John UK wrote: The problem with your point Mike, is that Jesus carried his stauros for part of the way to Golgotha according to my text. So if you were translating stauros in the text, you could not translate it as 'pole' because you say that was already in place. Which only leaves the crossbeam, but it does not say 'crossbeam' it says 'cross'. But stauros actually means 'pole' or 'stake'. Can you see the problem?
John your oft quoted verse demonstrates the cross was in two pieces. In more than one gospel it is noted that Simon bore part of the cross and in John we see the following verses
John 19:16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away. John19:17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:
If our Lord bore His cross to Golgatha and Simon also bore part of it, then it would suggest there were two different pieces, one heavier (the pole) and one lighter (the cross beam)
Brother Frank. having been praying for the pastor with the cancer.
Good to see sister MS post!! My wife and I social distancing policy seems to described in Job 41:16
n first century Palestine, where most crucifixions are believed to have taken place, there were various kinds of crosses that were used for crucifixions. There was the â€ścrux simplex,â€ť which was a simple lower case â€śtâ€ť shaped cross that had a footrest on it, there was the â€ścrux commissa,â€ť which was a capital â€śTâ€ť shaped structure, there was the â€ścrux decussata,â€ť which was the â€śXâ€ť shaped cross that St. Andrew is believed to have been crucified on, and then there was the â€ścrux imissa,â€ť the lower case â€śtâ€ť cross with no foot rest, the kind of cross that Jesus Christ is believed to have been crucified on. The crosses made in Palestine were mostly crafted from pine, cedar, and cypress trees, with pine made crosses being the most prevalent in Jerusalem.
Adriel wrote: Unprofitable Servant wrote:- Note what Paul said in II Timothy 1:12 for I know whom **I have believed**, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which **I have committed** to him against that day." And GOD had nothing whatsoever to provide Paul with the ability to perceive sin and believe/commit??????? Did HE Unprofitable Servant. Save yourself syndrome is popery.
Adriel, are you just responding off the top of your head or are you taking time to read my posts?
Note what I have said in previous posts
Brother, no ones discounting the necessity of the work of God in salvation 4/12/2020 2:25 PM
like it or not that involves human action and it does not undermine the work of the Holy Spirit in regeneration 4/9/2020 9:27 PM
that did not take away from the work of the Holy Spirit in birthing him from above it was the means God used. 4/9/2020 4:39 PM
Once again Adreil, do you think that Paul did not believe in the sovereignty of God?
Note what Paul said in II Timothy 1:12 for I know whom **I have believed**, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which **I have committed** to him against that day.
This is inspired Scripture are you going to say that you and your quoted theologians are correct but God is wrong?
Think about the Biblical fact that there are degrees of punishment in hell and rewards in heaven. This would not be the case if man did not have God given responsibility Note the words of Paul as he shows the balance
I Corinthians 15:10. Â But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
Philippians 2 12Â Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13Â For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure
Brother, no ones discounting the necessity of the work of God in salvation or the fact that in Him all live and move and have our being.
Adriel wrote: . As for 'means' God created them all. God is first cause.
Then you should not have a problem with the headline as you expressed in your previous post.
People donâ€™t go to bed unregenerate and wake up saved because they are elect. It doesnâ€™t happen that way. You need to stop out doing the Bible. The Scriptures says â€śwhosoever shall call upon the name of the LORD shall be savedâ€ť like it or not that involves human action and it does not undermine the work of the Holy Spirit in regeneration. When the Philippian jailer asked what must I do to be saved, Paulâ€™s response wasnâ€™t â€śdonâ€™t do a thing, if your elect youâ€™ll be saved and if your a reprobate thereâ€™s no hope for you.â€ť
Note what Paul said in II Timothy 1:12
for I know whom **I have believed**, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which â€ťI have committed** to him against that day.
Adriel wrote: The Lord does not require a virus to bring in the elect. He prefers to use Grace. But the Liberalists use human means to indoctrinate more Liberalists. .
God is a God of means and that does not take away from His sovereign grace. John Newton's conversion was one that started after enslavement and being on a boat that nearly sank, that did not take away from the work of the Holy Spirit in birthing him from above it was the means God used. This article does not say a virus is required. Simply that people facing the certainty of the brevity of life are open to hearing the gospel of the grace of God.
God uses means, whether it is a message heard (like Spurgeon's conversion), or a tract read, or the faithful witness of a Christian co-worker, or the godly living of a faithful spouse (I Peter 3:1), or a book like Pilgrim's Progress, the Holy Spirit uses means to accomplish the work that only He ultimately can do. Don't look down on these things, brother Adriel.
John UK wrote: According to many, today is Holy Tuesday of Holy Week, otherwise known as Pancake Day.
Might be because not in area dominated by Catholics or Europe but don't hear much of "Holy Week" here and according to my research Pancake Day occurs before Ash Wednesday (again not big in my area) not during this week, just a fyi.
CV wrote: Lovely US God so meticulously established the requirement for the Passover - the date/time/details around it. For our Lord, just any day would not suffice. It had to be the Passover. You tell me on what authority do you or AIG have of moving the dates and renaming it?
My apologies, I have already opted out of that discussion. If you had taken the time to read my posts you would know I believe that the resurrection is part of the daily Christian walk (see Romans 6:4) and also the premise of your question is inaccurate. On what authority do you arrive at your figure of 95% of church is apostate and that AIG is demonically deceptive, pretty strong statements that appear to have no backing.
CV wrote: US AIG is demonically deceptive. Get them out of the churches! John you're looking at the power of tradition to blind and bind. 95% of the church is apostate.
Thanks again for. Your response CV. Just give a tad bit of help if you would please. When I went to to AIG article it included 9 foot notes to back his assertions with links to another article with 10, so his thoughts are well researched.
You claim that 95% of the church is apostate, a figure which you completely made up. (Hopefully you realize the church â€”Ephesians 5:25â€” is 100% genuine)
Sorry not trying to ignore people and thank you B McCausland and CV for your responses. Although not trying in anyway to reinitiate the conversation both of you may have missed the link provided early in the discussion. Regiven for your parosel if you wish. Thanks again for taking the time to respond earlier.
Also agree with Carol. We didnâ€™t start this discussion about what happens in the church but what we do as individuals. Our church still preaches from the Word of God, sing songs of praise and worship and attempt to glorify the Lird in all that is done.