It seems to me about half or more of the cases documented in the article are overbearing pastors with iron fists, and are using said fists in the wrong manner on the wrong issues....

Wine is wine; And all wine is alcoholic. By saying it wasn't alcholic, you are saying it's not wine but something else, and thus saying the Bible lies.

I would suggest you people stay away from GG and the other catholics here, until you can argue like Christians.

The brash, proud, arrogant and generally holier-than-thou way you argue with RC's here is sickening. Would you witness to somebody you just ran across on the street in that way? Hopefully the answer to that is no.

The way to win people is not through calling them names and generally cutting them down like you do.

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She must think the WCF is the Word of God.

lyn, suffice it to say that Jesus did indeed turn that water into alcholic real wine, otherwise the host would not have raved on it so. Because unfermented wine is just grape juice, and lacks both the taste and sting feeling of wine. And yes we can also assume the people did get drunk off of it, because that's what they did at weddings back then. And when you read John 2 it does indeed reveal intent to drunkeness, the host says so himself:

“Everyone serves the good wine first, and when people have drunk freely, then the poor wine. But you have kept the good wine until now.”

If your curious of what I mean, it's that they brought the subpar wine out last because the people were so drunk by then they wouldn't have cared what it tasted like. And that's what's significant about Jesus turning the water into excellent wine. Side note: it was miracle wine and did not need time to ferment. It was fully fermented on the spot.

Tell the righteous that it shall be well with them,
for they shall eat the fruit of their deeds.
Woe to the wicked! It shall be ill with him,
for what his hands have dealt out shall be done to him.
My people—infants are their oppressors,
and women rule over them.

More Sex Ed + Less Morality = More Sex, Teen pregnancy etc.

If you aven't caught my drift yet, AVA, it's that your disturbing and and exetremly irrational hatred of catholics is not Christian.