Mike, I think Jim has actually said before he thinks vacc's should be mandatory. I think parents should have the choice and not be penalized either way. Those who do vacc shouldn't be worried about my non-vacc'ed kids because they're "safe"... right...?

The audacity takes my breath away... "extend his powers of forgiveness"?!?! These woman will need a mighty work of the Holy Spirit to save their souls if they agree to fall under the blasphemy of this so-called "forgiveness". Lost souls!

The fact remains that there is human DNA lines in two of the most popular vacc's in the U.S. from aborted babies. I find it a very credible concern, morally speaking.

two vaccines against hepatitis A, one produced by Merck (VAQTA), the other one produced by GlaxoSmithKline (HAVRIX), both of them being prepared using MRC-5;
one vaccine against chicken pox, Varivax®, produced by Merck using WI-38 and MRC-5;
one vaccine against poliomyelitis, the inactivated polio virus vaccine Poliovax® (Aventis-Pasteur, Fr.) using MRC-5;
one vaccine against rabies, Imovax®, produced by Aventis Pasteur, harvested from infected human diploid cells, MRC-5 strain;
one vaccine against smallpox, AC AM 1000, prepared by Acambis using MRC-5, still on trial.

"To date, there are two human diploid cell lines which were originally prepared from tissues of aborted foetuses (in 1964 and 1970) and are used for the preparation of vaccines based on live attenuated virus: the first one is the WI-38 line (Winstar Institute 38), with human diploid lung fibroblasts, coming from a female foetus that was aborted because the family felt they had too many children (G. Sven et al., 1969). It was prepared and developed by Leonard Hayflick in 1964 (L. Hayflick, 1965; G. Sven et al., 1969) and bears the ATCC number CCL-75. WI-38 has been used for the preparation of the historical vaccine RA 27/3 against rubella (S.A. Plotkin et al, 1965). The second human cell line is MRC-5 (Medical Research Council 5) (human, lung, embryonic) (ATCC number CCL-171), with human lung fibroblasts coming from a 14 week male foetus aborted for "psychiatric reasons" from a 27 year old woman in the UK. MRC-5 was prepared and developed by J.P. Jacobs in 1966 (J.P. Jacobs et al, 1970). Other human cell lines have been developed for pharmaceutical needs, but are not involved in the vaccines actually available.

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I think it's a loosing battle, that is, I do believe at some point in the near future it will be mandatory, but for now we have a choice. Choose wisely. Our bodies are not our own and Christians especially should be careful with the vessel we have been given, not to exhault it above the soul, but to care for it while we are on earth and have the means to do so. If someone still feels they should have their children vaccinated, that's their choice. And, if they are so convinced that vaccinations are that great, they also must be protected from those who choose not to, right? So what's the problem??

Jim, if you'll give me a bit of time to try and find it, that quote you had about the evil, neighbor-hating anti-vaxxers: I believe that is nearly an exact quote from Hitlers regime when he was forcing the Germans to inccoculate their "dirty rotten Jewish neighbors." It was propaganda at it's finest and it spurred on the murder of millions. So sad to see it publicly raise its ugly head once again. It's eugenics. This will always go back to eugenics; well, eugenics and power.