guards my own. My old wounds weren't better being sealed. Knowing that sharing my experience might help someone else by encouraging them to go to their parents or another adult for help is worth making myself vulnerable on this message board. Plus, encouraging and praying for others who have had far worse abuse is a wonderful blessing. Exposing this evil isn't gossip or persecution of the Duggars'; instead it's serving a much needed higher purpose to expose and help end the abuse for others. Additional thought: If the abuse happened 12 years ago, then I suspect the victims are now adults for the most part and hopefully are better equipped to handle the scrutiny. As has been said, they should have never been put in the spotlight by their parents.
I was contemplating if I should vote for Huckabee for President, but after reading this and other articles about his defense of the Duggars', I just cannot give him my vote. His reaction to this matter seems to reek of shallowness and lack of empathy for the victims. There is no way he can win my confidence and vote now.
Thanks Jim... Your comment really touched my heart. I remember the terror I felt as the abuser was an older male cousin I looked up to. He was probably 14 or 15 years of age and I was 10 years (or perhaps a bit younger). Praise the Lord, my mother could tell something was wrong with me the next day and I told her what happened. The abuser left me alone after his initial attempt and my parents kept me away from him. I don't even know where he is now or if he's still alive. The reason I'm telling of my experience is to point out that this really is a serious sexual sin and the victims need protection and justice. We need to warn our children about sexual sins and protect them; don't sweep it under the rug and then sign them up for a reality TV show.
Before we cart this woman off to the stocks or worse, let's wait and hear her reasons for releasing the info. I'll be truthful and tell you that I have personal experience of being a child and having someone wake me up in the middle of the night to attempt molestation, so I'm very emotional about this issue.
You will be in my prayers. The good Lord brought my cousin to Himself for spiritual healing before her death and I look forward to our family reunion in Heaven. May the good Lord bless you even more as you are such a blessing to others, including me. Thank you.
Thanks Unprofitable Servant! I'll share a personal story about my cousin who was a few months younger than me and who I thought of as a sister. She had negligent parents in the sense that while they clothed and fed her, they out of ignorance (perhaps) left her wide open for sexual molestation at a young age (12 years?). The extended family youths heard rumors she was being abused by a cousin or cousins. I really don't know how many molested her, but she was too ashamed to admit it was happening or seek help from others. As a consequence she grew up feeling like a used, dirty piece of trash. She then went on to marry at a young age and abused alcohol and drugs. She died from kidney failure before her 40th birthday. I still weep for her and will not be silent when I hear of abuse, nor will I sweep it under the rug; God is my witness. Amen.
As you all pray and close ranks around the Duggars, let's also remember the innocent children who were molested and might be scarred for life. Yes, God is merciful and I'm glad Josh repented of his horrible sin and has been forgiven. However, there are still consequences for the victims. I also grew up in the 1970's and while many of my friends were into heavy petting, it was still taboo for a brother to molest his sister or other relatives. Let this be a lesson parents need to discuss and teach their children about.
Something I'm not hearing much about is the serious nature of the young man's sin - sexually molesting younger girls when he was a teen. (Please correct me if this is not the case.) Also, if my understanding of the time line is correct, the Duggar parents knew about this sexual sin before they became a reality based TV series. I would think it more prudent for the parents to forego starring in a television program which invites the public into their home life and focus on their many children, especially this young man in particular.
I think I've finally gotten a handle on FB. In the past I would get so discouraged reading some of my "friends" posts (not out of envy, but discouragement at their preoccupation with the world) and comments that I would have to deactivate my account for a couple of months. Now I've learned to control what I see by changing the settings to where I don't see their posts. I think it's a beast one must learn to manage/control if they are going to use it as a platform to share theology and Christian news, as I do.
Michael, When I first read the story I thought about the mainline churches that went liberal years ago and who are now barely keeping their doors open. A mega church pastor showing his true colors doesn't affect me because I am not in his church. I would hope this news would stir up a faithful remnant at Grace Point who will speak out and find a faithful church to join. I'm glad the good Lord is exposing this wolf in sheep's clothing and I would hope Grace Point fires him. However, it sounds like the leadership is in agreement and if that's the case, the faithful Christian has no choice but to leave.