JD, “Are you wiser than God” No

JD, “Was it said that Jesus Christ was dead” yes

JD, “and did God mean he was dead when it is said he raised him from the dead” yes

JD, “and his raising was a birth?” No

JD “And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all [things] he might have the pre-eminence” yes

“Christ is the "firstborn"; he is the firstborn of God, the begotten of the Father, he is the first begotten, and as such he is the only begotten; he is the firstborn of Mary, she had none before him, and he is the only one that ever was born in the manner he was; he is the first begotten from the dead, his resurrection is called a begetting, and he was the first in time that rose from the dead by his own power, and to an immortal life, and the first in causality and dignity. Christ is the firstborn with respect to all creatures in general; he was begotten of the Father before all creatures were..."

JD wrote:
Quote quoted,
JD wrote, “He told Nicodemas that a man had to be "born again" to enter into it and later we see that he himself is called the "firstborn". Can we say then that his kingdom then began with himself when he was born of the Spirit.”
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". . .He was begotten. Do you know what the word begotten means? It means reborn. Do you want another shocker? Have you been begotten? So was He. Don't let anyone deceive you. Jesus was reborn. . .He was reborn. He had to be reborn. . .If He was not reborn, I could not be reborn."

JD wrote:
I have already said that I believe calvinism is a cult on the same order as russellism amd smithism (mormonism).

Who believes that Jesus Christ died spiritually and was also born-again! What heresy!

JD wrote, “…Christ died both spiritually and then physically, the same as Adam.”

JD wrote, “He told Nicodemas that a man had to be "born again" to enter into it and later we see that he himself is called the "firstborn". Can we say then that his kingdom then began with himself when he was born of the Spirit.”

JD wrote “At his resurrection his bod, soul and Holy Spirit were reunited and God called this a birth in his humanity, just like our birth. When we receive the indwelling Spirit of God, he calls it being born again.”

Not to mention his hyper-dispensationalism and also his prediction of when he thinks the rapture will take place.

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear) unto this day. And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
(Rom 11:7-10)

For God so loved the world (to some this means every single person that ever lived) yet it is recorded in Mal 1:3 and Romans 9:13 that God hated Esau!

Michael wrote "Sin" is the reason for the wrath of God not a twisted pleasure to damn the hopeless."

Michael Hranek wrote:
And such a "belief" makes meaningless the PROMISE of the gospel

Did the Lord Jesus Christ desire the salvation of the multitude recorded in John?

But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? Therefore they COULD NOT BELIEVE, BECAUSE that Esaias said again, He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them…(Joh 12:37-41)

Did the Lord desire the salvation of Elymas?

Michael Hranek wrote:
And why in the world would anyone who knows of Jesus Christ and understands the gopel urge anyone to believe such a myth is totally way beyond me.

Michael Hranek wrote:
Hearing and leaning from the Father certainly goes AGAINST the theology of life/regeneraion BEFORE and APART FROM FAITH.

Why?

Also, are you saying that everyone can believe under the preached Word because God has given everyone of them the gift of faith? If this is not the case please clarify what you mean.

Michael Hranek wrote:
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What does the Scripture say???

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
(Eph 1:3-6)

So then is everyone under the hearing of the Word of God given the gift of faith?

Regarding Rev 22
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.

The Scriptures tell us who it is that hears, My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

The Scriptures declare who will come, it is all those that the Father has given Him. They will desire Christ and will hunger and thirst for Him and His Gospel.

Michael Hranek wrote:
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You've kind of gotten it backwards and what you've posted is contrary to the straight up teaching of God Himself in the Scriptures

Can we be even more specific? Yes, because if this is the second letter addressed to them, the first makes it clear who he is writing to. 1 Peter 1:1,2 - “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered …Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father…” So Peter is writing to the elect in 2 Peter 3, saying:

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to US-WARD, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
(2Pe 3:8-9)

JD wrote:
He says that the blood of Christ was the propitiation for the Jews and the gentiles.

JD wrote:
Is your answer yes or no?
YES!
Now a question for you:
Are you comfortable of facing God one day in judgment and having to answer for saying that the blood of Jesus Christ did not satify his wrath against the sin of the whole world as he said it did? 1 John 2:2

Very comfortable because according to the Scriptures Christ’s atonement satisfied divine justice for the sins of His people.

"1Jn 2:2 - And he is the propitiation for our sins,.... For the sins of us who now believe, and are Jews:

and not for ours only; but for the sins of Old Testament saints, and of those who shall hereafter believe in Christ, and of the Gentiles also, signified in the next clause:

JD wrote:
Fourth
"Was Christ's atoning death for every person even for those who are in hell?"

It atoned more powerfully for the world than the once a year animal sacrifice in the temple atoned for the just and the unjust of Israel which was it's type.

JD wrote:
"Christ did not bear the sins of all men but he bore the sins of many men!"

What? All men cannot be many men and many men cannot be all men?

JD wrote:
All men who are saved are saved the same way, by the blood of Jesus Christ. He offered himself as as a one time sacrifice for the sins of the whole world. Heb 9:26...What did he appear to do? Right!! To put away sin. Think what that means.
So, redemption is in the single act of Jesus Christ on the cross for all men.

Contend

1. To strive, or to strive against; to struggle in opposition.

2. To strive; to use earnest efforts to obtain, or to defend and preserve.

3. To dispute earnestly; to strive in debate.