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John UK...

That must be, “well” then the covenant is eternal just like God said!

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Well, it is a covenant about land!


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“And I will establish my covenant between me and you and your offspring after you throughout their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be God to you and to your offspring after you. And I will give to you and to your offspring after you the land of your sojournings, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession, and I will be their God."”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭17:7-8‬

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John UK...

Have you not read?

“The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:20‬

So there goes your theory of imputation of guilt because of Adam!

Have you not read?

“But I, brothers, could not address you as spiritual people, but as people of the flesh, as infants in Christ.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭3:1‬

There are believers who can’t discern the things of the Spirit or don’t understand the things of God, yet they still believed!

Question:

“Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:2‬

By faith and not before!

Two more things, Jesus is the propitiation for our sins and not a penal sacrifice no matter what hymn you throw at me and Abraham was unregenerate and still believed in God.


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Plain Old Tim...

I was joking.

John UK...

If I understand those verses, will I then comprehend how God is not through with Israel via the Abrahamic Covenant?


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John UK...

Yeah, I sing “My Sweet Lord” by George Harrison!

Not all of the Psalms are about Jesus Christ or the New Covenant. Just like God isn’t finished with Israel!


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John UK...

First, my original post was about your use of nonbiblical hymns to try and prove what you believe. I said nothing about the Psalms!

Secondly, I am not KJV only are you?

Thirdly, I have no problem with John Newton. Just your tendency to throw out man-made hymns to validate your beliefs when you can’t find any scriptural support.

Lastly, you miss the point of the Abrahamic Covenant if you think God is through with the nation of Israel and the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel.


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John UK...

Always twisting. First of all I believe the Psalms are called psalms because they are in fact psalms and not hymns. Secondly, even if they are hymns, they are Biblical and not in error so you can get your doctrine from them. Thirdly, I was referring to some of the hymns you have quoted recently to me as proof text for your erroneous beliefs and in particular was referring to your use of John Newton’s hymn “Glorious Things of Thee Are Spoken”.


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John UK...

Just remember, you can like a tune, but hymns don’t replace what the Bible teaches about Zion and Israel. If you believe, it is only because you were first grafted into the cultivated olive tree, so if God is through with Israel, He is through with everyone.


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Plain Old Tim...

Yes, The Big Chicken, I just passed it the other day! For those wondering, it is a KFC in the shape of a huge chicken head with rolling eyes and a moving beak.


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The marijuana candy may help my son with seizures and behavior. The oil is always difficult to give him because he fights it. It taste bad. Like with anything, people will abuse it even if there is some good to it. Eating food can be a gateway to obesity!

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You would think Jordan could give the Palestinians some land! Also, the Palestinian’s have land, the problem is they attack Israel so they have to be fenced in to protect innocent people.

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Adriel wrote:
2Cor 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad."
Those in Christ will be saved. Christians will not receive God’s wrath. Their works will be judged, not their sins.

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Did Jesus turn water to wine?

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Suffering for sin and taking on the responsibility of someone else’s sin is two different things. Jesus suffered for our sins, but He was never guilty of our sins or spent eternity in Hell because of them as He should if He were to truly be punished for them. What Jesus did was had our sins forgiven so there is no need for punishment to those who believe.

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Unprofitable Servant...

I hate when this happens but you say something like “there is no condemnation” (Romans 5:1) then when I go look at the verse, it is talking about something totally different. The problem with your theory of penal substitution is that it is unbiblical. If that is how God did things I am sure he would have said so. Instead He says:

“The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭18:20‬

That means Jesus isn’t guilty or responsible for what you have done. Now as one example look at this:

“Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭5:1‬

You act like that proves Jesus was penalized for each of our sins. How? We both agree that we are justified by faith through Jesus. Those verses you gave just don’t pertain to anything you said they would. Was I supposed to see a verse next to one of your comments like “a believers sins were punished...” and be like, okay he must be right because he quoted a verse and not actually look at the verse?!


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John UK...

Another thing, as I understand it, the penal substitutionary theory teaches that Jesus was unjustly punished in our place for sins He did not commit, to appease His wrath, so that He could then forgive you. Why not just forgive? Also, forgiveness doesn’t negate guilt! Again, if you murder someone and I am punished unjustly for it, that still doesn’t erase the fact that you are guilty.


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John UK...

You could of clarified a lot sooner. If that is what you believe than why on earth would you even feel the need to pretend Jesus suffered eternal death for you and who knows how many others? Believing that while knowing He arose again just three days later instead? It’s craziness and nonsensical, not to mention unbiblical. Maybe according to some hymns, but so what?

God’s wrath is appeased in us who believe because Christ has not sinned. When a believer is placed in Christ, they have not sinned either. It’s not that their sins need to be placed on a fall guy in Jesus Christ, but that their sins are erased. There is no need to punish sins that don’t exist in Jesus Christ. He alone is righteous and those who believe are clothed with His righteousness and not a righteousness of our own. Having Jesus burn in the lake of fire for eternity would accomplish nothing.


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John UK...

You could of clarified a lot sooner. If that is what you believe than why on earth would you even feel the need to pretend Jesus suffered eternal death for you and who knows how many others? Believing that while knowing He arose again just three days later instead? It’s craziness and nonsensical, not to mention unbiblical. Maybe according to some hymns, but so what?

God’s wrath is appeased in us who believe because Christ has not sinned. When a believer is placed in Christ, they have not sinned either. It’s not that their sins need to be placed on a fall guy in Jesus Christ, but that their sins are erased. There is no need to punish sins that don’t exist in Jesus Christ. He alone is righteous and those who believe are clothed with His righteousness and not a righteousness of our own. Having Jesus burn in the lake of fire for eternity would accomplish nothing.


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John UK...

I won’t suffer for my sins because I am clothed with the righteousness of Jesus Christ.

“After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands,

...“These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭7:9, 14‬

Now let’s look at what you want to be clothed with.

“But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭64:6‬

Your own filthy rags! If you are depending on Jesus having somehow suffered the penalty for your individual sins to save you, that still would not make you righteous. It would just mean someone else was unjustly punished for you. You would still be guilty if that was the case.

You guys need to stop getting your theology from hymns!

pennned...

God made promises to the seed of Abraham. He has not forgotten or gave up on Israel!


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Plain Old Tim...

I agree with what you say about Jesus paid the penalty for our sin in dying physically.

“And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭9:27-28‬

I didn’t even need an old fashion hymn to tell me what to believe, I found it in Scripture! Though I do like some hymns. However, that isn’t all that is meant by a penal substitutionary death. Rather, Jesus has done away with our sins by dying Himself as the perfect sacrifice. Meaning He alone was innocent of the penalty of sin and alone worthy to be resurrected from the dead as a result. So what has that got to do with us? When we are placed in Christ through baptism, we have then died with Him and will be raised with Him because of Him and not because of us having our sins penalized in Him. Haven’t you heard? Pastor Johnny is leaving!

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