Thank you Quiet and for anyone else with a burden for china. I often look at the news from a different perspective, from the inside... looking out, and just get upset that so much of what is written is wrong, or twisted by the journalists.
But unless I open a teleportal and drop you into China, it is really difficult to explain.
May God open up opportunities for your churches to personally visit China someday.
didn't we have like 5 news articles this week about that very controversial church with thousands of members meeting in an apartment refusing to register and pretending to persecuted for the gospel but actually their goal was bring democracy to communist lands?
Or how about from the same organization and their approval of religious people idolizing their crosses and calling that a good Christian thing to do?
Gee, I wonder how many times next week will hear the same stories repeated over and over again.
Every pastor says that christian bookstores are filled with theological equivalent of poo, yet get their news from just as equally poopy Christianity today.
Fret not yourself because of evildoers; be not envious of wrongdoers! For they will soon fade like the grass and wither like the green herb. Trust in the Lord , and do good; dwell in the land and befriend faithfulness. Psalms 37:1â€-â€¬3 ESV
If it helps, I really find the transcriptions and PDFs really useful. Please don't merge them, as the PDF's are often different and contain different content such as a pastors power point presentation, compared to transcribed sermons which are word to word copy of the sermon. It's really good that we can filter between PDF's and transcribes.
I think the most common question "does your mission field has insert developed western thing "
and of course the truth is no, but what prosperity the church lacks in china, is met with some genuine blessing from God, such as more people willing to sacrifice for a good cause. I got my entire mouth of 12 teeth fixed for cheap by a christian dentist.
Every church is held accountable to the grace they receive from God. The chinese church is accountable for the blessings it receives, but so is your church. I would encourage anyone with a burden for china to talk with someone who was there and they will comfirm much of what I say.
As far as children ministry goes, officially you can't bring your kids to church. But from talking with some believers, they take this as God's will to take Responcibility for their kids in their home. Too many people use the church as a babysitting tool, while never attending or contributing much to the church.
Because we are supposed to follow the law of the land, if you have 3000+ people meeting in an apartment, you are supposed to register. Size matters, this is not a gospel issue, unless you can prove me wrong.
The leaders of this church, and this church alone sought trouble, found trouble, hence the beatings. They are not known as peacemakers, just google their name, they are known for going against the government. On the other hand, many other faithful churches are known for being peacemakers, shining brightly. All your info comes from one place: China Aid, Bob Fu, ministry for human rights issues, to establish democracy in communist lands. This is not what Christians are called to do.
Replying because some foolish person called me out:
I won't rejoice ever for any suffering, I hate even the concept of hell, even though it's 100% true and just. But go ahead slander me. Compare me to Euthanasia.
This article has nothing new, it's always one church, the Early rain church, yet to gain clicks, they call it a "Megachurch".
Why don't they make it clear, that they are being persecuted not for the gospel, but because this Megachurch refuses to register with government. Why should a Megachurch with thousands of members not be registered?
There are many small house churches who are not registered and are fellowshiping in peace. That is a fact. You get too big, you must register. Why are people rejoicing in a Megachurch? Why not follow the biblical model and split up? Have they forgotten to train men?
There are many 3 self churches who legally operate and preach faithfully. Try the Beijing Haidian Christian church, with it's international and local services.
And as far as persecution in the CCP, clearly you are allowed to leave the group. Why would any Christian be unequally yoked? Would you remain in your company who supports abortion, just for the free dental insurance? What does this say about your commitment to the Lord?
If all fails, they can just throw a money bomb; trillions of fake NK currency, which will devalue their currency, and make them dependent on some other bills, forcing a regime change or face a depression.
It seems like any website can just add "christian" to it's name and it becomes trustworthy, and so it is with the Christian post.
The african gospel is no gospel, unless you believe Joel Osteen, Rick Warren, hold to the truth. Do you? Christian Post does. Sermonaudio is a blessing, but I predict the news part of this site will curse it. Certainly preachers like Paul Washer, Voddie Baucham would agree with me.
all Good points Quiet Christian ðŸ˜Š. Everyone today wants to find something in common with false religions, where there are none. This article might work for works based cults like catholism, the many pentacostals, Seven day adventism, all who rely on the Law of moses for their salvation. They can't start with grace of Jesus, and therefore must start with the idolatery of the Pharisee.
"They answered him, "We are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved to anyone. How is it that you say, 'You will become free'?" Jesus answered them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who practices sin is a slave to sin.
I know that you are offspring of Abraham; yet you seek to kill me because my word finds no place in you. John 8:33â€-â€¬34â€, â€¬37
If this is what westerners think china is, they then will be in shock when they visit here.
Cultural Revolution DID NOT fail, what this means is to the average chinese person confucianism is about as relevant as the Bible is to a Millennial, i.e, not at all, save perhaps for a few quips here and there.
To the "does this make sense" guy below: Sometime the communists figured out that most people never read the articles, just the headlines, what's more and this is related to you, they observed that people spend more time reading the comments from others, and were more likely to agree with them. Having learned this, they spent a lot of money into fake posters, getting paid to promote their corporations worldview.