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News Item8/11/18 12:32 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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I think they need to visit the mosques in their area, since Muslims preach the woman's complete submission to the man. Note that in Saudi Arabia, considered to be the most perfect Muslim country in the world, only recently allowed women to drive. (Of course, some men in the US might think they are on a slippery slope to much worse things coming up).
For Muslims, women cannot be out on their own, period. They must be at home under the control of their father, or their husband.
Many Hispanics believe their children should live with their parents until they get married.

News Item8/11/18 12:27 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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This article, from the South Carolina newspaper, has a lot of meat to it.
I recommend everyone take the time to check it out, especially the pictures.
Of course, you can argue the figures are not accurate, when in the fine print, they admit that not all Southern Baptist cthe hurches report their numbers to the central office.
As for United Methodists, I can understand them failing, in part due to their doctrinal deviation on the sodomite issue.
The newspaper article has a bit about a church meeting in a tavern, a bar that is.
It reminds me of the other story here at S.A. about the California church making and serving beer. What will they think of next? Maybe meet in the parking lot of a shopping center?

News Item8/11/18 12:16 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Neil, I wouldn't be too hard on the S.A. editors. It's so easy to go for 'click-bait' stories like this one, just like they failed to check the authenticity of the "New study" from 2014 that you and I have both commented on here.
You would think there are more recent surveys on church membership than 2014, and some official sounding group like the Church Growth Institute would be posting it. Or at least the Barna group.

News Item8/11/18 12:12 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Interesting, Cora, how you found racism in this story.
Unless you are thinking of the origins of Planned Parenthood. You know that Margaret Sanger, its founder, was a firm believer in eugenics, the same phony science that the National Socialist Party in Germany used to excuse their Final Solution.
Sanger believed that blacks and Hispanics are lower class by their genes, so she started Planned Parenthood to have more of them aborted. Today, as part of that heritage, you will find their locations in mostly black and Hispanic neighborhoods. Check your local phone book listings to see this.

News Item8/11/18 12:03 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Today's news has an article about a survey that the investing company Schwab did about what people consider to be wealthy.
The survey was done in 2018, this year.
So I wonder of the worth of this story, besides being what is called in the internet today, 'click bait.'
Another aspect is that the author is free-lance, meaning no major news agency sponsored it. It would be like having some guy in his pajamas, living in his parents' basement, finding this 2014 survey and writing the story.

News Item8/10/18 3:31 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Great advice.
Reminds me of the verse from the Old Testament that says, cursed be he who puts his trust in man.
I wonder if politics might have something to do with this story. In 2014, under the Obama Regime, you could say that old fashioned religion was on the run, with all his support of sodomites and other nonChristian causes.
With President Donald Trump, we see a repudiation of this and an endorsement of traditional US values. Maybe this will bring people back to churches?
I know it won't help them read the music in hymnals, and their taste for pipe organ music has probably not changed much either. And then, sitting with a group of people, all facing forward, listening to one guy go on and on and on, without being able to look at your smartphone or talk on the phone, might be too much for many to handle. Maybe once a month they might do that, but otherwise, they are too busy.
And the secular society has made it harder by offering sports leagues and other activities on Sundays. Few restaurants are closed on Sundays, so many are taking jobs there to supplement their incomes so they can go on Caribbean cruises and overseas vacations.

News Item8/10/18 2:53 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Is 2014 new? The article says the survey is from 2014. How can that be new? We are in August 2018, so at least 4 years have gone by. Even the US President has changed, not that politics has anything to do with this story!
Adriel, if we are living in apostate times, what is the solution? Run to the hills, install a 20-ft deep bomb shelter, stock up on survival food and gold coins?

News Item8/10/18 12:45 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Thanks, Neil, for pointing that out.
I was jesting when I mentioned all those details, because for many people, that is what 'going to church' is all about.

What is Scriptural in 'churches' today?
I wonder about one aspect--where Paul says older women should teach younger women.
Instead of that, we see older women in church forming their own social groups, not teaching or training younger women. And of course, would younger women want to listen to the grannies, when they depend on their doctors or the MayoClinic or WebMD for advice.

Society does not help in separating the seasoned citizens from all others in their own 'seasoned citizen centers'
Some say the concept of a sermon-where one guy gets up in front a large group, and no one can interrupt to ask questions or add their own thoughts--is not in the New Testament. Paul spoke to groups wherever he went, but we don't have any Paul around today. Acts talks of people meeting daily and sharing wh
But I do wonder about the value of the article, after reading that it is talking of survey data from 2014! They must have been digging around for old data, anything negative to throw on the screen to see if it will stick. With computers around today, you could do a survey each month or each year, and then tell us what the tr


News Item8/10/18 12:12 PM
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Excellent story that goes with the others about South Carolina churches closing and the California church making and serving beer.

It definitely looks like the taste for that old fashioned religion with pipe organ playing, choir singing, hymn books open and people knowing how to read music, Wednesday night dinners, 11am traditional services, has disappeared.

You could say this is a result of the parents not teaching their children the precepts of their religion.

And thanks for the comments from readers in England, where Muslims are filling spaces left by churches. I think I read somewhere that there are more mosques than churches. My question for those commenters is--have you started hearing the 5am calls to prayer from those mosques?

Of course, the source of the survey is the Pew group, a well-known liberal group that loves to show how things are going badly for any conservative causes.
They would never do a survey showing people are not interested in PBS programs, or how newspapers' circulations are going down or how PBS, CNN, or MSNBC programs are losing rating share to Fox cable shows.


News Item8/10/18 12:00 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Compare this story with the one about the California church making and serving beer. Obviously, the old-fashioned religion is not appealing, and even in South Carolina, Baptist churches--who you would guess do preach the Bible--are closing due to members leaving. It certainly looks like the tradition of hymn-singing, pipe organ playing, stained glass windows, pews all facing to the altar in the front, choirs, Sunday school campaigns, buses picking up people, Wednesday night dinner, 11am Sunday traditional service, is not cutting it anymore. Looks like churches, even in the Bible Belt, better wake up and smell the coffee.
I guess Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Church did not work out.
Or people have followed Malachi's words to test me in this (tithing)and found it lacking. Why should they take ten percent of their gross income and send it to the place on the corner, where it will be used to pay for heating, air conditioning that room with the pews, pipe organ, and salaries. Can they get lots of sermons online. They can meet with their neighbors in their homes to study the Bible. They can help out Habitat for Humanity or at the hospital whenever they get that urge to volunteer to help the community.

News Item8/7/18 4:45 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Listen to Albert Mohler's commentary on this to get a very full and detailed description of what is wrong with this conference and movement.
I think it is interesting to compare the secular world's change in dealing with sodomites. A few decades ago, the American Psychological Assoc. considered homosexuality as a mental illness and included it in their manual of diseases, alongside schizophrenia and kleptomaniacs. But the sodomites got organized and fought the APA to make them change that evaluation and remove it from their manual. They did that.
Compare that to 'hoarding' which years ago no one thought was strange or unusual. But the secular society, with its powerful tool of TV, started to focus on it as a disease, and the APA soon added it as a mental disease to their manual.
What a world! Where something that has been condemned throughout the world by all religions is now considered acceptable, and anyone saying it's a disease will be shouted down. In Muslim countries, the penalty for homosexuality is death. So this Revoice conference should be scheduled in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, or Pakistan to see what reaction they would get there.

News Item8/7/18 4:30 PM
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Martin Luther could answer the previous question; he is recorded as missing his wife's beer when he was away from home.

News Item8/7/18 2:54 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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Is this part of a trend to make the church more relevant today? The Revoice conference seemed to be aimed that way. (If only they realized that sodomites make up only about 2 percent of the population! There are probably more blind folk out there than that, so why don't they promote an outreach to that 'community'?).

Also, there are many different apps for your smartphone to read the Bible with, so it's not unusual for someone to read some verses on their phone while sitting in a restaurant.

Maybe another meaning of this is that the old-fashioned religion of the previous centuries does not work today. Pipe organs are not held in much high esteem, nor the music played on them, stained glass windows, pews facing the front with various symbols around it, and an 11:00am starting time for the traditional worship service, just doesn't attract the crowds that used to attend.


News Item8/7/18 2:44 PM
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Remember Obama saying, 'if they bring a knife, we bring a gun'? Obviously, this is what is happening in the majority-black areas of Chicago; even the mainstream media NBC could not avoid covering the 69 shootings, 11 dead over the weekend. Remember that Rahm Emmanuel is the Mayor of Chicago, and he worked for Obama for a while. Looks like none of Obama's charm rubbed off on him!

News Item8/6/18 4:06 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
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I have seen similar results from a study done of sleep habits. The average American retiree watches 51 hours of TV weekly (that's more than 7 hours per day!), and this study was done before smartphones and tablets became as ubiquitous as they are today.
Another study said that TV-watching time was decreasing for older adults, but they weren't sleeping more, so smartphones are taking up the time.
On the other hand, you can have the Bible on your smartphone, so using it could be that it is not a bad thing entirely. In churches today you will see people use their phone to look up a verse cited by the preacher.
Health experts, though, say that using anything with a screen an hour or less before you go to sleep can impair your sleeping.

News Item8/6/18 3:22 PM
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And how do we know whether this message is being preached in US mosques, and in US prisons? It certainly looks like 'freedom of religion' is not such a good idea when a religion preaches violence.

News Item8/3/18 11:54 AM
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I wonder how this relates to the news story from a while back about how more children are being homeschooled in North Carolina than are being sent to private schools.
And I wonder if other states are in any better shape with their teachers.

News Item8/3/18 11:43 AM
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Funny, but I didn't notice any anxiety about the household debt reported on any other source. I guess the John Birch Society, publisher of this "New American" magazine, has their reporters doing a better job than any other news sources I pay attention to.
I am not worried; what does it say in Proverbs 32: Figures lie and liars figure.
You can prove anything with statistics, and many medical studies are false because of their inaccurate and wrong use of statistics.
Dave Ramsey, famous Christian financial adviser, has promoted people getting out of debt, and I can't believe his number 3 rated talk show is doing nothing. Somewhere else, I think, I have seen studies showing more Americans are paying off their mortgages. Of course, you can reply with the saying attributed to the late British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."

News Item8/3/18 11:37 AM
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The main issue was the death penalty, I thought, which they said was immoral.

News Item7/30/18 2:42 PM
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Utah needs to do their homework to see if they want this in their state. Yes, many sick people can be helped, but will it become an abuse issue. Pain-killers like oxycodone are legal with a prescription, yet you find many doctors operating 'clinics' that just become dispensaries of these drugs.
What many people don't know is that the doctors are getting a cut of the action on the drug.
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