Obviously there are "acceptable lifestyles" and "inacceptable lifestyles".
To be a practising homosexual is the former, to be a practising christian is the latter.
"Yer pays yer money anÂ´ yer takes yer choice."
"Rejoice, O young man, in thy youth; and let thy heart cheer thee in the days of thy youth, and walk in the ways of thine heart, and in the sight of thine eyes: but know thou, that for all these things God will bring thee into judgment." (Ecclesiastes 11;9)
Alastair Roberts wrote: I strongly recommend that those rushing to criticize the archbishop would take the time to read this first: http://goringe.net/theology/?p=120. I don't agree with much that the archbishop says, but his carefully nuanced arguments and calm erudition is far more appealing than the frenzied yapping of his critics, who seem incapable of digesting an argument more complex than a soundbite.
I have read - and digested - the above argument and - No, I do not agree.
A transgressor of sharia law would only have regress under british law if it were proved that the subject did not assent "voluntarily" to the rulings of sharia - and how and who is to prove that ?
Sharia is a dictatorial and un-christian system which should not be tolerated in british society.
It should certainly nozt be advocated by a senior member - (the most senior member ?) - of the Established -Christian - Church.
Lance Eccles wrote: You seem to have misunderstood what I said, GK. What you write above is the heretical Montanist view, not the RC view. And Lyn, "So where in scripture would I find this?" I have no idea. It is in the Tradition of the Catholic Church. If you think you can find everything you need for salvation by reading the Bible and attempting to understand it, then I wish you good luck (and God's help too, for that matter).
Certainly the RC clergy - whether in a "State of Grace" or not - pretend either to forgive sins or to retain them.
They can do neither one nor the other.
Reliance on "Tradition" is expressly prohibited in four books of the Bible : - Deuteronomy 4;2, 13;32, Proverbs 30;5-6, I Corinthians 4;6, Revelations 22;18-19.
Thank you for your good wishes.
"And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, Today shalt thou be with me in paradise." (Luke 23;42-43)
What else can you expect in a country where the ruling medical body - The General Medical Council-UK - orders doctors to perform abortions on schoolgirls, - with or without parental consent - or to arrange for these abortions to be carried out by a "suitably qualified colleague" ?
The penalty for non-compliance with these directives is that of being prosecuted and "struck off the register".
See the opening explanations and specifically Â§Â§ 70 and 72 on : -
Lance Eccles wrote: I'm not unfamiliar with Mike Gendron. His message will indeed influence the eternal fate of those Catholics who heed it. As I recall from reading his own testimony some time back, when he was a Catholic he grew tired of repenting of his sins (always the same ones, apparently), and went in search of a religion that promised salvation without repentance.
Another "suggestio falsi" Lance Eccles.
The only (christian) "religion" that offers salvation without repentance is the heresy termed "Pelagianism".
Both "Arminians" and "Calvinists" do not believe any such nonsense.
If Mike Gendron ios a pelagian then, ipso facto,he is not a "christian".
GG wrote: "I wonder who GG thinks the civil authorities were at the time?" MyResp: Have you ever heard the words King or Holy Roman Emperor, Mayor, Bergermeister, Judge, Prime Minister, Sheriff, etc. You did know that there were civil courts that enforced civil law...Hello...Hello...Hello.
any of the above who refused to carry out the "ecclesiatical court sentences of the RCC" were promptly accused of the same offence - heresy - and/or as promptly excommunicated.
Words from the books of the so-called Apocrypha are never cited in the New Testament. Words from the books of the jewish canon are cited extensively.
II Machabees ends with the words : -
"Here, then, I will make an end of writing; if it has been done workmanly and in historianÂ´s fashion, none better pleased than I; if it is of little merit, I must be humoured none the less" (II Machabees 15;38 - Knox translation).
Compare this with the "Thus saith the Lord" of the inspired jewish canon.
Furthermore the jesuit university chaplain who "instructed me in the Faith" admitted that the need for the Apocrypha only arose at the time of the counter reformation, whereupon the Council of Trent pronounced them to be canonical.
And Lance, no thank ou, like Mike I shall certainly never return to that perfect - man-made and iniquitous -ystem.
GG wrote: What is also sad are people who claim to love the word of God but drop 7 books of it because it doesn't agree with their prejudices. People who also won't read a Science book, because we all know that all knowledge is contained within the bible.
Nobody has ever dropped 7 books out of the Bible - the books in question were never in it.
The pope needed them to back his theory of purgatory so they were declared - in the teeth of the evidence - to be canonical.
Saying that Bible believers `wonÂ´t read a Science book` is just not true - as shown hundertfold in the History of Science.
Accordingly the rest of your letter is just plain nonsense and not worth any discussion.
Lance Eccles wrote: The pope isn't a follower of the theology of John Calvin.
....... nor of Augustine of Hippo, of Peter, of Paul, nor - the more shame to his profession - is he a follower of the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.
"Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door,I will come into him, and will sup with him, and he with me." (Rev. 3;20) can only bear the meaning "individualistic and aimed at each person singly".
The allusion to Calvin is just another red herring to serve as a distraction from JohnÂ´s point.
Reformed Song Writer wrote: R. K. Borill and fellow Calvinists Your song of praise-- My hope is built on nothing less Than all my sin and helplessness I cannot do a single thing To serve the Lord or praise the King. I will just sit here like a mop Waiting for God to make me flop Or God may move me from my pew Like a dried out leaf the wind blew. My God has all the pieces placed His will shall move them by his grace He plays both sides to please himself Throws all the captured pawns in Hell. My God is strong, he's sovereign too There's nothing you or I can do He's pulling all the strings, you see Even Hitler's and Ted Bundy
The lives of - for example - Pink, Lloyd Jones, Whitefield, Brainerd, Calvin, Knox, Latimer, Augustine of Hippo, Paul of Tarsus and Isaiah the son of Amoz show no trace of being determined by the sentiments of your "song of praise".
Calvinists, all of them, so do you not think you could be mistaken?