Sister wrote:
I am not a card carrying feminist...you fired the first shot.
Ad hominem is always used by those who build up their straw men, when they try to divert from the issue at hand.
Proof....your many posts speak volumes.
You don't seek fellowship...only a forum to rant about how wrong everyone and everything is, and only you have all the answers......

Sister wrote:
Card carrying feminist? That's a hoot sonny.
I am an old married lady who has been a keeper at home and raised children and grandchildren, all my married life.
You need to wash out your mean spirited mouth!
Repent therefore of this wickedness.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
Strat, the big joke was "the compassionate conservative," that babyface Bush pushed when he first ran for President. People kept laughing at him so hard that he finally stopped saying it. Something like the [URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffett_Rule]]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffett_Rule[/URL] has to be implemented, we know for certain a Republican controlled government won't do it.

Sister from a e wrote:
Strat also needs to repent of his slanderous posts of some of the sisters here on the forum. He comes across as a spurned man who some gal took to the cleaners, and his venom comes out at some of the ladies who post here.

John UK wrote:
Well if you have no scriptural examples of your form of philosophy, then it may be important for me to share with you the gospel of Jesus Christ, which thing IS biblical, and bring some form of benefit to you by way of the salvation of your soul.
For example, I've never heard you say anything about salvation through Jesus Christ, or how wonderful the gospel is. You never speak of the Holy Ghost or God the Father in endearing terms. Your whole life is taken up with being negative and calling Christians here "liberals". Something wrong, Strat, and I am concerned for you.

I will try to find scriptural examples of do nothing pew warmers to if I can

Now you are just lying,i have spoken of God,the gospel and salvation many times,endearing terms ? my own terms John in my own way because I am accountable to God and not you...repent of your lies John.

John UK wrote:
Politics affects my life, sure, but I have no involvement nor interest in it. If you think I ought to, please show me scripture which teaches that. I am not the one living by philosophy but by the word of God, and thus far you're more than a bit hesitant to put anything forth from what God says.
From the scriptural angle, I am exhorted to pray for those in authority, which I am quite content to do. But it is not up to me to set the laws of the land.

John UK wrote:
Strat, I am looking for scriptural examples for political activism. What's up, can't find one?

Americans under our form of government are given the responsibility to influence government in many ways and when the people believed in God and righteousness our government and laws be they less than perfect made an attempt and preserving Godliness and we were blessed for it.

Other than posting flowery words on the internet and criticisng anyone who doesn't what is your philosophy ?

John UK wrote:
But you have no scripture to support your philosophy.

The Jews are defending themselves against their enemies just as you would want America to do if you had to live under the same circumstances....they will continue to do so and there is nothing any of you can do about it.

John UK wrote:
It would be great if you realised that God loves us Christians as well as the unregenerate and ungodly Jews.

John UK wrote:
What do you mean, "speak against it"?
Do you expect me to waste my time filling out the online forms which our guv puts out for those who disagree with guv policy? Or collect signatures from thousands of people, going door-to-door to gain some political support against the guv?
What I'd like to see is some new covenant examples from the new testament which address this political involvement. I've honestly never come across any, so I would appreciate it, being shown from God's word, and thus from God himself.
But then, spiritual soldiers are to not get involved in such things, which is why the nonconformist dissenters in England made it a point of their confessions that church and state were to be separate.
Or do you hold to the Calvin Presbies, who were very much involved in the state and state laws?

John UK wrote:
Strat wrote: "Abortion is not the murder of children,its a "political" issue and therefore not a concern for the heavenly minded,same with sexual perversion,crime,corruption,blasphemy,etc,etc,ect.....God just doesn't care about that stuff....he's not interested in "politics" either I guess."
Well, there was me thinking that God was the author of all things, in accordance with either his active or his passive will. Maybe he's not as Almighty as I imagined. Maybe he's a little god who was made by puny men to put on their shelf.
Tell you what, Strat, you put forward something to edify me, what exactly is it that you want me to do about, for example, the abortion laws of the UK? Please base your answer on some scripture, as I am a sola scriptura man, and a whole-Bible man. Thank you.

John UK wrote:
Now you're talking like the Calvin Presbyterians, who wanted to bring in a church/state, where righteousness was enforced by law.
Can't find any biblical support for it.

Augustino De Hipo wrote:
What I am saying is if Jewish immigration can come in to Palestine and force the local Palestinian off his land which he and his family have occupied for multi-generations, then it should be nothing as far as effort is concerned to move Jews off their land that they took from the Palestinian and move some where else in the world for the sake of peace. Why would you steal some ones land and not expect them to want to defend it. Christians are to be peace-makers--not republican neo-cons who support war. This war is about Israel taking Palestinian land on which are heavy natural gas fields--war through economics. May the Peace of Christ be upon you--Shalom!

The one dimension,one sided Jesus you mention is well known here,he gives everyone a pass on everything they do,all dogs go to heaven,all is ok,all is allowed and excused.

We also have folks who are just as good as you are at collecting nice pleasant words as a solution to the pain and misery that abounds because of our one dimensional one sided "Jesus"

The Jesus of the bible said I have come to fulfill the law and not one word of it will be removed,the "Jesus" we have says righteousness and a changed heart doesn't matter because I came to make the rest of the bible with its harsh words and penalties for sin null and void.....yes,we here in America know the "Jesus" you speak of.

John UK wrote:
What with SteveR pronouncing his anathemas, and Strat branding all of us Christians liberal, there's never a dull moment here in the Smoking Room of SermonAudio, where we can all lay back in our armchairs and discuss the affairs of the world in perfect peace and serenity, smoking our pipes and spreading the daily papers out, occasionally grumbling and being negative, thus annoying the man in the next armchair.
Anyone out there doing anything?